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In Reply to: RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... posted by Bob Neill on February 7, 2014 at 05:56:20:
Just speculating. I don't know the speakers at first hand but my experience tells me that $1700 or so speakers have their limitations.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - beppe61 23:14:32 02/5/14 (132)
- This kind of test... - mkuller 10:33:26 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Bob Neill 05:56:20 02/7/14 (7)
- good point nt. - budget fi 10:24:44 02/9/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Bob Neill 02/7/1407:52:50 02/7/14 (4)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - beppe61 08:25:09 02/7/14 (3)
- Bingo... - mkuller 10:22:52 02/8/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Bob Neill 10:13:54 02/7/14 (1)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - beppe61 00:29:16 02/8/14 (0)
- True. The speakers are fundamental - beppe61 07:01:25 02/7/14 (0)
- Fatigue & Inexperience Often At Fault - Jon Risch 22:38:44 02/6/14 (4)
- RE: Fatigue & Inexperience Often At Fault - jult52 13:27:35 02/8/14 (0)
- I am so lucky.... - BigguyinATL 13:19:30 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: Fatigue & Inexperience Often At Fault - beppe61 05:07:19 02/7/14 (0)
- That certainly seems to be The Amazing Randi's ace in the hole and why he never lost $1M. Nt - geoffkait 03:28:04 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Inmate51 18:45:00 02/6/14 (6)
- Let me explain better - beppe61 22:42:31 02/6/14 (0)
- Aren't you being a bit harsh with beppe?... - Steve O 19:30:24 02/6/14 (4)
- RE: Aren't you being a bit harsh with beppe?... - Inmate51 07:42:58 02/7/14 (3)
- I'm glad I caught you in a good mood... - Steve O 10:36:48 02/7/14 (0)
- I was triggered in some way from the post below about listening blindfolded bli - beppe61 08:40:24 02/7/14 (1)
- RE: I was triggered in some way from the post below about listening blindfolded bli - Inmate51 23:12:41 02/8/14 (0)
- wonder more at how our senses really work ... - tomservo 15:28:54 02/6/14 (29)
- McGurk effect = lip reading??? - Ugly 13:13:19 02/12/14 (3)
- RE: McGurk effect = lip reading??? - tomservo 18:00:44 02/12/14 (2)
- RE: McGurk effect = lip reading??? - Inmate51 06:23:27 02/13/14 (0)
- RE: McGurk effect = lip reading??? - Ugly 00:08:27 02/13/14 (0)
- " only closing your eyes lets you hear reality " - beppe61 07:13:51 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: wonder more at how our senses really work ... - Todd Krieger 00:24:17 02/7/14 (3)
- RE: wonder more at how our senses really work ... - Inmate51 09:02:51 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: wonder more at how our senses really work ... - tomservo 08:25:33 02/7/14 (1)
- RE: wonder more at how our senses really work ... - BigguyinATL 08:58:25 02/7/14 (0)
- Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - geoffkait 16:29:25 02/6/14 (19)
- "Poppy Crum" - you can't make something like that up, even if you tried. - carcass93 14:19:27 02/7/14 (3)
- RE: "Poppy Crum" - you can't make something like that up, even if you tried. - tomservo 19:40:18 02/7/14 (1)
- I did partially watch it, actually, 2 years ago - although I didn't really need to, .... - carcass93 19:53:07 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: "Poppy Crum" - you can't make something like that up, even if you tried. - geoffkait 14:41:10 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - tomservo 17:32:41 02/6/14 (14)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - geoffkait 17:41:52 02/6/14 (13)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - tomservo 06:51:20 02/7/14 (12)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - geoffkait 07:16:16 02/7/14 (11)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - tomservo 08:27:14 02/7/14 (10)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - Alan Sircom 16:04:27 02/8/14 (3)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - tomservo 07:54:19 02/10/14 (2)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - Inmate51 06:56:33 02/12/14 (0)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - Alan Sircom 15:43:05 02/10/14 (0)
