I don't believe you understood me.

Posted by Justlisten2 (A) on December 30, 2013 at 13:06:15

In Reply to: "means more than some gaudy, meaningless stats." posted by volunteer on December 30, 2013 at 11:25:45:

I never said that winning Super Bowls was all that mattered. What I did say was statistics are not all that matter either. It takes a special combination to be declared "Absolutely, Positively, Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt the Best QB Ever to Play the Game", as the OP did. First of all, I don't see anyone holding this title, but for me, if I had to choose, it would be Joe Montana, not Peyton Manning, Terry Bradshaw, Eli Manning or Big Ben.

Also, I think that Brady, Manning, Rogers, and Brees are more of a statement as to how the game has changed than they are about how QB's are better today that in yesteryear. Nowadays receivers and QB's are better protected by the rules of the game, which were designed to enhance the scoring. Back in the day, defenders were allowed to crush offensive players, not anymore.

You cannot judge a QB of today against a QB of 20-30 years ago anymore than you can judge baseball players from the dead ball and live ball eras. If anything, QB's of today are blessed to be playing the game in a time when the game shines it's focus on their position due to rule changes.

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Topic - "Peyton Manning is Absolutely, Positively, Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt the Best QB Ever to Play the Game" - regmac 16:29:25 12/29/13 (22)

Two words... - mkuller 08:31:08 12/30/13 (13)

RE: Two words... - geezerrocket 13:42:43 12/31/13 (0)

RE: Two words=post season - Awe-d-o-file 11:05:59 12/31/13 (2)

RE: Two words=post season - regmac 12:49:55 01/2/14 (0)

"The greatest cannot have these lackluster post season stats. " - Justlisten2 12:40:14 12/31/13 (0)

RE: "The Blind Side" - amioutaline? 12:22:14 12/30/13 (0)

RE: Two words... - regmac 09:39:31 12/30/13 (7)

You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - Justlisten2 13:30:47 12/30/13 (6)

RE: You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - regmac 15:18:45 12/30/13 (5)

RE: You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - Justlisten2 18:06:52 12/30/13 (4)

RE: You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - Justlisten2 06:41:37 12/31/13 (2)

RE: You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - regmac 08:51:32 12/31/13 (1)

RE: You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - Justlisten2 12:38:11 12/31/13 (0)

RE: You really cannot compare Joe Montana with Peyton Manning.... - regmac 20:48:26 12/30/13 (0)

ooh, there've been a LOT of top-notch quarterbacks - mhardy6647 03:40:05 12/30/13 (0)

Please remember that - kavakidd 23:35:30 12/29/13 (0)

LOL!! I would agree if there were no postseason games. - Justlisten2 23:09:41 12/29/13 (5)

"means more than some gaudy, meaningless stats." - volunteer 11:25:45 12/30/13 (3)

I don't believe you understood me. - Justlisten2 12/30/1313:06:15 12/30/13 (2)

"if I had to choose, it would be Joe Montana," - volunteer 13:16:10 12/30/13 (1)

Agreed. NT. - Justlisten2 13:19:43 12/30/13 (0)

the Lions Stafford has been crumbling lately, he looked so good at the start of the year - PhilJ 04:35:10 12/30/13 (0)

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I don't believe you understood me. - Justlisten2 12/30/1313:06:15 12/30/13 (2)

"if I had to choose, it would be Joe Montana," - volunteer 13:16:10 12/30/13 (1)

Agreed. NT. - Justlisten2 13:19:43 12/30/13 (0)

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