RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach

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Topic - Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 08:14:29 09/11/15 (100)

For the record, I take this claim back - David Smith 16:01:25 09/15/15 (6)

Double Concerto on same album -- same pitch - Tony Lauck 10:05:27 09/17/15 (5)

Interesting - David Smith 11:29:23 09/17/15 (4)

RE: Interesting - Tony Lauck 12:12:13 09/17/15 (3)

The administration of the Berlin Philharmonic replied to my request for information - John Marks 10:03:49 09/18/15 (2)

Not surprising to flute players - rbolaw 12:25:26 09/18/15 (0)

RE: The administration of the Berlin Philharmonic replied to my request for information - Tony Lauck 11:12:31 09/18/15 (0)

Is this the recording at issue - Tony Lauck 10:21:58 09/14/15 (14)

RE: Is this the recording at issue - Todd Krieger 12:15:13 09/14/15 (0)

The Op. 77 portion, yes. nt - David Smith 10:36:27 09/14/15 (12)

444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 12:54:03 09/14/15 (10)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 13:08:00 09/14/15 (9)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 17:49:56 09/14/15 (8)

Comparison of two speeds - Tony Lauck 19:57:10 09/14/15 (2)

RE: Comparison of two speeds - David Smith 20:09:30 09/14/15 (1)

RE: Comparison of two speeds - Tony Lauck 20:29:07 09/14/15 (0)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 18:24:59 09/14/15 (4)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 18:44:10 09/14/15 (3)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 19:59:38 09/14/15 (2)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - Tony Lauck 20:15:35 09/14/15 (1)

RE: 444.53 Hz. - David Smith 20:22:01 09/14/15 (0)

Thanks, ordered and downloading now. nt - Tony Lauck 10:52:25 09/14/15 (0)

This the MOST Ridiculous thread ever! - oldmkvi 09:38:41 09/14/15 (4)

Good points, but ... - rbolaw 12:33:50 09/14/15 (1)

Tuning... - andy evans 08:56:20 09/15/15 (0)

Disagree........ - Todd Krieger 11:36:15 09/14/15 (1)

Agree (with Todd and others) - Chris from Lafayette 11:55:31 09/14/15 (0)

My goodness, are these the kind of obsessions I can expect when entering my Low-T years? - jdaniel@jps.net 08:47:14 09/12/15 (3)

You think Jerry will sign for it here in California? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:51:52 09/12/15 (2)

He won't sign it... - Ivan303 13:27:13 09/12/15 (1)

Hey - you haven't even been in the retirement home yet! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:08:54 09/12/15 (0)

I'm taking Dave's use of the word "fraud" as a rhetorical device. . . - Chris from Lafayette 01:04:17 09/12/15 (8)

Agree, but... - briggs 07:07:14 09/12/15 (5)

In the passion of the moment, I've used a poor word or two myself [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:42:34 09/12/15 (4)

Passion? - briggs 15:00:49 09/12/15 (3)

RE: Passion? - Todd Krieger 02:05:28 09/13/15 (1)

And - David Smith 06:36:07 09/13/15 (0)

Heat? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:11:18 09/12/15 (0)

Good choice. - Rick W 05:20:50 09/12/15 (1)

RE: Good choice. - Analog Scott 09:40:53 09/12/15 (0)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - kitch29 19:25:45 09/11/15 (0)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach 09/11/1514:15:15 09/11/15 (7)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 15:37:53 09/11/15 (6)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach 15:55:24 09/11/15 (5)

Forced to agree. But I'm not a lawyer so I can't really say, but.... - Ivan303 19:48:21 09/11/15 (4)

RE: Forced to agree. But I'm not a lawyer so I can't really say, but.... - rbolaw 07:14:44 09/12/15 (3)

It's much more factual than that - David Smith 12:01:08 09/12/15 (1)

RE: It's much more factual than that - rbolaw 13:18:30 09/12/15 (0)

The statement "John Marks is a fraud." does not seem to me to be... - Ivan303 10:10:12 09/12/15 (0)

A440 is not a speed test in digital - Bill Way 13:54:06 09/11/15 (1)

That's not really relevant here - David Smith 15:37:31 09/11/15 (0)

David Smith is engaging in personal attacks and should be banned from AA. - Ivan303 11:56:11 09/11/15 (4)

Nothing personal about it - David Smith 12:15:46 09/11/15 (3)

Well, IMNSHO the phrase "John Marks is a fraud." would do the trick... - Ivan303 12:40:22 09/11/15 (2)