- RE: Audio Myths Workshop by AES. Oh, boy, I can hardly wait. Nt - geoffkait 08:59:40 02/7/14 (5)
- AES workshop folderol? - Tre' 07:46:47 02/9/14 (3)
- RE: AES workshop folderol? - Inmate51 10:20:43 02/9/14 (0)
- RE: AES workshop folderol? - geoffkait 09:19:48 02/9/14 (1)
- RE: AES workshop folderol? - Tre' 11:09:02 02/9/14 (0)
- Wow, you actually wrote something - Inmate51 10:02:19 02/7/14 (0)
- Beppe, Thorsten's post, Alan Sircoms and my posts are all saying the same things - Timbo in Oz 13:44:46 02/6/14 (1)
- Yes and actually i find extremely interesting the link to the article in Stereophile - beppe61 03:03:44 02/7/14 (0)
- Listener/tester bias is an issue in system evaluation - G Squared 11:38:45 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: Listener/tester bias is an issue in system evaluation - beppe61 07:38:10 02/7/14 (0)
- While... - E-Stat 10:52:34 02/6/14 (3)
- RE: While... - beppe61 07:46:37 02/7/14 (2)
- RE: While... - E-Stat 09:45:55 02/7/14 (1)
- RE: While... - beppe61 00:33:52 02/8/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Thorsten 10:31:57 02/6/14 (14)
- Thank sincerely for the explanation Mr. Thorsten and one straight question - beppe61 23:00:12 02/6/14 (12)
- RE: Thank sincerely for the explanation Mr. Thorsten and one straight question - Thorsten 01:00:51 02/7/14 (11)
- Ohu ... i have to stop listening to digital - beppe61 02:07:43 02/7/14 (10)
- Surely You're Joking, Mr. Thorsten! - Thorsten 04:15:52 02/7/14 (2)
- My vote for post of the year! - RGA 23:01:08 02/11/14 (0)
- RE: Surely You're Joking, Mr. Thorsten! - beppe61 09:17:09 02/7/14 (0)
- Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - Thorsten 03:31:04 02/7/14 (6)
- RE: Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - beppe61 09:03:20 02/7/14 (5)
- RE: Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - Thorsten 10:25:30 02/7/14 (4)
- RE: Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - beppe61 02:32:42 02/8/14 (3)
- RE: Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - Thorsten 03:45:41 02/8/14 (2)
- RE: Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - beppe61 05:48:03 02/8/14 (1)
- RE: Not neccessarily, not even Solid State... - Thorsten 06:56:05 02/8/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - RGA 21:48:00 02/6/14 (0)
- Human ABX ... and humorous horsey business .. - bjh 09:43:27 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: Human ABX ... and humorous horsey business .. - beppe61 09:27:54 02/7/14 (0)
- Harry Pearson once asked his listening panel to compare an amplifier.... - mwhitmore 09:41:40 02/6/14 (11)
- RE: Harry Pearson once asked his listening panel to compare an amplifier.... - orthophonic 11:28:57 02/7/14 (1)
- When was that? - E-Stat 12:50:53 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: Harry Pearson once asked his listening panel to compare an amplifier.... - beppe61 09:54:39 02/7/14 (0)
- RE: Harry Pearson once asked his listening panel to compare an amplifier.... - Inmate51 15:21:26 02/6/14 (0)
- Do cite your source - E-Stat 10:45:35 02/6/14 (4)
- It was TAS - mwhitmore 11:51:18 02/6/14 (3)
- I think you have your story confused -nt - E-Stat 12:01:34 02/6/14 (2)
- Ahhh...! but it was such a catchy story! Party pooper!!! :( nt - bjh 13:21:33 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: Ahhh...! but it was such a catchy story! Party pooper!!! :( nt - E-Stat 13:29:36 02/6/14 (0)
- Sample variation? Not uncommon. N/T - carcass93 09:59:06 02/6/14 (1)
- No, no---the *same* amp. - mwhitmore 10:07:59 02/6/14 (0)
- "reach your own conclussion" - I have. Looks like participants had a good time. - carcass93 09:26:49 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: "reach your own conclussion" - I have. Looks like participants had a good time. - beppe61 09:34:18 02/7/14 (0)
- I'm not so sure what this test proves - Goober58 08:53:28 02/6/14 (4)
- exactly, - BigguyinATL 10:39:48 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: I'm not so sure what this test proves - beppe61 09:27:51 02/6/14 (2)
- RE: I'm not so sure what this test proves - Goober58 10:24:39 02/6/14 (1)
- I completely agree - beppe61 08:50:47 02/7/14 (0)
- This "Test" Didn't Show Anything.... (Long) - Todd Krieger 08:21:24 02/6/14 (7)
