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In Reply to: RE: Magico Speakers posted by villastrangiato on June 13, 2012 at 09:33:03:
No studying of basic physics necessary. The only advantage of ported design is more of badly sounding bass. Yes, I understand it is a neccesity in cheap designs where every driver counts and more bass from less drivers is a good thing. It is a very primitive sounding bass and should not have a place in high end designs but since people seem to love small boommers pumping lot of air trough the vents thats what they get (and a support of science) As to TL speakers the ones I heard either sounded like ported boxes or BLH (Back loaded horns)i.e equally bad. No hard feelings really . Everybody has their preferences but I know I'm right and you're wrong :) I go to concert halls and than I go to audio shows and I'm forced to listen to this tight assed brum, brum farting allien bass machines and I say no thank You!.I may be a villager but I'm trying to avoid being plebeian.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 01:31:48 06/11/12 (200)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Inmate51 14:37:36 12/1/15 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - ohrbrcko@yahoo.com 05:45:08 12/16/15 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Inmate51 07:51:14 12/16/15 (0)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - Jon L5 17:57:39 06/16/12 (19)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 00:21:46 06/18/12 (11)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - Jon L5 14:44:17 06/18/12 (10)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 05:38:35 06/19/12 (9)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 06:08:52 06/19/12 (8)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 03:01:07 06/20/12 (7)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 04:39:30 06/20/12 (6)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 08:32:23 06/20/12 (5)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 16:16:00 06/20/12 (3)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 04:20:53 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 04:06:51 06/21/12 (1)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 04:34:26 06/21/12 (0)
- He builds amplifiers for 30 years.... none as nice sounding as Crown, apparently. - carcass93 11:58:40 06/20/12 (0)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - genungo 03:56:51 06/17/12 (6)
- RE: super high prices and unusual techniques don't mean perfectionism - Jon L5 20:14:18 06/19/12 (5)
- RE; "I don't know." - genungo 02:13:44 06/20/12 (4)
- RE: RE; "I don't know." - ornery 19:50:03 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: nor do we know if they're any closer to perfection than other techniques - Jon L5 04:35:29 06/20/12 (2)
- "Super refined"... - genungo 05:39:21 06/20/12 (1)
- RE: "Super refined"... - ornery 19:52:31 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bill the K 20:39:10 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 22:59:50 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bill the K 10:43:40 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - sudz1234@yahoo.com 22:57:23 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 18:35:41 06/15/12 (0)
- Good Post Dis' - Des 22:29:44 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - SgreenP@MSN.com 05:37:50 06/14/12 (0)
- If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 01:48:15 06/14/12 (64)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 06:15:39 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:26:30 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:06:18 06/14/12 (2)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 05:15:38 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:37:47 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 01:54:36 06/14/12 (58)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - RGA 20:38:01 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:15:32 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 05:02:36 06/14/12 (55)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 06:32:20 06/14/12 (54)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 08:25:54 06/14/12 (53)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 09:09:46 06/14/12 (52)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 09:25:49 06/14/12 (51)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:38:43 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 09:38:43 06/14/12 (49)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 10:00:21 06/14/12 (23)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 10:25:20 06/14/12 (22)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:52:12 06/14/12 (21)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 01:50:18 06/15/12 (20)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 05:24:27 06/15/12 (19)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:42:36 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - villastrangiato 09:27:45 06/15/12 (8)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:08:22 06/15/12 (7)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - jasonpatrickbrowne 11:25:03 11/12/15 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - villastrangiato 14:53:40 06/15/12 (5)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 00:57:04 06/18/12 (4)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - villastrangiato 05:50:10 06/18/12 (3)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 07:05:04 06/18/12 (2)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 23:49:36 06/20/12 (1)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 06:36:36 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 05:37:31 06/15/12 (8)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 08:50:22 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 06:27:50 06/15/12 (6)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 08:45:08 06/15/12 (5)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:11:49 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 00:58:50 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:48:09 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 08:52:49 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 09:45:09 06/15/12 (0)
