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In Reply to: Magico Speakers posted by Disbeliever on June 11, 2012 at 01:31:48:
If I remember correctly Alon Wolf said they price them too low and are not making much money, which after analizing the cost can be quite true.I did not hear them so I'm not going to argue if all the costs related to production of the speaker translate on the sound but honestly most people pay more attention to veneer and appearence and what the stereophile wrote about the product than to sound anyway (just try to resell scrathed box to audiogon hoodlums not to mention disastrous prospects if you smoke , have kids and pets ;)
All those threads are silly because they question the basics of capitalism which actually enables disbelievers " to be fortunate enough to buy any audio product in the market" Rgrds, W
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 01:31:48 06/11/12 (200)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Inmate51 14:37:36 12/1/15 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - ohrbrcko@yahoo.com 05:45:08 12/16/15 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Inmate51 07:51:14 12/16/15 (0)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - Jon L5 17:57:39 06/16/12 (19)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 00:21:46 06/18/12 (11)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - Jon L5 14:44:17 06/18/12 (10)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 05:38:35 06/19/12 (9)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 06:08:52 06/19/12 (8)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 03:01:07 06/20/12 (7)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 04:39:30 06/20/12 (6)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 08:32:23 06/20/12 (5)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 16:16:00 06/20/12 (3)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 04:20:53 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - morricab 04:06:51 06/21/12 (1)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - villastrangiato 04:34:26 06/21/12 (0)
- He builds amplifiers for 30 years.... none as nice sounding as Crown, apparently. - carcass93 11:58:40 06/20/12 (0)
- RE: exclusivity is the whole point - genungo 03:56:51 06/17/12 (6)
- RE: super high prices and unusual techniques don't mean perfectionism - Jon L5 20:14:18 06/19/12 (5)
- RE; "I don't know." - genungo 02:13:44 06/20/12 (4)
- RE: RE; "I don't know." - ornery 19:50:03 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: nor do we know if they're any closer to perfection than other techniques - Jon L5 04:35:29 06/20/12 (2)
- "Super refined"... - genungo 05:39:21 06/20/12 (1)
- RE: "Super refined"... - ornery 19:52:31 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bill the K 20:39:10 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 22:59:50 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bill the K 10:43:40 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - sudz1234@yahoo.com 22:57:23 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 18:35:41 06/15/12 (0)
- Good Post Dis' - Des 22:29:44 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - SgreenP@MSN.com 05:37:50 06/14/12 (0)
- If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 01:48:15 06/14/12 (64)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 06:15:39 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:26:30 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:06:18 06/14/12 (2)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 05:15:38 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:37:47 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 01:54:36 06/14/12 (58)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - RGA 20:38:01 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:15:32 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 05:02:36 06/14/12 (55)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 06:32:20 06/14/12 (54)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 08:25:54 06/14/12 (53)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 09:09:46 06/14/12 (52)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 09:25:49 06/14/12 (51)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:38:43 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 09:38:43 06/14/12 (49)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 10:00:21 06/14/12 (23)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 10:25:20 06/14/12 (22)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:52:12 06/14/12 (21)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 01:50:18 06/15/12 (20)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 05:24:27 06/15/12 (19)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:42:36 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - villastrangiato 09:27:45 06/15/12 (8)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:08:22 06/15/12 (7)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - jasonpatrickbrowne 11:25:03 11/12/15 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - villastrangiato 14:53:40 06/15/12 (5)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 00:57:04 06/18/12 (4)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - villastrangiato 05:50:10 06/18/12 (3)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 07:05:04 06/18/12 (2)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 23:49:36 06/20/12 (1)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 06:36:36 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 05:37:31 06/15/12 (8)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 08:50:22 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 06:27:50 06/15/12 (6)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 08:45:08 06/15/12 (5)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 14:11:49 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - morricab 00:58:50 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - middleground 18:48:09 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Ozzy 08:52:49 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: If you are underwhelmed by Magico speakers - Disbeliever 09:45:09 06/15/12 (0)
