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In Reply to: RE: End of Days for USB audio? posted by fmak on June 3, 2016 at 11:35:43:
I recall when Ted Smith was posting on AA and working on a prototype of what eventually became the PS Audio Direct Stream DAC he mentioned that different flip flops sounded different. It's not surprising that different flip flops sound different, especially if they are driving the actual analog signal.
As to selecting two outputs from a flip-flop, if you are talking about the Q and Qbar outputs you will be complementing the signal (more or less if it's 2's complement, exactly so if it's DSD). So there will be a polarity reversal which should be audible if not corrected somehow downstream.
Tony Lauck
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - End of Days for USB audio? - Sordidman 09:30:53 06/3/16 (123)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Bill Way 15:52:16 06/5/16 (1)
- Thanks for this info Bill (nt) - Mercman 16:16:16 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Windows X 11:48:08 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Thorsten 11:22:44 06/4/16 (58)
- By "network audio"... - DAVID 23:41:54 07/13/16 (0)
- XMOS Question - fmak 00:20:02 06/14/16 (1)
- No comment - all under NDA (NT) - Thorsten 00:42:05 06/14/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Thorsten 09:56:43 06/10/16 (18)
- Software optimisation sounds scary - fmak 09:33:13 06/13/16 (11)
- RE: Software optimisation sounds scary - Windows X 09:50:12 06/13/16 (10)
- Yes - fmak 11:01:33 06/13/16 (9)
- RE: Yes - Windows X 11:24:22 06/13/16 (8)
- flawed logic ? - fmak 11:29:18 06/13/16 (7)
- RE: flawed logic ? - Windows X 11:50:41 06/13/16 (6)
- RE: flawed logic ? - fmak 22:22:02 06/13/16 (5)
- RE: flawed logic ? - Windows X 23:04:32 06/13/16 (4)
- I have better things to do than - fmak 03:39:34 06/14/16 (3)
- RE: I have better things to do than - Windows X 04:01:33 06/14/16 (2)
- Achievement unlocked! - Windows X 02:37:33 06/17/16 (0)
- +1 - AbeCollins 15:19:55 06/16/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Mercman 10:40:44 06/11/16 (0)
- +1 Completely Agree - AbeCollins 08:47:22 06/11/16 (3)
- RE: +1 Completely Agree - Mercman 11:04:04 06/11/16 (2)
- RE: +1 Completely Agree - AbeCollins 08:27:30 06/12/16 (1)
- RE: +1 Completely Agree - Mercman 09:32:19 06/12/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Isaak J. Garvey 12:12:36 06/10/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - SBGK 07:12:06 06/5/16 (16)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Isaak J. Garvey 08:17:11 06/5/16 (15)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Mercman 16:21:55 06/5/16 (2)
- Are there similar products for Mac? nt - oldmkvi 09:57:32 06/6/16 (1)
- RE: Are there similar products for Mac? nt - Mercman 12:17:43 06/6/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - fmak 08:51:48 06/5/16 (11)
- Woefully inadequate! - E-Stat 15:12:32 06/5/16 (7)
- RE: "plumbing based corruption"... - Ivan303 19:54:10 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: Woefully inadequate! - Mercman 16:23:49 06/5/16 (5)
- RE: Woefully inadequate! - Tony Lauck 11:16:45 06/6/16 (1)
- RE: Woefully inadequate! - Mercman 12:20:07 06/6/16 (0)
- RE: Woefully inadequate!-myterious setup - fmak 22:17:14 06/5/16 (0)
- That may well be the case, but - E-Stat 16:59:42 06/5/16 (1)
- RE: That may well be the case, but - Mercman 17:14:01 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - AbeCollins 09:30:09 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Isaak J. Garvey 09:03:08 06/5/16 (1)
- an enormous amount of time - fmak 09:23:16 06/5/16 (0)
- Networked USB audio! - Roseval 02:06:44 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - fmak 23:02:03 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Isaak J. Garvey 13:26:46 06/4/16 (3)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - ahendler 13:46:20 06/4/16 (2)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Isaak J. Garvey 13:50:28 06/4/16 (1)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - ahendler 13:58:17 06/4/16 (0)
- "audiophooles who live in constant FUD"................. - Cut-Throat 11:52:46 06/4/16 (12)
- And FNRP... - Ivan303 12:28:14 06/4/16 (11)
- "F"or "N"owhere near "R"etail "P"rice - when it goes on Audiogon..... - Cut-Throat 14:20:25 06/4/16 (10)
- FWIW - E-Stat 14:45:45 06/4/16 (8)
- +1 on hi-res and telling time. LoL - AbeCollins 22:10:00 06/4/16 (0)
- +1... - Ivan303 21:16:58 06/4/16 (0)
- Not against it at all............................... - Cut-Throat 14:52:02 06/4/16 (5)
