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In Reply to: RE: 444.53 Hz. posted by David Smith on September 14, 2015 at 19:59:38:
Just play the You Tube and time it. The difference is large enough that you can do this by hand and resolve a one percent difference. No problem recognizing the start of the music and the start of the last chord.
For the LP you will need a turntable that is running at the correct speed, and this can't necessarily be verified with a strobe light, because the power line frequency may be off. Also, note that a turntable runs at slightly different speed according to the inner and outer groves and the loudness of the music. I'm not sure how much this might be. You could time the LP accurately by counting revolutions if you have the patience. If you get within 1 revolution that will be 0.14% accuracy over the first movement.
Tony Lauck
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 08:14:29 09/11/15 (100)
- For the record, I take this claim back - David Smith 16:01:25 09/15/15 (6)
- Double Concerto on same album -- same pitch - Tony Lauck 10:05:27 09/17/15 (5)
- Interesting - David Smith 11:29:23 09/17/15 (4)
- RE: Interesting - Tony Lauck 12:12:13 09/17/15 (3)
- The administration of the Berlin Philharmonic replied to my request for information - John Marks 10:03:49 09/18/15 (2)
- Not surprising to flute players - rbolaw 12:25:26 09/18/15 (0)
- RE: The administration of the Berlin Philharmonic replied to my request for information - Tony Lauck 11:12:31 09/18/15 (0)
- Is this the recording at issue - Tony Lauck 10:21:58 09/14/15 (14)
- RE: Is this the recording at issue - Todd Krieger 12:15:13 09/14/15 (0)
- The Op. 77 portion, yes. nt - David Smith 10:36:27 09/14/15 (12)
- 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 12:54:03 09/14/15 (10)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 13:08:00 09/14/15 (9)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 17:49:56 09/14/15 (8)
- Comparison of two speeds - Tony Lauck 19:57:10 09/14/15 (2)
- RE: Comparison of two speeds - David Smith 20:09:30 09/14/15 (1)
- RE: Comparison of two speeds - Tony Lauck 20:29:07 09/14/15 (0)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 18:24:59 09/14/15 (4)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 18:44:10 09/14/15 (3)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 19:59:38 09/14/15 (2)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 09/14/1520:15:35 09/14/15 (1)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 20:22:01 09/14/15 (0)
- Thanks, ordered and downloading now. nt - Tony Lauck 10:52:25 09/14/15 (0)
- This the MOST Ridiculous thread ever! - oldmkvi 09:38:41 09/14/15 (4)
- Good points, but ... - rbolaw 12:33:50 09/14/15 (1)
- Tuning... - andy evans 08:56:20 09/15/15 (0)
- Disagree........ - Todd Krieger 11:36:15 09/14/15 (1)
- Agree (with Todd and others) - Chris from Lafayette 11:55:31 09/14/15 (0)
- My goodness, are these the kind of obsessions I can expect when entering my Low-T years? - jdaniel@jps.net 08:47:14 09/12/15 (3)
- You think Jerry will sign for it here in California? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:51:52 09/12/15 (2)
- He won't sign it... - Ivan303 13:27:13 09/12/15 (1)
- Hey - you haven't even been in the retirement home yet! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:08:54 09/12/15 (0)
- I'm taking Dave's use of the word "fraud" as a rhetorical device. . . - Chris from Lafayette 01:04:17 09/12/15 (8)
- Agree, but... - briggs 07:07:14 09/12/15 (5)
- In the passion of the moment, I've used a poor word or two myself [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:42:34 09/12/15 (4)
- Passion? - briggs 15:00:49 09/12/15 (3)
- RE: Passion? - Todd Krieger 02:05:28 09/13/15 (1)
- And - David Smith 06:36:07 09/13/15 (0)
- Heat? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:11:18 09/12/15 (0)
- Good choice. - Rick W 05:20:50 09/12/15 (1)
- RE: Good choice. - Analog Scott 09:40:53 09/12/15 (0)
- RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - kitch29 19:25:45 09/11/15 (0)
- RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach 14:15:15 09/11/15 (7)
- RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 15:37:53 09/11/15 (6)
- RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach 15:55:24 09/11/15 (5)
- Forced to agree. But I'm not a lawyer so I can't really say, but.... - Ivan303 19:48:21 09/11/15 (4)
- RE: Forced to agree. But I'm not a lawyer so I can't really say, but.... - rbolaw 07:14:44 09/12/15 (3)
- It's much more factual than that - David Smith 12:01:08 09/12/15 (1)
