In Reply to: "Demonstrated that FOR THE SAME RECORDING reducing the resolution did not have an audible effect." NO! posted by clarkjohnsen on September 17, 2007 at 10:49:26:
"What they did was run a hi-rez recording through some sort of digital "bottleneck" -- totally unspecified -- and then infer conclusions about CD."
We reached conclusions about the CD because, as the paper says, the codec through which we ran the analog signal was a CD codec -- the A/D/A cycle of an HHB CDR-850 recorder. We didn't record the bits to a disc; we just encoded them and decoded them. As those who refereed the paper understood, a CD would have sounded the same but would have been hard to synchronize, while the 11-ms delay of the codec alone allowed us to do quick and easy comparisons.
Of course I realize you may still believe that the disc itself changes the sound, on the basis of your own unsupported perception. I'd love to see you demonstrate that, but you always refuse such requests (skepticism is so unbecoming in one's acolytes, isn't it?), so there seems no point in discussing it. -- Brad
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Follow Ups
- RE: That clears up a lot! - EBradMeyer 09/21/0721:24:25 09/21/07 (33)
- "A CD would have sounded the same." Good to know, but bland assertions are not proof. Besides... - clarkjohnsen 08:42:46 09/22/07 (32)
- RE: "Memory Player that produces a sonic result superior to any other" - tlyyra 08:49:21 09/24/07 (0)
- RE: That clears up a lot! - EBradMeyer 07:01:54 09/23/07 (19)
- "I give you The Church of the Latter Day Saints." So that's what it's going to be, is it? - clarkjohnsen 08:54:32 09/24/07 (18)
- RE: "I give you The Church of the Latter Day Saints." So that's what it's going to be, is it? - EBradMeyer 14:18:08 09/24/07 (1)
- "The device we were using is a recording system, which passes a signal *through* it." Oh. - clarkjohnsen 10:13:34 09/25/07 (0)
- RE: "I give you The Church of the Latter Day Saints." So that's what it's going to be, is it? - EBradMeyer 13:53:30 09/24/07 (15)
- "It's not up to me to prove reviewers can't hear the huge differences." LOL! You made the assertion... - clarkjohnsen 09:59:20 09/25/07 (8)
- Still bullshitting? - tlyyra 10:21:25 09/26/07 (2)
- I be happy you continue to delude yourself. Couldn't happen to a more appropriate guy. - clarkjohnsen 11:22:48 09/28/07 (1)
- Done that - tlyyra 10:05:26 09/29/07 (0)
- RE: "It's not up to me, etc." - EBradMeyer 11:28:48 09/25/07 (4)
- "They're... way to risky for you." Oh geez, puh-leeze. - clarkjohnsen 09:16:22 09/26/07 (0)
- You're correct - it has been demonstrated. Don't bother arguing with him; it's an utter waste of time. /nt - truthseekerprime 20:01:22 09/25/07 (2)
- "It has been demonstrated" all right... that it's "a crock". That's if you pay any attention to... - clarkjohnsen 09:24:08 09/26/07 (0)
- RE: You're correct etc. - EBradMeyer 07:32:26 09/26/07 (0)
- Complettely OT - ABXing absolute polarity - Axon 22:32:57 09/24/07 (5)
- RE: Complettely OT - ABXing absolute polarity - EBradMeyer 01:33:16 09/25/07 (4)
- You underestimate the thickness of my skull - Axon 05:52:32 09/25/07 (3)
- RE: You underestimate the thickness of my skull - EBradMeyer 11:33:53 09/25/07 (2)
- No pain, no gain! - Axon 16:54:20 09/26/07 (1)
- RE: No pain, no gain! - EBradMeyer 07:40:47 09/27/07 (0)
- RE: "A CD would have sounded the same." Good to know, but bland assertions are not proof. Besides... - krabapple 16:24:39 09/22/07 (1)
- AA posts as "uncontradicted evidence" - tlyyra 03:30:22 09/23/07 (0)
- You're right Clark, but that's not the point. - rick_m 12:34:04 09/22/07 (8)
- Thank you. But even "going astray", while that does happen, is not the core of my argument. - clarkjohnsen 11:09:23 09/23/07 (7)
- RE: Thank you. But even "going astray", while that does happen, is not the core of my argument. - rick_m 13:09:12 09/23/07 (6)
- "They have eliminated [CD playback] as a variable," True; but then they try to tell us... - clarkjohnsen 08:26:14 09/24/07 (5)
- Having now read it... - rick_m 09:07:04 09/25/07 (1)
- "I wasn't missing much." Indeed not. Yet I got challenged for calling it a quick read! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:02:59 09/25/07 (0)
- OK,Ok,ok - rick_m 09:14:13 09/24/07 (2)
- This URL may get you to it. - clarkjohnsen 09:33:57 09/24/07 (1)
- Excellent, thanks! nt - rick_m 09:46:55 09/24/07 (0)