- And your vast experience tells you that one approach in building speakers (TL) is vastly superior to others? - carcass93 09:56:04 06/14/12 (24)
- RE: And your vast experience tells you that one approach in building speakers (TL) is vastly superior to others? - villastrangiato 10:15:14 06/14/12 (23)
- RE: And your vast experience tells you that one approach in building speakers (TL) is vastly superior to others? - Don Reid 14:46:36 12/6/15 (0)
- This post brought to you by a Crown amp user...... - Ozzy 01:49:06 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: This post brought to you by a Crown amp user...... - morricab 05:26:23 06/15/12 (1)
- I hope you did that virtually, without wasting paper and ink to print it out. - carcass93 09:10:34 06/15/12 (0)
- Yeah, I kind of got an idea about yor preferences/belief system from your earlier posts.... - carcass93 13:56:28 06/14/12 (18)
- RE: Yeah, I kind of got an idea about yor preferences/belief system from your earlier posts.... - villastrangiato 14:37:45 06/14/12 (17)
- To make it more accessible for you... - carcass93 15:02:28 06/14/12 (16)
- Crown Amplifiers - Inmate51 18:59:27 06/20/12 (1)
- If you need an assertion "Crown amps are PIECE OF CRAP" validated,... - carcass93 13:38:02 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: To make it more accessible for you... - villastrangiato 15:40:18 06/14/12 (13)
- Actually.... - Sordidman 17:14:33 06/14/12 (12)
- RE: Actually.... - villastrangiato 17:44:18 06/14/12 (11)
- Your first statement is your downfall & is absurdly wrong - Sordidman 09:48:29 06/15/12 (6)
- Continuing with the metaphor - OP in this thread... - carcass93 11:22:50 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Your first statement is your downfall & is absurdly wrong - villastrangiato 10:11:52 06/15/12 (2)
- I do not like the sound of the speakers: They are from Oakland - Sordidman 11:36:53 06/15/12 (0)
- You're so far from home... HydrogenAudio.org I mean. - carcass93 11:15:23 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Your first statement is your downfall & is absurdly wrong - villastrangiato 09:55:23 06/15/12 (1)
- "dealers like you" there you go again, wrong assumptions - Sordidman 14:13:10 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Actually.... - morricab 06:33:23 06/15/12 (3)
- RE: Actually.... - villastrangiato 09:18:07 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: Actually.... - morricab 14:24:05 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Actually.... - Sordidman 09:51:36 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 18:40:25 06/13/12 (0)
- Some people take offense at high prices - Bromo33333 14:32:43 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 23:18:21 06/12/12 (18)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:50:48 06/12/12 (17)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 00:24:46 06/13/12 (16)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 09:33:03 06/13/12 (14)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 06/13/1215:54:07 06/13/12 (13)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:26:05 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 16:11:12 06/13/12 (11)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 16:29:21 06/13/12 (10)
- RE: Magico Speakers - morricab 01:27:47 06/14/12 (9)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 06:04:48 06/14/12 (8)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 10:32:19 06/14/12 (7)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 13:04:38 06/14/12 (6)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 13:37:39 06/14/12 (5)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:20:11 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 14:29:42 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:54:18 06/14/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 23:42:19 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 00:38:16 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 04:55:19 06/13/12 (0)
- They're very nice - badman 08:45:01 06/12/12 (11)
- RE: They're very nice - middleground 10:19:18 06/12/12 (5)
- Price makes them unattainable for me or you - but do you... - carcass93 10:45:54 06/12/12 (4)
- RE: Price makes them unattainable for me or you - but do you... - middleground 18:00:55 06/12/12 (2)
- You can certainly choose pretending to not understand - doesn't change a thing. - carcass93 05:42:20 06/13/12 (1)
- RE: You can certainly choose pretending to not understand - doesn't change a thing. - middleground 07:36:31 06/13/12 (0)
- As long as we're wondering... - JackOfSpades 15:18:22 06/12/12 (0)
- RE:Well, the reviewers are part of the problem... - Eldragon@gmx.com 08:56:29 06/12/12 (4)
- "they aren't willing to state ..." - that's because it's rather rare occasion, ... - carcass93 10:34:53 06/12/12 (0)
- There is never a "better" - Sordidman 09:42:18 06/12/12 (2)
- RE: There is never a "better" - middleground 10:20:32 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: There is never a "better" - Sordidman 10:56:43 06/12/12 (0)
- It's become like the movie "Breaking Away." - Enophile 08:27:27 06/12/12 (4)
- It's called "refinement" - genungo 12:58:46 06/16/12 (0)
- Is that really accurate though? - JoshT 22:55:35 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Is that really accurate though? - middleground 07:37:50 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: It's become like the movie "Breaking Away." - middleground 10:21:17 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 08:10:21 06/12/12 (4)
- RE: Magico Speakers - morricab 01:40:04 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 08:55:04 06/12/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 10:49:02 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 11:44:18 06/12/12 (0)
