In Reply to: The Real Belief System Exposed............. posted by Todd Krieger on August 13, 2009 at 00:13:32:
My observation is that this part of the hi-fi world did not exist in the early days of hi-fi. In the 50's hi-fi was a hobbyist's world. In the 60's it belonged to the engineers, JBL, Bose, McIntosh, Scott, etc. In the 760's the transistor took over along with the Japanese invasion - very high end loudspeaker market appeared. The birth of Tweekness appeared with the Monster cable and coincided with the birth of the CD. When the battle of sound was captured by the journalists beyond the "friendly" Carver-Stereophile challenge.
Anyone here believe in green felt tip marker rings on CD changing the signal of a played CD? If so you are a fool... Draw the line somewhere else? Cable lifts? You are a fool - unless you like the looks. Draw the line somewhere else? Power Cords, Interconnects, Cryogenic treatment, Cable break in, Amplifier break in - even loudspeaker break in authenticity can be easily disputed and challenged.
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- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - gymwear5@hotmail.com 08/14/0919:20:38 08/14/09 (42)
- Speaking of the Carver Challenge - E-Stat 17:25:57 08/17/09 (0)
- My attempt at drawing the line, following your logic and recommendations: - carcass93 11:08:13 08/17/09 (0)
- "authenticity can be easily disputed": can someone please dispute the existence of this post? - dave c 03:58:25 08/17/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - john curl 10:45:53 08/16/09 (27)
- The problem is many people "hear differences" when they compare a component with itself - Richard BassNut Greene 08:58:01 08/17/09 (23)
- RE: The problem is many people "hear differences" when they compare a component with itself - Todd Krieger 15:59:46 08/17/09 (10)
- "I just don't think it's a big deal whenever this occurs". - Richard BassNut Greene 08:08:54 08/18/09 (9)
- RE: "I just don't think it's a big deal whenever this occurs". - john curl 08:36:16 08/18/09 (8)
- Audiophiles are forced to make a choice every time they buy a component - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:28 08/19/09 (7)
- RE: Audiophiles are forced to make a choice every time they buy a component - anthonyh 07:12:21 08/20/09 (4)
- "no competent audiophile claims that EVERYTHING sounds different" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:17 08/20/09 (3)
- RE: "no competent audiophile claims that EVERYTHING sounds different" - anthonyh 08:47:09 08/20/09 (2)
- RE: "no competent audiophile claims that EVERYTHING sounds different" - john curl 21:16:00 08/20/09 (1)
- "If you can't hear any significant differences, why bother with audio components at all? " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:41:50 08/21/09 (0)
- RE: Audiophiles are forced to make a choice every time they buy a component - john curl 09:26:35 08/19/09 (1)
- I only defined "liar" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:42 08/21/09 (0)
- RE: The problem is many people "hear differences" when they compare a component with itself - john curl 10:14:52 08/17/09 (11)
- "What is in it for YOU? Are you trying to help, or are you trying to make trouble? " - Richard BassNut Greene 07:32:56 08/18/09 (10)
- "Help other audiophiles when you're our age" - kerr 09:45:24 08/18/09 (6)
- I seriously doubt that any further aging - E-Stat 17:13:58 08/19/09 (3)
- Do your own research -- do your own tests -- then tell us how well you can hear - Richard BassNut Greene 07:54:26 08/20/09 (2)
- That's "research???" - robert young 14:10:16 08/21/09 (0)
- Great proof, El Nutto ! - E-Stat 08:16:08 08/20/09 (0)
- Kerr the Comedian - Richard BassNut Greene 08:49:07 08/19/09 (1)
- Your MIL - kerr 09:30:18 08/19/09 (0)
- All Recorded Music Sounds the Same. - Tony Lauck 08:06:29 08/18/09 (2)
- I suspect that - E-Stat 09:05:23 08/18/09 (0)
- For your repeated and lame insults, you may ... - Richard BassNut Greene 08:10:51 08/18/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 01:13:03 08/17/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - rick_m 12:23:37 08/16/09 (1)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - john curl 15:25:08 08/16/09 (0)
- Speaker break-in - andy_c 21:13:12 08/14/09 (6)
- RE: Speaker break-in - gymwear5@hotmail.com 16:43:11 08/15/09 (2)
- RE: Speaker break-in - thetubeguy1954 12:51:28 08/17/09 (1)
- Just As I Expected Gym. You Have NO PROOF! (nt) - thetubeguy1954 06:36:30 08/21/09 (0)
- RE: Speaker break-in - rick_m 22:30:11 08/14/09 (2)
- RE: Speaker break-in - andy_c 09:35:38 08/16/09 (1)
- RE: Speaker break-in - rick_m 10:18:25 08/16/09 (0)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Todd Krieger 19:45:42 08/14/09 (3)
- RE: The Real Belief System Exposed............. - Tony Lauck 20:30:21 08/14/09 (2)
- Sounds like the "Animal House" of audiophilia :-) (nt) - andy_c 21:24:19 08/14/09 (1)
- That's for sure! Education certainly wouldn't appear to have been a priority. - bjh 06:55:07 08/15/09 (0)