- RE: It's much more factual than that - rbolaw 13:18:30 09/12/15 (0)
- The statement "John Marks is a fraud." does not seem to me to be... - Ivan303 10:10:12 09/12/15 (0)
- A440 is not a speed test in digital - Bill Way 13:54:06 09/11/15 (1)
- That's not really relevant here - David Smith 15:37:31 09/11/15 (0)
- David Smith is engaging in personal attacks and should be banned from AA. - Ivan303 11:56:11 09/11/15 (4)
- Nothing personal about it - David Smith 12:15:46 09/11/15 (3)
- Well, IMNSHO the phrase "John Marks is a fraud." would do the trick... - Ivan303 12:40:22 09/11/15 (2)
- I used those words not because - David Smith 15:37:46 09/11/15 (1)
- OK, then try 'stubborn' or even 'stupid'... - Ivan303 10:04:35 09/12/15 (0)
- RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - Todd Krieger 10:32:32 09/11/15 (5)
- Yes, more hard evidence is needed. - rbolaw 12:22:33 09/11/15 (3)
- The violin open A is 440. What further evidence could possibly be required? nt - David Smith 12:24:29 09/11/15 (2)
- RE: The violin open A is 440. What further evidence could possibly be required? nt - rbolaw 12:30:45 09/11/15 (1)
- RE: The violin open A is 440. What further evidence could possibly be required? nt - David Smith 12:44:56 09/11/15 (0)
- RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 10:45:21 09/11/15 (0)
- The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Marks 08:41:25 09/11/15 (37)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 06:37:46 09/13/15 (22)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 07:27:41 09/13/15 (21)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 07:50:06 09/13/15 (20)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 08:02:26 09/13/15 (19)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 09:31:44 09/13/15 (18)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Todd Krieger 01:45:48 09/14/15 (0)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 20:16:01 09/13/15 (15)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - rbolaw 05:57:57 09/14/15 (0)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 04:42:04 09/14/15 (13)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 06:29:36 09/14/15 (12)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 06:47:24 09/14/15 (11)
- I have no horse in this race, but....... - Rick W 08:23:21 09/14/15 (2)
- RE: I have no horse in this race, but....... - John Atkinson 10:07:10 09/14/15 (1)
- Have no idea. But like you, I've never heard of deliberate speed/pitch alteration of a youtube clip. nt - Rick W 12:20:34 09/14/15 (0)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 06:55:36 09/14/15 (7)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 08:00:05 09/14/15 (6)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 09:19:50 09/14/15 (4)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 10:05:14 09/14/15 (3)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 10:21:04 09/14/15 (2)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Todd Krieger 02:20:47 09/15/15 (1)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Tony Lauck 08:09:36 09/15/15 (0)
- +1... - Ivan303 08:22:10 09/14/15 (0)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - rbolaw 11:06:54 09/13/15 (0)
- RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Todd Krieger 01:13:00 09/12/15 (9)
- You want to know what A445 (or A446) sounds like? - Chris from Lafayette 01:19:03 09/12/15 (8)
- True. - rbolaw 07:28:23 09/12/15 (1)
- I haven't heard those performances - but I'll bet they had a lot of "spontaneity"! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:46:37 09/12/15 (0)
- RE: You want to know what A445 (or A446) sounds like? - Todd Krieger 04:32:06 09/12/15 (5)
- Gotcha - although I think that phenomenon is less true with digital [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 12:44:13 09/12/15 (4)
- What Phenomenon? - Todd Krieger 18:30:53 09/12/15 (3)
- Yup, I meant the Alvin effect - Chris from Lafayette 23:09:13 09/12/15 (2)
- RE: Yup, I meant the Alvin effect - Todd Krieger 00:09:46 09/13/15 (1)
- RE: Yup, I meant the Alvin effect - Tony Lauck 09:41:54 09/14/15 (0)
- Measurements of the entire cadenza mean absolutely nothing - David Smith 08:55:57 09/11/15 (3)
- RE: Measurements of the entire cadenza mean absolutely nothing - John Atkinson 05:29:15 09/13/15 (1)
- Wow.... I Noticed Something Else..... - Todd Krieger 02:11:33 09/14/15 (0)
- RE: Measurements of the entire cadenza mean absolutely nothing - Tony Lauck 13:13:09 09/11/15 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 09/14/1520:15:35 09/14/15 (1)
- RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 20:22:01 09/14/15 (0)