- Rality is two different sets of rules apply: rich, and NOT rich - Elizabeth 04:54:34 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Rality is two different sets of rules apply: rich, and NOT rich - Disbeliever 06:20:12 06/12/12 (0)
- F 1 cars cost more than a Mazda - Ole Lund Christensen 14:06:01 06/11/12 (1)
- What is your "daily drive" .... speakerwise ? - Pinkus 08:28:34 06/14/12 (0)
- Out of curiosity, what exactly is the price point or figure you have in mind... - musetap 11:25:51 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 10:31:55 06/11/12 (7)
- ""The laws of physics have been abolished in subjective audio"" - Sordidman 11:36:10 06/11/12 (6)
- Arguing with a fool..... - Ozzy 03:57:25 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: I see, you know how to argue...(nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 07:35:14 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: ""The laws of physics have been abolished in subjective audio"" - middleground 15:33:53 06/11/12 (3)
- Ah yes - E-Stat 15:13:10 06/13/12 (2)
- RE: Ah yes - middleground 18:30:13 06/13/12 (1)
- The search tool is yours - E-Stat 18:36:11 06/13/12 (0)
- You probably would know if you listened instead of assumed -t - Sordidman 09:17:46 06/11/12 (2)
- RE: You probably would know if you listened instead of assumed -t - Disbeliever 23:50:46 06/11/12 (1)
- I agree with you about the Magico - Sordidman 08:50:39 06/12/12 (0)
- They may be overengineered, or maybe not, and are not a value... - jonbee 06:41:08 06/11/12 (4)
- RE: They may be overengineered, or maybe not, and are not a value... - middleground 10:34:53 06/11/12 (1)
- He is also incredibly knowledgeable and experienced - Sordidman 12:54:41 06/11/12 (0)
- Agree -- - Des 07:08:17 06/11/12 (1)
- RE: Agree -- - Ozzie 14:49:31 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Ozzy 04:28:16 06/11/12 (40)
- Need to refine that a bit, methinks - Jim Austin 13:55:15 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 10:36:08 06/11/12 (18)
- Look at it from slightly different angle: if you're not willing to pay,... - carcass93 08:39:37 06/12/12 (8)
- RE: Wow, how profound! - Eldragon@gmx.com 08:52:21 06/12/12 (7)
- That's called "experience". - carcass93 09:23:56 06/12/12 (6)
- RE: I call it "pretentiousness" ... - Eldragon@gmx.com 09:27:11 06/12/12 (5)
- Can't argue with a man who possesses AIWA 5-disk changer. Another giant killer, right? - carcass93 10:40:43 06/12/12 (3)
- Can't argue with a man whose possessed right? nt - Kloss 15:41:40 06/13/12 (0)
- I understood the general goal... - mls-stl 13:16:36 06/12/12 (0)
- You failed to notice DPA pdm 1024 DAC... - Eldragon@gmx.com 10:49:03 06/12/12 (0)
- It's called unreasonable intolerance -t - Sordidman 09:42:48 06/12/12 (0)
- You should......MIDdle Fi - Ozzy 16:09:20 06/11/12 (8)
- RE: You should......MIDdle Fi - middleground 10:23:35 06/12/12 (7)
- Experienced researchers are rarely gullible - Sordidman 15:06:35 06/12/12 (6)
- RE: Experienced researchers are rarely gullible - middleground 18:05:35 06/12/12 (5)
- Him being (or not) a guru is not the issue here. - carcass93 10:08:03 06/13/12 (0)
- me too - Sordidman 08:56:46 06/13/12 (3)
- RE: me too - middleground 18:32:02 06/13/12 (2)
- All good...... - Sordidman 12:11:03 06/14/12 (0)
- Uhh... we call it "spelling errors". - carcass93 07:51:15 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - ecl876 06:32:34 06/11/12 (19)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Broadcast Storm 13:11:53 11/24/15 (18)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 06:40:00 11/28/15 (17)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Broadcast Storm 12:34:50 11/28/15 (15)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 17:29:13 11/28/15 (13)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 17:39:43 11/28/15 (12)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Broadcast Storm 03:38:23 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 19:17:02 11/28/15 (10)
- MAGICO - Broadcast Storm 03:55:02 11/29/15 (6)
- RE: MAGICO - Broadcast Storm 14:48:35 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: MAGICO - Bodhi 06:04:37 11/29/15 (4)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - A.Wayne 07:39:18 11/29/15 (3)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - Bodhi 13:43:41 11/29/15 (2)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - A.Wayne 16:17:42 11/29/15 (1)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - Bodhi 17:15:45 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 19:37:34 11/28/15 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 20:20:50 11/28/15 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers and the yellow brick road - A.Wayne 01:31:15 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 16:58:11 11/28/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 06:54:34 11/28/15 (0)
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- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 06/13/1215:54:07 06/13/12 (13)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:26:05 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 16:11:12 06/13/12 (11)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 16:29:21 06/13/12 (10)
- RE: Magico Speakers - morricab 01:27:47 06/14/12 (9)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 06:04:48 06/14/12 (8)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 10:32:19 06/14/12 (7)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 13:04:38 06/14/12 (6)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 13:37:39 06/14/12 (5)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:20:11 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 14:29:42 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:54:18 06/14/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 23:42:19 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 00:38:16 06/15/12 (0)