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RE: E80CC vintages

Hi,

I think you have it right. There is also a D getter Tungsram that I just missed buying. I think there are only two types and then the variations on those (d getters, pinched waist). There are the solid plate (I think these are all Philips with various labels) and the two holed plates that are Tungsram labeled many different things. The Tungsram are the most balanced and the one to use if your systems sound is well balanced and you are not trying to move it in a different direction. The Tungsram leans a hair toward bright not enough to be a problem it is an excellent tube. The solid plate tubes are much slower, warmer, with less speed and detail (they can be wonderful if your systems balance is bright). The exact same tube with a D getter is even slower, thicker and lusher. This is the tube that taught me that different getters with the exact same internal structure sound different.
You need a real aggressive tube in front of this to strike a good balance and when you do it is phenomenal. The pinched waist variety (I have only seen this in the solid plate Philips tube not the Tungsram yet)
is somewhere between the Tungsram and Philips O getter. To me it sounds a bit disjointed though. It is hard to put my finger on it but something sounds skewed. Bottom line, this family beats the very best and priciest 12AU7, 6189, 5963, 5814 and by a wide margin. I have read some posters claim that Siemens also made this tube but they look and sound just like the Philips to me.

Bart


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