I used those words not because - David Smith 15:37:46 09/11/15 (1)

OK, then try 'stubborn' or even 'stupid'... - Ivan303 10:04:35 09/12/15 (0)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - Todd Krieger 10:32:32 09/11/15 (5)

Yes, more hard evidence is needed. - rbolaw 12:22:33 09/11/15 (3)

The violin open A is 440. What further evidence could possibly be required? nt - David Smith 12:24:29 09/11/15 (2)

RE: The violin open A is 440. What further evidence could possibly be required? nt - rbolaw 12:30:45 09/11/15 (1)

RE: The violin open A is 440. What further evidence could possibly be required? nt - David Smith 12:44:56 09/11/15 (0)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 10:45:21 09/11/15 (0)

The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Marks 08:41:25 09/11/15 (37)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 06:37:46 09/13/15 (22)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 07:27:41 09/13/15 (21)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 07:50:06 09/13/15 (20)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 08:02:26 09/13/15 (19)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 09:31:44 09/13/15 (18)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Todd Krieger 01:45:48 09/14/15 (0)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 20:16:01 09/13/15 (15)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - rbolaw 05:57:57 09/14/15 (0)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 04:42:04 09/14/15 (13)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 06:29:36 09/14/15 (12)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 06:47:24 09/14/15 (11)

I have no horse in this race, but....... - Rick W 08:23:21 09/14/15 (2)

RE: I have no horse in this race, but....... - John Atkinson 10:07:10 09/14/15 (1)

Have no idea. But like you, I've never heard of deliberate speed/pitch alteration of a youtube clip. nt - Rick W 12:20:34 09/14/15 (0)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 06:55:36 09/14/15 (7)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 08:00:05 09/14/15 (6)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 09:19:50 09/14/15 (4)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - John Atkinson 10:05:14 09/14/15 (3)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - David Smith 10:21:04 09/14/15 (2)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Todd Krieger 02:20:47 09/15/15 (1)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Tony Lauck 08:09:36 09/15/15 (0)

+1... - Ivan303 08:22:10 09/14/15 (0)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - rbolaw 11:06:54 09/13/15 (0)

RE: The 24/96 FLAC download 1st movement cadenza is at 445, so is the SACD's CD layer - Todd Krieger 01:13:00 09/12/15 (9)

You want to know what A445 (or A446) sounds like? - Chris from Lafayette 01:19:03 09/12/15 (8)

True. - rbolaw 07:28:23 09/12/15 (1)

I haven't heard those performances - but I'll bet they had a lot of "spontaneity"! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:46:37 09/12/15 (0)

RE: You want to know what A445 (or A446) sounds like? - Todd Krieger 04:32:06 09/12/15 (5)

Gotcha - although I think that phenomenon is less true with digital [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 12:44:13 09/12/15 (4)

What Phenomenon? - Todd Krieger 18:30:53 09/12/15 (3)

Yup, I meant the Alvin effect - Chris from Lafayette 23:09:13 09/12/15 (2)

RE: Yup, I meant the Alvin effect - Todd Krieger 00:09:46 09/13/15 (1)

RE: Yup, I meant the Alvin effect - Tony Lauck 09:41:54 09/14/15 (0)

Measurements of the entire cadenza mean absolutely nothing - David Smith 08:55:57 09/11/15 (3)

RE: Measurements of the entire cadenza mean absolutely nothing - John Atkinson 05:29:15 09/13/15 (1)

Wow.... I Noticed Something Else..... - Todd Krieger 02:11:33 09/14/15 (0)

RE: Measurements of the entire cadenza mean absolutely nothing - Tony Lauck 13:13:09 09/11/15 (0)

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RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach 09/11/1514:15:15 09/11/15 (7)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - David Smith 15:37:53 09/11/15 (6)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud. - pbarach 15:55:24 09/11/15 (5)

Forced to agree. But I'm not a lawyer so I can't really say, but.... - Ivan303 19:48:21 09/11/15 (4)

RE: Forced to agree. But I'm not a lawyer so I can't really say, but.... - rbolaw 07:14:44 09/12/15 (3)

It's much more factual than that - David Smith 12:01:08 09/12/15 (1)

RE: It's much more factual than that - rbolaw 13:18:30 09/12/15 (0)

The statement "John Marks is a fraud." does not seem to me to be... - Ivan303 10:10:12 09/12/15 (0)

RE: Oistrakh Szell Brahms case closed - John Marks is a fraud.

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