- And your vast experience tells you that one approach in building speakers (TL) is vastly superior to others? - carcass93 09:56:04 06/14/12 (24)
- RE: And your vast experience tells you that one approach in building speakers (TL) is vastly superior to others? - villastrangiato 10:15:14 06/14/12 (23)
- RE: And your vast experience tells you that one approach in building speakers (TL) is vastly superior to others? - Don Reid 14:46:36 12/6/15 (0)
- This post brought to you by a Crown amp user...... - Ozzy 01:49:06 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: This post brought to you by a Crown amp user...... - morricab 05:26:23 06/15/12 (1)
- I hope you did that virtually, without wasting paper and ink to print it out. - carcass93 09:10:34 06/15/12 (0)
- Yeah, I kind of got an idea about yor preferences/belief system from your earlier posts.... - carcass93 13:56:28 06/14/12 (18)
- RE: Yeah, I kind of got an idea about yor preferences/belief system from your earlier posts.... - villastrangiato 14:37:45 06/14/12 (17)
- To make it more accessible for you... - carcass93 15:02:28 06/14/12 (16)
- Crown Amplifiers - Inmate51 18:59:27 06/20/12 (1)
- If you need an assertion "Crown amps are PIECE OF CRAP" validated,... - carcass93 13:38:02 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: To make it more accessible for you... - villastrangiato 15:40:18 06/14/12 (13)
- Actually.... - Sordidman 17:14:33 06/14/12 (12)
- RE: Actually.... - villastrangiato 17:44:18 06/14/12 (11)
- Your first statement is your downfall & is absurdly wrong - Sordidman 09:48:29 06/15/12 (6)
- Continuing with the metaphor - OP in this thread... - carcass93 11:22:50 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Your first statement is your downfall & is absurdly wrong - villastrangiato 10:11:52 06/15/12 (2)
- I do not like the sound of the speakers: They are from Oakland - Sordidman 11:36:53 06/15/12 (0)
- You're so far from home... HydrogenAudio.org I mean. - carcass93 11:15:23 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Your first statement is your downfall & is absurdly wrong - villastrangiato 09:55:23 06/15/12 (1)
- "dealers like you" there you go again, wrong assumptions - Sordidman 14:13:10 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Actually.... - morricab 06:33:23 06/15/12 (3)
- RE: Actually.... - villastrangiato 09:18:07 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: Actually.... - morricab 14:24:05 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Actually.... - Sordidman 09:51:36 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 18:40:25 06/13/12 (0)
- Some people take offense at high prices - Bromo33333 14:32:43 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 06/12/1223:18:21 06/12/12 (18)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:50:48 06/12/12 (17)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 00:24:46 06/13/12 (16)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 09:33:03 06/13/12 (14)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 15:54:07 06/13/12 (13)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:26:05 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 16:11:12 06/13/12 (11)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 16:29:21 06/13/12 (10)
- RE: Magico Speakers - morricab 01:27:47 06/14/12 (9)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 06:04:48 06/14/12 (8)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 10:32:19 06/14/12 (7)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 13:04:38 06/14/12 (6)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 13:37:39 06/14/12 (5)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:20:11 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 14:29:42 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:54:18 06/14/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 23:42:19 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 00:38:16 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 04:55:19 06/13/12 (0)
- They're very nice - badman 08:45:01 06/12/12 (11)
- RE: They're very nice - middleground 10:19:18 06/12/12 (5)
- Price makes them unattainable for me or you - but do you... - carcass93 10:45:54 06/12/12 (4)
- RE: Price makes them unattainable for me or you - but do you... - middleground 18:00:55 06/12/12 (2)
- You can certainly choose pretending to not understand - doesn't change a thing. - carcass93 05:42:20 06/13/12 (1)
- RE: You can certainly choose pretending to not understand - doesn't change a thing. - middleground 07:36:31 06/13/12 (0)
- As long as we're wondering... - JackOfSpades 15:18:22 06/12/12 (0)
- RE:Well, the reviewers are part of the problem... - Eldragon@gmx.com 08:56:29 06/12/12 (4)
- "they aren't willing to state ..." - that's because it's rather rare occasion, ... - carcass93 10:34:53 06/12/12 (0)
- There is never a "better" - Sordidman 09:42:18 06/12/12 (2)
- RE: There is never a "better" - middleground 10:20:32 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: There is never a "better" - Sordidman 10:56:43 06/12/12 (0)
- It's become like the movie "Breaking Away." - Enophile 08:27:27 06/12/12 (4)
- It's called "refinement" - genungo 12:58:46 06/16/12 (0)
- Is that really accurate though? - JoshT 22:55:35 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Is that really accurate though? - middleground 07:37:50 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: It's become like the movie "Breaking Away." - middleground 10:21:17 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 08:10:21 06/12/12 (4)
- RE: Magico Speakers - morricab 01:40:04 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 08:55:04 06/12/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 10:49:02 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 11:44:18 06/12/12 (0)
- Rality is two different sets of rules apply: rich, and NOT rich - Elizabeth 04:54:34 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Rality is two different sets of rules apply: rich, and NOT rich - Disbeliever 06:20:12 06/12/12 (0)
