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In Reply to: RE: Agree, but to split hairs... posted by john curl on August 19, 2009 at 10:06:09:
John,
Not only do those who don't believe in real differences in audio equipment tend to impugn anyone who doesn't share their audio beliefs, but some of that group are mentally & emotionally sick enough, like AJinFLA, that they'll even go so far as making sexual innuendos about my wife and a subwoofer ---{ as if that has anything to do with audio }--- when they cannot rationally or scientifically defend their audio beliefs!
Thetubeguy1954
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 00:13:32 08/13/09 (172)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - rditmars 16:46:42 08/18/09 (4)
- This Is Off-Topic Too......... - Todd Krieger 19:27:48 08/18/09 (3)
- The X-axis - "Stereo-width discrimination threshold" - rditmars 07:48:45 08/19/09 (1)
- RE: The X-axis - "Stereo-width discrimination threshold" - Todd Krieger 12:18:52 08/19/09 (0)
- RE: This Is Off-Topic Too......... - Tony Lauck 19:46:55 08/18/09 (0)
- I disagree - Don Till 09:48:57 08/18/09 (47)
- RE: I disagree - Donald North 05:10:31 08/19/09 (29)
- RE: I disagree - Don Till 06:21:13 08/19/09 (0)
- RE: I disagree - kerr 05:44:36 08/19/09 (27)
- RE: I disagree - Don Till 05:57:11 08/19/09 (26)
- That little smiley-face at the end... - robert young 08:29:26 08/19/09 (25)
- Agree, but to split hairs... - E-Stat 09:47:20 08/19/09 (24)
- RE: Agree, but to split hairs... - john curl 10:06:09 08/19/09 (23)
- You Mean Like When AJinFLA Made Sexual Innuendos About My Wife & A Subwoofer? - thetubeguy1954 08/21/0906:44:50 08/21/09 (0)
- And further... - kerr 11:42:31 08/19/09 (20)
- So you think just any old 'blind' test will do? What of controls? - Pat D 12:45:48 08/23/09 (19)
- RE: So you think just any old 'blind' test will do? What of controls? - kerr 15:22:48 08/23/09 (0)
- No pat, no breaks given. - robert young 14:12:40 08/23/09 (17)
- What on earth are you talking about? - Pat D 19:02:31 08/25/09 (11)
- You know exactly what I'm talking about: you replied. - robert young 02:32:01 08/26/09 (10)
- Since you don't accept the results of any DBTs . . . - Pat D 06:57:42 08/26/09 (9)
- Mr. Teflon...where are the valid DBTs? Does jj have them in a box somewhere? - robert young 07:38:21 08/26/09 (8)
- You won't accept any DBTs. No use discussing the matter with you. (nt) - Pat D 07:54:35 08/26/09 (7)
- Thought you'd try one of your teflon escapes. - robert young 08:43:08 08/26/09 (6)
- Nonsense. You haven't provided a shred of evidence to support you allegations against me. - Pat D 15:55:16 08/26/09 (5)
- Bullshit Pat. Try to get back on topic. - robert young 03:27:11 08/27/09 (4)
- You make the charge, you get to provide the evidence--if you can. - Pat D 13:39:19 08/27/09 (3)
- Stop being such a pathetic whiny baby, pat. - robert young 19:24:20 08/27/09 (2)
- Robert Young thinks asking for evidence is whining! (nt) - Pat D 14:06:37 08/28/09 (1)
- The pitch of your whining is increasing. - robert young 07:18:20 08/29/09 (0)
- RE: No pat, no breaks given. - Tony Lauck 13:49:58 08/24/09 (3)
- RE: No pat, no breaks given. - robert young 14:16:25 08/24/09 (2)
- RE: No pat, no breaks given. - Tony Lauck 14:38:08 08/24/09 (1)
- agreed. - robert young 15:26:48 08/24/09 (0)
- Isn't That The Truth? (nt) - thetubeguy1954 13:07:10 08/24/09 (0)
- Yeah, but that went right over Don's head :) -nt - E-Stat 10:16:45 08/19/09 (0)
- Your Response is Totally Off-Topic, But............. - Todd Krieger 19:11:18 08/18/09 (0)
- RE: I disagree - john curl 14:08:08 08/18/09 (1)
- RE: I disagree - Don Till 16:01:31 08/18/09 (0)