- Sorry ... how can i know for sure if a system in connected in phase or not ? - beppe61 09:33:11 02/6/14 (2)
- RE: Sorry ... how can i know for sure if a system in connected in phase or not ? - Todd Krieger 10:05:50 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: Sorry ... how can i know for sure if a system in connected in phase or not ? - beppe61 10:40:20 02/6/14 (0)
- Wow ... thanks for the very complete and valuable reply - beppe61 09:15:20 02/6/14 (0)
- Settle down counselor! - bjh 09:03:58 02/6/14 (2)
- As I wrote below, I asked YOU to define a statistically valid DBT. - Timbo in Oz 14:30:08 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: As I wrote below, I asked YOU to define a statistically valid DBT. - bjh 14:33:20 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Mike K 07:01:47 02/6/14 (2)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - geoffkait 08:00:38 02/6/14 (0)
- "they should be trying to identify the system/component whose sound they prefer " - beppe61 07:10:40 02/6/14 (0)
- For their own sake I hope those who could not distinguish a difference are "completely objectivist". - bjh 06:52:14 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: For their own sake I hope those who could not distinguish a difference are "completely objectivist". - beppe61 09:31:36 02/6/14 (0)
- Ya gotta respect the photo of the DBT participants concentrating. LOL. Nt - geoffkait 05:27:54 02/6/14 (7)
- Actually, that would be SBT - E-Stat 10:48:53 02/6/14 (0)
- Looks like an the first and last audio club meeting I attended. nt - Goober58 08:56:32 02/6/14 (0)
- One guy is so upset he's peeing on the speaker - nt - AbeCollins 08:23:41 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: Ya gotta respect the photo of the DBT participants concentrating. LOL. Nt - beppe61 06:19:19 02/6/14 (0)
- Fortunately, they failed the test - kerr 05:58:41 02/6/14 (2)
- Moral: never eat chili dogs just before a DBT. - geoffkait 06:05:09 02/6/14 (1)
- Give me chili dogs, spare me the DBT's - kerr 08:24:21 02/7/14 (0)
- Conclusion: Solid State Uniformly Sucks.. - Larry I 04:44:44 02/6/14 (2)
- RE: Conclusion: Solid State Uniformly Sucks.. - TWB2 17:26:07 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: Conclusion: Solid State Uniformly Sucks.. - beppe61 06:31:33 02/6/14 (0)
- Why don't the folk who ran the tests tell us what the value of alpha and beta were for this test - Timbo in Oz 03:17:40 02/6/14 (9)
- Actually, it doesn't matter. - geoffkait 07:40:09 02/6/14 (2)
- ABX is determinedly type 2 error prone. - Timbo in Oz 12:12:49 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: Actually, it doesn't matter. - middleground 09:40:57 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: Why don't the folk who ran the tests tell us what the value of alpha and beta were for this test - middleground 05:06:06 02/6/14 (3)
- Search on objectivity here against my posting name, and there you will have it - Timbo in Oz 13:00:41 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: Why don't the folk who ran the tests tell us what the value of alpha and beta were for this test - Alan Sircom 10:14:07 02/6/14 (1)
- RE: Why don't the folk who ran the tests tell us what the value of alpha and beta were for this test - John Atkinson 16:47:51 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: Why don't the folk who ran the tests tell us what the value of alpha and beta were for this test - beppe61 03:44:15 02/6/14 (1)
- Well, then if you don't know enough about hypothesis testing to know what I am writing about. - Timbo in Oz 12:03:29 02/6/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - morricab 00:33:42 02/6/14 (2)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Todd Krieger 09:38:19 02/6/14 (0)
- So look can be deceiving ... - beppe61 03:31:12 02/6/14 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Bob Neill 02/7/1407:52:50 02/7/14 (4)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - beppe61 08:25:09 02/7/14 (3)
- Bingo... - mkuller 10:22:52 02/8/14 (0)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - Bob Neill 10:13:54 02/7/14 (1)
- RE: These are the tests that really make me wonder ... - beppe61 00:29:16 02/8/14 (0)