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Pinging cheap-Jack: Morricab would like a word with you.


> > > You did cryo tests, right? Same principle." < < <

> > Normal freezer temperatures do not have the same effect as cryogenic treatment. It is well documented that the behavior of materials at .. < <

Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there. I already explained this to your friend cheap-Jack, who also couldn't understand context. Read my reply, and please don't read and take quotes out of their context next time. I don't even want to hear about "cryo" period, that's not the subject of my thread.

> > Putting metal in a freezer has no permanent effect on its grain structure, conductivity, hardness etc. Cryogenically treating it does affect these parameters. < <

First of all, you're assuming you understand the working principle behind the effect. And that it only applies to metal. You're contradicting the research of Cryogenics Int'l re: effect, so what research have you done to be able to say that? The enhancement effect of perception of sound, in my experiments and that of all others I know of, is a permanent one.

> > > "Don't be arrogant, Jack. I know more than you about it" < < <

Mighty presumptuous of you Posy seeing as you aren't pals with Jack and thus make big assumptions on his experience.

What are you talking about? This clown even calls me his "pal"! And I don't see you accusing him of being presumptuous for that, nor for him arrogantly suggesting I don't know anything about the effect, when he knows nothing about me. And when he can't even figure out which type of freezing process I'm talking about. I know guys like your "cheap Jack" all too well. Like most guys on these forums like PHP who only want to argue theory and mostly understand audio via theories, they're all talk. They have very little actual experience in doing pioneering hands-on experiments in audio, and even less in listening skill. You want presumption? I'll go further and say that I've probably done more tests on the domestic freeze effect than anyone on this forum (with the likely exception of Mr. Kait). Now. Let's have cheap Jack respond for himself, and tell me what is the extent of his testing re: domestic freezer, okay? We'll see if you're right.

Hello! Cheap Jack! Yoohoo! I think I asked you this before and like all the other refutations I wrote to you, you never answered! Detail your experiments with the domestic freeze effect please! We have a bet going here!

Don't worry, I'm sure he's gonna be along any minute, and we'll settle this issue.


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