- You described your Phantasy World - nothing more. N/T - carcass93 12:46:47 08/18/09 (11)
- Beats vicariously experiencing it then attempting to build it up by beating on a strawman. nt - Don Till 16:43:16 08/18/09 (10)
- After reading your post, I think I know what "ANTI-audiophile wacko" means... - carcass93 19:33:06 08/18/09 (9)
- A detectivist, magazine reader who can't wait for the next recommended components list is an anti-audiophie - Don Till 22:41:09 08/18/09 (5)
- I've no idea who you're talking about, and also don't know what "detectivist" means. - carcass93 09:08:06 08/19/09 (3)
- Be Very Careful Carcass Don T Doesn't Play Fair - thetubeguy1954 13:39:51 08/24/09 (0)
- psst... - bjh 11:01:50 08/19/09 (0)
- Another hollow defensive contentless attacking response. - Don Till 10:29:41 08/19/09 (0)
- RE: A detectivist, magazine reader who can't wait for the next recommended components list is an anti-audiophie - bjh 04:23:17 08/19/09 (0)
- RE: After reading your post, I think I know what "ANTI-audiophile wacko" means... - Tony Lauck 19:53:27 08/18/09 (2)
- Fine line. - carcass93 09:11:09 08/19/09 (1)
- RE: Fine line. - Tony Lauck 09:39:22 08/19/09 (0)
- RE: I disagree - bjh 12:42:36 08/18/09 (1)
- Shoo fly! nt - Don Till 16:47:55 08/18/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - anthonyh 08:07:27 08/17/09 (2)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 15:33:53 08/17/09 (1)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - anthonyh 08:38:33 08/18/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - john curl 20:31:06 08/15/09 (2)
- Does it really matter what a few think? nt - Norm 07:39:04 08/17/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 20:55:38 08/15/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - gymwear5@hotmail.com 19:20:38 08/14/09 (42)
- Speaking of the Carver Challenge - E-Stat 17:25:57 08/17/09 (0)
- My attempt at drawing the line, following your logic and recommendations: - carcass93 11:08:13 08/17/09 (0)
- "authenticity can be easily disputed": can someone please dispute the existence of this post? - dave c 03:58:25 08/17/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - john curl 10:45:53 08/16/09 (27)
- The problem is many people "hear differences" when they compare a component with itself - Richard BassNut Greene 08:58:01 08/17/09 (23)
- RE: The problem is many people "hear differences" when they compare a component with itself - Todd Krieger 15:59:46 08/17/09 (10)
- "I just don't think it's a big deal whenever this occurs". - Richard BassNut Greene 08:08:54 08/18/09 (9)
- RE: "I just don't think it's a big deal whenever this occurs". - john curl 08:36:16 08/18/09 (8)
- Audiophiles are forced to make a choice every time they buy a component - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:28 08/19/09 (7)
- RE: Audiophiles are forced to make a choice every time they buy a component - anthonyh 07:12:21 08/20/09 (4)
- "no competent audiophile claims that EVERYTHING sounds different" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:17 08/20/09 (3)
- RE: "no competent audiophile claims that EVERYTHING sounds different" - anthonyh 08:47:09 08/20/09 (2)
- RE: "no competent audiophile claims that EVERYTHING sounds different" - john curl 21:16:00 08/20/09 (1)
- "If you can't hear any significant differences, why bother with audio components at all? " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:41:50 08/21/09 (0)
- RE: Audiophiles are forced to make a choice every time they buy a component - john curl 09:26:35 08/19/09 (1)
- I only defined "liar" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:42 08/21/09 (0)
- RE: The problem is many people "hear differences" when they compare a component with itself - john curl 10:14:52 08/17/09 (11)
