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In Reply to: RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at posted by goober58 on October 26, 2011 at 08:58:19:
So the reviewer got them right! Good for him. Tha'ts reallly hard to do. That is, doing it with one word. I used to try that and batted around .500. Which ain't bad for someone who takes writing more seriously than sound.
As I say in response to Frihed, a lot of folks WANT their systems to have a personality that can be captured in adjectives, which is what keeps alot of the charming, liquid smooth, superfast, diplomatic, assertitve, and "sophisticated" gear on the market. The living room is not the concert hall and most really ambitious attempts to really get concert hall realism into the living room are monstrosities. Getting the flavor of reality without overt distortion and coloration is a reasonable goal I would think. And you can do that with fairly objective design and then some tactful monkeying around with spatial presentation.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Does anyone else take most comments about how something sounds as being a negative... - goober58 17:39:02 10/25/11 (123)
- RE: Does anyone else take most comments about how something sounds as being a negative... - thebordas 12:22:47 11/2/11 (0)
- If you... - genungo 03:50:40 10/29/11 (9)
- Nobody said there was anything wrong with it! - goober58 11:18:47 10/29/11 (8)
- You have no way of knowing if your system has no "sonic character"... - genungo 17:17:10 10/29/11 (2)
- I hope people know what their systems sound like? - goober58 18:18:15 10/29/11 (1)
- Ok, I give up... - genungo 19:23:17 10/29/11 (0)
- RE: Nobody said there was anything wrong with it! - lord addleford 12:01:46 10/29/11 (1)
- This approach? - goober58 17:21:49 10/29/11 (0)
- RE: Nobody said there was anything wrong with it! - lord addleford 11:59:04 10/29/11 (2)
- Words can only get in the way. Silence is Golden. - genungo 07:53:17 10/30/11 (1)
- RE: Words can only get in the way. Silence is Golden. - lord addleford 16:35:40 10/30/11 (0)
- RE: Does anyone else take most comments about how something sounds as being a negative... - lord addleford 19:33:57 10/28/11 (0)
- Exactly what is it about your sytem that makes the music YOU like sound good to you on it? - genungo 18:30:44 10/27/11 (11)
- RE: Exactly what is it about your sytem that makes the music YOU like sound good to you on it? - goober58 10:39:54 10/28/11 (8)
- It's "reasonable" sound you're after? You can't stand superlatives? - genungo 11:13:37 10/28/11 (7)
- Well what's the point of a superlative? - goober58 12:28:50 10/28/11 (6)
- There's no "good", "better", "best" ? - genungo 15:39:37 10/28/11 (5)
- Who said that? - goober58 16:28:16 10/28/11 (4)
- So, your "good" might be "better" than someone else's "best" ? (nt) - genungo 17:14:43 10/28/11 (3)
- Most definitely! Conversely my good could be someone elses sucks - goober58 11:27:31 10/29/11 (2)
- And, so... - genungo 17:20:06 10/29/11 (1)
- RE: And, so... - goober58 18:08:31 10/29/11 (0)
- Whatever he describes will sound negative! ~t - three_sox 01:38:05 10/28/11 (1)
- Oh, well... - genungo 05:12:42 10/28/11 (0)
- RE: Does anyone else take most comments about how something sounds as being a negative... - IEaudiodude 13:54:23 10/26/11 (0)
- I take them as something... - Jim Treanor 09:11:11 10/26/11 (0)
- No, but comments about comments are pointless. nt - tinear 08:10:07 10/26/11 (3)
- So what would that make yer post, pointed or pointless? ^ - Road Warrior 15:08:58 10/26/11 (0)
- Then commenting about comments about comments would be? - rick_m 08:27:06 10/26/11 (1)
- And commenting about commenting about comments about comments would be? - goober58 10:28:59 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: Does anyone else take most comments about how something sounds as being a negative... - soulfood 07:34:10 10/26/11 (6)
- Do you adjust speaker positioning and eq for each recording? nt - goober58 10:30:31 10/26/11 (5)
- Nope. What would happen? -nt - soulfood 11:40:21 10/26/11 (4)
- Well you being a venue critic and all I would think that would be important to you - goober58 12:31:48 10/26/11 (3)
- One has nothing to do with the other. - soulfood 13:43:24 10/26/11 (2)
- Loudspeaker position can everything to do with the realistic... - goober58 13:52:14 10/26/11 (1)
- Do you change positions for every song? -nt - soulfood 14:29:00 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: Does anyone else take most comments about how something sounds as being a negative... - FM 05:53:46 10/26/11 (5)
- If murky rolled off stereo gave the most musically satisfying lifelike listening experiences who would listen? - goober58 10:36:40 10/26/11 (4)
- By definition a system set up to do its best on real stereo will do the best possible job it can do - Timbo in Oz 18:09:03 10/26/11 (3)
- Again the this is the real world not an ideal one - goober58 18:48:06 10/26/11 (2)
- I see the problem the other way around that at the core of your doubts and the uncertainty of - Timbo in Oz 19:30:56 10/26/11 (1)
- No it's a leap of faith that doesn't ring true - goober58 13:36:12 10/27/11 (0)
- here's a review of some italian speakers - with a difference - jeromelang 04:52:12 10/26/11 (3)
- Yes I agree - goober58 10:39:21 10/26/11 (2)
- Of course it is, why do you need to ask? - Timbo in Oz 18:15:09 10/26/11 (1)