- F 1 cars cost more than a Mazda - Ole Lund Christensen 14:06:01 06/11/12 (1)
- What is your "daily drive" .... speakerwise ? - Pinkus 08:28:34 06/14/12 (0)
- Out of curiosity, what exactly is the price point or figure you have in mind... - musetap 11:25:51 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 10:31:55 06/11/12 (7)
- ""The laws of physics have been abolished in subjective audio"" - Sordidman 11:36:10 06/11/12 (6)
- Arguing with a fool..... - Ozzy 03:57:25 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: I see, you know how to argue...(nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 07:35:14 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: ""The laws of physics have been abolished in subjective audio"" - middleground 15:33:53 06/11/12 (3)
- Ah yes - E-Stat 15:13:10 06/13/12 (2)
- RE: Ah yes - middleground 18:30:13 06/13/12 (1)
- The search tool is yours - E-Stat 18:36:11 06/13/12 (0)
- You probably would know if you listened instead of assumed -t - Sordidman 09:17:46 06/11/12 (2)
- RE: You probably would know if you listened instead of assumed -t - Disbeliever 23:50:46 06/11/12 (1)
- I agree with you about the Magico - Sordidman 08:50:39 06/12/12 (0)
- They may be overengineered, or maybe not, and are not a value... - jonbee 06:41:08 06/11/12 (4)
- RE: They may be overengineered, or maybe not, and are not a value... - middleground 10:34:53 06/11/12 (1)
- He is also incredibly knowledgeable and experienced - Sordidman 12:54:41 06/11/12 (0)
- Agree -- - Des 07:08:17 06/11/12 (1)
- RE: Agree -- - Ozzie 14:49:31 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Ozzy 04:28:16 06/11/12 (40)
- Need to refine that a bit, methinks - Jim Austin 13:55:15 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - middleground 10:36:08 06/11/12 (18)
- Look at it from slightly different angle: if you're not willing to pay,... - carcass93 08:39:37 06/12/12 (8)
- RE: Wow, how profound! - Eldragon@gmx.com 08:52:21 06/12/12 (7)
- That's called "experience". - carcass93 09:23:56 06/12/12 (6)
- RE: I call it "pretentiousness" ... - Eldragon@gmx.com 09:27:11 06/12/12 (5)
- Can't argue with a man who possesses AIWA 5-disk changer. Another giant killer, right? - carcass93 10:40:43 06/12/12 (3)
- Can't argue with a man whose possessed right? nt - Kloss 15:41:40 06/13/12 (0)
- I understood the general goal... - mls-stl 13:16:36 06/12/12 (0)
- You failed to notice DPA pdm 1024 DAC... - Eldragon@gmx.com 10:49:03 06/12/12 (0)
- It's called unreasonable intolerance -t - Sordidman 09:42:48 06/12/12 (0)
- You should......MIDdle Fi - Ozzy 16:09:20 06/11/12 (8)
- RE: You should......MIDdle Fi - middleground 10:23:35 06/12/12 (7)
- Experienced researchers are rarely gullible - Sordidman 15:06:35 06/12/12 (6)
- RE: Experienced researchers are rarely gullible - middleground 18:05:35 06/12/12 (5)
- Him being (or not) a guru is not the issue here. - carcass93 10:08:03 06/13/12 (0)
- me too - Sordidman 08:56:46 06/13/12 (3)
- RE: me too - middleground 18:32:02 06/13/12 (2)
- All good...... - Sordidman 12:11:03 06/14/12 (0)
- Uhh... we call it "spelling errors". - carcass93 07:51:15 06/14/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - ecl876 06:32:34 06/11/12 (19)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Broadcast Storm 13:11:53 11/24/15 (18)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 06:40:00 11/28/15 (17)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Broadcast Storm 12:34:50 11/28/15 (15)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 17:29:13 11/28/15 (13)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 17:39:43 11/28/15 (12)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Broadcast Storm 03:38:23 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 19:17:02 11/28/15 (10)
- MAGICO - Broadcast Storm 03:55:02 11/29/15 (6)
- RE: MAGICO - Broadcast Storm 14:48:35 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: MAGICO - Bodhi 06:04:37 11/29/15 (4)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - A.Wayne 07:39:18 11/29/15 (3)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - Bodhi 13:43:41 11/29/15 (2)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - A.Wayne 16:17:42 11/29/15 (1)
- RE: MAGICO and 1000hrs to ground zero - Bodhi 17:15:45 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 19:37:34 11/28/15 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Bodhi 20:20:50 11/28/15 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers and the yellow brick road - A.Wayne 01:31:15 11/29/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 16:58:11 11/28/15 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - A.Wayne 06:54:34 11/28/15 (0)
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- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 06/12/1223:18:21 06/12/12 (18)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:50:48 06/12/12 (17)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 00:24:46 06/13/12 (16)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 09:33:03 06/13/12 (14)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 15:54:07 06/13/12 (13)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 23:26:05 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 16:11:12 06/13/12 (11)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 16:29:21 06/13/12 (10)
- RE: Magico Speakers - morricab 01:27:47 06/14/12 (9)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 06:04:48 06/14/12 (8)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 10:32:19 06/14/12 (7)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 13:04:38 06/14/12 (6)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 13:37:39 06/14/12 (5)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:20:11 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: Magico Speakers - andy_c 14:29:42 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: Magico Speakers - villastrangiato 14:54:18 06/14/12 (2)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Wojciech 23:42:19 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 00:38:16 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: Magico Speakers - Disbeliever 04:55:19 06/13/12 (0)