- "What is in it for YOU? Are you trying to help, or are you trying to make trouble? " - Richard BassNut Greene 07:32:56 08/18/09 (10)
- "Help other audiophiles when you're our age" - kerr 09:45:24 08/18/09 (6)
- I seriously doubt that any further aging - E-Stat 17:13:58 08/19/09 (3)
- Do your own research -- do your own tests -- then tell us how well you can hear - Richard BassNut Greene 07:54:26 08/20/09 (2)
- That's "research???" - robert young 14:10:16 08/21/09 (0)
- Great proof, El Nutto ! - E-Stat 08:16:08 08/20/09 (0)
- Kerr the Comedian - Richard BassNut Greene 08:49:07 08/19/09 (1)
- Your MIL - kerr 09:30:18 08/19/09 (0)
- All Recorded Music Sounds the Same. - Tony Lauck 08:06:29 08/18/09 (2)
- I suspect that - E-Stat 09:05:23 08/18/09 (0)
- For your repeated and lame insults, you may ... - Richard BassNut Greene 08:10:51 08/18/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 01:13:03 08/17/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - rick_m 12:23:37 08/16/09 (1)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - john curl 15:25:08 08/16/09 (0)
- Speaker break-in - andy_c 21:13:12 08/14/09 (6)
- RE: Speaker break-in - gymwear5@hotmail.com 16:43:11 08/15/09 (2)
- RE: Speaker break-in - thetubeguy1954 12:51:28 08/17/09 (1)
- Just As I Expected Gym. You Have NO PROOF! (nt) - thetubeguy1954 06:36:30 08/21/09 (0)
- RE: Speaker break-in - rick_m 22:30:11 08/14/09 (2)
- RE: Speaker break-in - andy_c 09:35:38 08/16/09 (1)
- RE: Speaker break-in - rick_m 10:18:25 08/16/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 19:45:42 08/14/09 (3)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Tony Lauck 20:30:21 08/14/09 (2)
- Sounds like the "Animal House" of audiophilia :-) (nt) - andy_c 21:24:19 08/14/09 (1)
- That's for sure! Education certainly wouldn't appear to have been a priority. - bjh 06:55:07 08/15/09 (0)
- Some of the responses refute your contentions. - Pat D 07:20:35 08/14/09 (35)
- You Miss the Point............. - Todd Krieger 11:12:33 08/14/09 (19)
- You've been told ... - bjh 11:33:08 08/14/09 (18)
- You're Missing the Point Too....... - Todd Krieger 12:19:44 08/14/09 (17)
- You're Missing the Point Three - Richard BassNut Greene 13:31:59 08/14/09 (13)
- Ask Bill Clinton - Tony Lauck 18:04:23 08/14/09 (0)
- Again, Missing the Point ............... - Todd Krieger 15:30:15 08/14/09 (10)
- RE: Again, Missing the Point ............... - thetubeguy1954 11:44:28 08/15/09 (2)
- And, further... - kerr 14:48:24 08/15/09 (1)
- RE: And, further... - thetubeguy1954 08:14:10 08/17/09 (0)
- Only... - E-Stat 15:46:17 08/14/09 (6)
- RE: Only... - Todd Krieger 16:04:13 08/14/09 (5)
- You've got the hart before the course. - rick_m 11:28:41 08/16/09 (2)
- Yet Again, Missing the Point.............. - Todd Krieger 00:53:47 08/17/09 (1)
- RE:The Point is... - rick_m 08:56:50 08/17/09 (0)
- RE: Only... - Tony Lauck 18:06:48 08/14/09 (0)
- Fine - E-Stat 17:04:26 08/14/09 (0)
- Did you ever figure out how to answer the question below? - E-Stat 15:08:12 08/14/09 (0)
- "In order to **stop** this "dumb game" once and for all." Good luck with that! :) nt - bjh 12:36:27 08/14/09 (2)
- It's all your fault - Richard BassNut Greene 13:33:34 08/14/09 (1)
- RE: It's all your fault - bjh 20:19:02 08/14/09 (0)
- So tell us - does your equipment allow you to detect differences? - carcass93 09:50:22 08/14/09 (13)
- You're confused again. - Pat D 09:45:39 08/16/09 (12)
- What's so difficult about question "Does YOUR equipment allow you to detect differences?" - carcass93 11:02:43 08/17/09 (11)
- Learn to read. - Pat D 15:35:41 08/17/09 (10)
- Geez... You didn't understand my question, let alone answering it. - carcass93 16:08:28 08/17/09 (9)