- Doh! Because listening to music is different than identifying recording differences! - goober58 19:01:30 10/26/11 (0)
- {{There is no sonic description that works for music - IMO they all just describe the sound of the system.}} - three_sox 02:25:21 10/26/11 (3)
- No lets not.... - goober58 11:17:42 10/26/11 (2)
- {{{I have other things to do and better, faster more direct ways to get them done to my liking.}}} - three_sox 05:48:13 10/27/11 (1)
- No enjoying my recordings is a heck of alot more fun than whining about the state of the industry - goober58 11:34:29 10/27/11 (0)
- "... they all just describe the sound of the system" - genungo 01:31:08 10/26/11 (10)
- See that's problem - goober58 11:19:16 10/26/11 (9)
- Trust? - genungo 14:10:12 10/26/11 (8)
- Very well said - Bill the K 20:12:13 10/26/11 (3)
- RE: Very well said - goober58 11:41:24 10/27/11 (2)
- RE: Very well said - Bill the K 20:43:06 10/27/11 (1)
- RE: Very well said - goober58 16:14:39 10/28/11 (0)
- Exackerly!! :-)) .... - andyr 15:08:54 10/26/11 (3)
- It happens ! - genungo 16:32:09 10/26/11 (2)
- RE: It happens ! - josh358 18:05:55 10/26/11 (1)
- I felt that way about ... - reelsmith. 18:52:23 10/26/11 (0)
- Sounds of..... - Frihed89 23:11:56 10/25/11 (5)
- Yea well... - goober58 10:07:22 10/26/11 (4)
- Actually - Frihed89 20:36:43 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: Yea well... - KnobSpinner 10:32:54 10/26/11 (2)
- I am the OP and... - goober58 13:01:06 10/26/11 (1)
- RE: I am the OP and... - AudioSoul 17:16:26 10/26/11 (0)
- Short of perfect reproduction, everything else is negative, is amusical, and should be .... - viridian 20:09:13 10/25/11 (1)
- That's a real problem for me.. - goober58 20:32:25 10/25/11 (0)
- OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - josh358 18:39:22 10/25/11 (12)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - goober58 18:57:07 10/25/11 (11)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - josh358 19:06:04 10/25/11 (10)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - goober58 20:27:00 10/25/11 (9)
- should we take your descriptions of the sound you like to be negative? - Analog Scott 10:22:51 10/26/11 (1)
- Of course... - goober58 13:18:02 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - josh358 07:02:36 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - Bob Neill 04:09:17 10/26/11 (5)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - goober58 08:58:19 10/26/11 (2)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - Bob Neill 10/26/1109:11:45 10/26/11 (1)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - goober58 11:21:25 10/28/11 (0)
- I agree, but - Frihed89 07:25:11 10/26/11 (1)
- RE: I agree, but - Bob Neill 09:00:50 10/26/11 (0)
- What words would you take as positive? (NT) - Kal Rubinson 17:42:36 10/25/11 (39)
- Here are a few :-) - Brian Walsh 23:54:34 10/25/11 (3)
- I've always liked that song... - kerr 12:21:16 10/26/11 (2)
- none - goober58 18:10:50 10/25/11 (34)
- That's what I figured. - Kal Rubinson 05:57:57 10/26/11 (30)
- RE: That's what I figured. - goober58 09:10:32 10/26/11 (29)
- The musical experience? - Kal Rubinson 10:29:22 10/26/11 (28)
- RE: The musical experience? - goober58 11:12:39 10/26/11 (27)
- Huh ? ... - reelsmith. 15:32:10 10/26/11 (4)
- To me it's funny - goober58 15:54:26 10/26/11 (3)
- Wrong again. - Kal Rubinson 19:23:05 10/26/11 (2)
- I hear it all the time - goober58 11:29:55 10/27/11 (1)
- Confirmed: You cannot read. - Kal Rubinson 12:37:14 10/27/11 (0)
- RE: The musical experience? - Kal Rubinson 13:33:55 10/26/11 (21)
- RE: The musical experience? - Jive Turkey 17:23:46 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: The musical experience? - goober58 15:50:23 10/26/11 (19)
- ???? - Kal Rubinson 18:54:34 10/26/11 (3)
- Just a second there pal! - goober58 11:18:25 10/27/11 (1)
- Stop wasting our time. - Kal Rubinson 12:41:24 10/27/11 (0)
- "You need to learn to read more carefully. " - Timbo in Oz 22:32:41 10/26/11 (0)
- RE: The musical experience? - josh358 18:00:54 10/26/11 (14)
- I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - goober58 14:09:42 10/27/11 (13)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - josh358 14:38:38 10/27/11 (12)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - soulfood 16:13:58 10/27/11 (9)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - josh358 16:24:41 10/27/11 (8)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - soulfood 17:51:57 10/27/11 (7)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - josh358 18:14:15 10/27/11 (6)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - soulfood 20:12:38 10/27/11 (5)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - josh358 06:07:44 10/28/11 (4)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - soulfood 10:10:00 10/28/11 (3)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - josh358 10:18:34 10/28/11 (2)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - soulfood 11:51:21 10/28/11 (1)
- RE: I think that's a pretty good reason for buying a nice stereo - josh358 12:25:57 10/28/11 (0)
- 55 incher - goober58 14:54:58 10/27/11 (1)
- RE: 55 incher - josh358 15:16:17 10/27/11 (0)
- The pure "thing in itself", eh? Nt - Frihed89 23:13:09 10/25/11 (2)
- eh? nt - goober58 12:13:02 10/26/11 (1)
- Platonist/realist...nt - Frihed89 20:31:32 10/26/11 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - Bob Neill 10/26/1109:11:45 10/26/11 (1)
- RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at - goober58 11:21:25 10/28/11 (0)