- I share your concern - E-Stat 15:15:15 06/4/16 (4)
- RE: I share your concern - Cut-Throat 15:32:48 06/4/16 (3)
- RE: I share your concern - cfraser 11:21:29 06/5/16 (1)
- RE: I share your concern - Cut-Throat 11:30:29 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: I share your concern - E-Stat 17:06:24 06/4/16 (0)
- Or you could invest in 'bit coin'... - Ivan303 14:26:06 06/4/16 (0)
- It died awhile back - bullethead 06:49:44 06/4/16 (27)
- RE: It died awhile back - ahendler 07:36:50 06/4/16 (26)
- What problems did you have? - Dave_K 12:10:05 06/4/16 (1)
- RE: What problems did you have? - ahendler 13:32:10 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: It died awhile back - AbeCollins 07:59:46 06/4/16 (22)
- To each his own, but... - E-Stat 10:22:49 06/4/16 (1)
- +1, Yes both - AbeCollins 22:03:36 06/4/16 (0)
- Whatever just be aware of walled gardens - bullethead 08:05:22 06/4/16 (19)
- So you can't stream Deezer Elite... - Ivan303 09:25:35 06/4/16 (17)
- it is supposed to work with Qobuz - bullethead 12:44:30 06/4/16 (16)
- RE: it is supposed to work with Qobuz - ahendler 13:37:20 06/4/16 (11)
- QOBUZ is still hanging by a thread... - Ivan303 14:40:03 06/4/16 (10)
- Can you recommend - bullethead 14:46:02 06/4/16 (9)
- RE: No Guilt - Jeff Starr 11:25:06 06/5/16 (7)
- RE: No Guilt - AbeCollins 20:38:12 06/6/16 (2)
- RE: No Guilt - Jeff Starr 21:02:51 06/6/16 (1)
- RE: No Guilt - cfraser 12:03:34 06/7/16 (0)
- RE: No Guilt - cfraser 17:29:10 06/6/16 (1)
- RE: You Didn't - Jeff Starr 20:40:01 06/6/16 (0)
- RE: No Guilt - bullethead 15:57:14 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: No Guilt - ahendler 15:18:53 06/5/16 (0)
- Really? - E-Stat 17:25:04 06/4/16 (0)
- So it sounds better than your Wyer4Sound upgraded SONOS Connect? - Ivan303 12:59:04 06/4/16 (3)
- not a fair comparison - bullethead 13:09:43 06/4/16 (2)
- If I get a fiber based ISP service... - Ivan303 13:19:33 06/4/16 (1)
- If you have 4G service - bullethead 13:24:15 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: Whatever just be aware of walled gardens - Isaak J. Garvey 08:22:07 06/4/16 (0)
- probably an early adapter and a bad batch - bullethead 07:42:23 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - beppe61 23:42:33 06/3/16 (6)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - ahendler 13:41:04 06/4/16 (1)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - beppe61 15:24:57 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - cfraser 08:40:59 06/4/16 (1)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - beppe61 15:27:54 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Ugly 00:31:02 06/4/16 (1)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - beppe61 06:37:45 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: " that showed us how bad a multi-function computer really is?" - Ivan303 11:45:01 06/3/16 (13)
- how bad a multi-function computer really is? - fmak 23:09:51 06/3/16 (5)
- RE: "I have better things to do than to go further." - Ivan303 07:05:55 06/4/16 (4)
- RE: "I have better things to do than to go further." - AbeCollins 07:41:18 06/4/16 (3)
- troll3 - fmak 08:30:25 06/4/16 (2)
- RE: troll3 - AbeCollins 08:57:06 06/5/16 (1)
- troll5 - fmak 11:06:35 06/5/16 (0)
- Yes, - a better way of saying it: USB bus Thanks -t - Sordidman 12:01:29 06/3/16 (6)
- USB bus - fmak 12:27:27 06/3/16 (5)
- Has highlighted the eventual demise of USB since.... - Ugly 00:58:55 06/4/16 (1)
- no one will feel anything - fmak 03:36:20 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: USB bus - AbeCollins 12:32:25 06/3/16 (2)
- troll 1 - fmak 21:59:07 06/3/16 (1)
- RE: troll 1 - AbeCollins 08:57:43 06/5/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - fmak 11:35:43 06/3/16 (11)
- 384kbit I2S - soundchekk 02:28:07 06/4/16 (4)
- I'm running 384kbit on my RPI with HifiBerry DAC+ Pro. - fmak 03:34:47 06/4/16 (3)
- RE: I'm running 384kbit on my RPI with HifiBerry DAC+ Pro. - soundchekk 05:21:50 06/4/16 (2)
- your subject is not mine. - fmak 05:42:04 06/4/16 (1)
- RE: your subject is not mine. - soundchekk 06:07:21 06/4/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Tony Lauck 06/3/1613:03:42 06/3/16 (1)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - fmak 22:01:26 06/3/16 (0)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - AbeCollins 12:46:18 06/3/16 (2)
- troll2 - fmak 22:02:01 06/3/16 (1)
- RE: troll2 - AbeCollins 08:58:41 06/5/16 (0)
- Yes.... - Sordidman 12:07:21 06/3/16 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - Tony Lauck 06/3/1613:03:42 06/3/16 (1)
- RE: End of Days for USB audio? - fmak 22:01:26 06/3/16 (0)