- Mr. Teflon has difficulty with the English language -nt - E-Stat 15:42:27 08/18/09 (8)
- Clearly - why else phantasize about tube amps and cables, when asked about HIS equipment? - carcass93 17:52:06 08/18/09 (7)
- Sheep and wolves - Tony Lauck 19:03:10 08/18/09 (6)
- And the sheep sure like to talk about cables :) -nt - E-Stat 19:09:04 08/18/09 (5)
- Three guys whining who never --well, hardly ever--talk about their experience. (nt) - Pat D 06:55:12 08/19/09 (4)
- One guy pretending to have difficulty expressing himself in English, in addition ... - carcass93 09:26:15 08/19/09 (2)
- You're a self-fulfilling prophesy! (nt) - Pat D 14:02:23 08/19/09 (1)
- "prophesy"??? I see that your difficulties extend not only into verbal, but into written English as well. N/T - carcass93 14:32:33 08/19/09 (0)
- Absolutely! - E-Stat 07:28:46 08/19/09 (0)
- Well let me state for the record I don't think you would ever like any tube equipment better - Analog Scott 08:30:43 08/14/09 (0)
- hasn't this been beat to death? - tesla 09:21:06 08/13/09 (11)
- Yes, but if enough time elapses, the members have Jesus resurrect it. - kurt s 22:01:04 08/14/09 (0)
- Beat Yes, But.......... - Todd Krieger 12:01:54 08/13/09 (0)
- Sure, but... - kerr 10:39:22 08/13/09 (1)
- RE: ...mistaken belief that there are no sonic differences in cables. - rick_m 13:25:38 08/16/09 (0)
- I'm with you, Tesla - LarryB 09:37:09 08/13/09 (6)
- RE: I'm with you, Tesla - bjh 09:39:59 08/13/09 (5)
- Sorry, but you've lost me - LarryB 09:41:51 08/13/09 (4)
- Quelle surprise! nt - bjh 10:02:54 08/13/09 (3)
- Were you born rude... - LarryB 10:19:39 08/13/09 (2)
- If your ego is as fragile as your post suggests I would - bjh 10:39:17 08/13/09 (1)
- You will not have to till me twice. - LarryB 10:42:49 08/13/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - bjh 07:33:24 08/13/09 (14)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 11:43:35 08/13/09 (12)
- Here Here! - thetubeguy1954 04:47:12 08/14/09 (1)
- Jeez you'd think an audiophile would get Hear, Hear! correct. :) nt - bjh 06:44:34 08/14/09 (0)
- Ignore, don't slam, jerks. nt - Tony Lauck 12:17:23 08/13/09 (9)
- Why? Isn't that why we're here - to have fun, using any and all means available? N/T - carcass93 15:22:22 08/13/09 (0)
- I Would, But........... - Todd Krieger 12:36:45 08/13/09 (7)
- Problem is the Industry, not a few Internet jerks. - Tony Lauck 14:16:51 08/13/09 (3)
- RE: Problem is the Industry, not a few Internet jerks. - Todd Krieger 14:25:44 08/13/09 (2)
- RE: Problem is the Industry, not a few Internet jerks. - Tony Lauck 13:19:12 08/14/09 (0)
- RE: Problem is the Industry, not a few Internet jerks. - Tony Lauck 14:32:41 08/13/09 (0)
- I don't know about the contention that their imfluence has - bjh 13:53:58 08/13/09 (2)
- RE: I don't know about the contention that their imfluence has - Todd Krieger 14:23:49 08/13/09 (1)
- RE: I don't know about the contention that their imfluence has - kerr 06:36:52 08/14/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Analog Scott 10:20:49 08/13/09 (0)
- Then why do so many audiophiles whine about DBTs? - Pat D 06:51:01 08/13/09 (6)
- You Guys Have No Idea What a DBT Really Is........ - Todd Krieger 11:59:16 08/13/09 (3)
- The worst fallacy - E-Stat 12:23:21 08/13/09 (2)
- Pseudoscience... - mkuller 15:02:01 08/13/09 (1)
- RE: Pseudoscience... - Todd Krieger 16:30:29 08/13/09 (0)
- Why do the anit-audiophiles bring them up? - mkuller 11:00:14 08/13/09 (0)
- RE: Then why do so many audiophiles whine about DBTs? - Analog Scott 10:14:25 08/13/09 (0)
Follow Ups
- You Mean Like When AJinFLA Made Sexual Innuendos About My Wife & A Subwoofer? - thetubeguy1954 08/21/0906:44:50 08/21/09 (0)