There is one thing I can agree with John Atkinson about and that is that James Randi seems to like peppering his articles with untruths. One of the latest being "I have news. Mr Belt is getting rich."
Wow ! That's news to me. How could I have missed that major event, seeing as how I have been married to Peter for the past 51 years ?
Randi goes on to further say that "we sell to naive audiophiles." I think calling our customers naive couldn't be further from the truth. I personally would place them in the category of braver than brave after witnessing the amount of mockery and ridicule which is aimed at them from all sides !I would also counsel John not to be jerked around by James Randi as though he (John) was a puppet on a string. There are a multitude of things which Randi can chose from to be constantly challenging from within the world of audio and from within the pages of Stereophile. When he gets bored with one thing, he can easily find another to jump on and he can just go on and on. I am presuming he has already become bored with the Shakti Stone and when he becomes bored with Peter Belt, he can chose from numerous other things. One of them might be the painting the edge of CDs with the Green Pen - which you described, John, as improving the sound but, ended your description with 'don't anyone ask you for an explanation'. Or maybe another thing for Randi to cast his eye on could be Dr. Chow's cable jacket. Or maybe another thing could be cables themselves - or (probably your worst nightmare John) - cryogenic freezing - the list could be endless.
I see you are quite keen to find proof of how you have "poured scorn on Belt devices". I personally would have thought you would have been far more cautious than that. I appreciate your wish is to show proof that James Randi has lied about such matters but in the long term you might find yourself in the position of the proverbial "between a rock and a hard place". Because history is a far harsher judge than any of the James Randis of this world. You are most likely to find yourself linked more with what I call the "Dr Hughes Bennett syndrome" From the history of Joseph Lister around 100 years ago when Dr Hughes Bennett is quoted as saying "Where are the germs ? Show them to us and we will believe. Has anybody seen these germs ?" And many of Lister's fellow doctors and surgeons were quoted as mockingly saying "Shut the door quickly, or Professor Lister's germs will get in".
To quote from the 1882, 3rd annual meeting of the American Surgical Association - "the anti-listerians were in the majority, some publicly rejecting the germ theory". - some 15 years after Lister performed his first antiseptic treatments !!!I don't know if you will have the courage to re-print Alvin Gold's 1987 article in a similar archive form as you have re-printed J Gordon Holt's article on Peter Belt but I can let you have a copy of Alvin's article if you can't find yours !
Regards,
May Belt.
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Topic - The JR Syndrome - May Belt 10:06:18 11/1/05 (50)
- Re: Are you your husband? - Guy 01:56:26 11/2/05 (4)
- Re: Are you your husband? - May Belt 02:53:45 11/2/05 (3)
- Re: You missed the point.... - Guy 03:08:10 11/2/05 (2)
- Re: You missed the point.... - May Belt 03:37:45 11/2/05 (1)
- Re: You missed the point....then I can safely conclude... - Guy 03:47:45 11/2/05 (0)
- All you have to do is prove your products work. - Pat D 22:19:08 11/1/05 (2)
- Can you even *prove* to us you exist? (nt) - mkuller 09:49:37 11/2/05 (0)
- To whom? You? --- What would be the point? And who *are* you to put such a demand? Etc. etc. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:00:05 11/2/05 (0)
- Don't forget--the great "scientist " James Randi... - Bill Leebens 19:01:20 11/1/05 (0)
- The Amazing Randi! - Godzilla. 14:36:35 11/1/05 (0)
- You know, science, its methods, and its understanding have progressed since 1882. - jsm 13:20:56 11/1/05 (7)
- I think May's point is simply... - Wellfed 13:29:23 11/1/05 (6)
- Re: I think May's point is simply...simple. Simplistic. Simple-minded. - Guy 03:09:53 11/2/05 (0)
- Re: I think May's point is simply... - hahax@rcn.com 20:08:59 11/1/05 (2)
- Re: I think May's point is simply... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 02:07:13 11/2/05 (1)
- But nobody laughed when it was suggested UV and IR radiation existed. - jsm 10:32:22 11/3/05 (0)
- And some so called "discoveries" . . . - Ivor the Engine Driver 13:32:44 11/1/05 (1)
- I don't think that was part of her point. ;-) [nt] - Wellfed 13:37:36 11/1/05 (0)
- John Atkinson scorn... - Wellfed 12:41:12 11/1/05 (20)
- This is a troll, right? - Feanor 06:35:31 11/5/05 (1)
- Crazy good is what I'd say Bill... - Wellfed 07:24:09 11/5/05 (0)
- Re: John Atkinson scorn... - unclestu52 02:15:00 11/2/05 (2)
- Re: John Atkinson scorn... - May Belt 04:31:50 11/2/05 (1)
- Re: John Atkinson scorn... - unclestu52 10:44:01 11/2/05 (0)
- First the I-Chip, now the Clever Clock... - B. King 17:29:17 11/1/05 (9)
- "...dramatic improvement upon stunning effectiveness. How much more can we expect?" Claims of Perfect Sound Forever..? - Tom Dawson 11:08:17 11/2/05 (2)
- Willful self-delusion seems to be the domain... - Wellfed 13:31:00 11/2/05 (1)
- ...not at all - Tom Dawson 14:46:21 11/2/05 (0)
- Gosh, what did audio systems sound like before Kait, Baybee and Belt? - Caymus 18:43:32 11/1/05 (4)
- Their aspirations don't seem very Nobel to me. [nt] - Wellfed 18:59:29 11/1/05 (0)
- I guess the rest of us should go back to Sanyo... - B. King 18:59:08 11/1/05 (2)
- Do I hear violins playing in the background? [nt] - Wellfed 19:01:51 11/1/05 (1)
- I can't tell w/o the Chip and the Clock. nt - B. King 19:03:48 11/1/05 (0)
- I don't know... - Wellfed 17:35:06 11/1/05 (0)
- Re: Clever Little Clock - Stephæn 13:03:37 11/1/05 (4)
- Stephaen, a quick PX-25 vs. Yamamoto 45 question... - darkmoebius 19:38:33 11/1/05 (1)
- Re: Stephaen, a quick PX-25 vs. Yamamoto 45 question... - Stephæn 21:09:51 11/1/05 (0)
- Here's the link... - Wellfed 13:20:45 11/1/05 (1)
- Thanks! (mt) - Stephæn 13:28:45 11/1/05 (0)
- There was one difference, ma'am. - Silver Eared John 11:55:26 11/1/05 (0)
- Re: The JR Syndrome - bjh 10:57:59 11/1/05 (9)
- Re: The JR Syndrome - May Belt 11:36:05 11/1/05 (8)
- Re: The JR Syndrome - bjh 12:47:42 11/1/05 (5)
- Re: Issue 21 - geoffkait 12:57:03 11/1/05 (4)
- Summarizing ... - bjh 14:02:36 11/1/05 (0)
- Disturbing actually ... - bjh 13:33:33 11/1/05 (1)
- Haven't you ever heard of poetic license? ;-) [nt] - Wellfed 13:39:46 11/1/05 (0)
- That's interesting, ... - bjh 13:22:30 11/1/05 (0)
- Glad you're here! This hobby needs more women! Even really old ones who are completely nuts! - Jake_LA 11:57:03 11/1/05 (1)
- Unfortunately, there's no shortage of incredibly-rude unregistered posters. (nt) - Bill Leebens 19:10:14 11/1/05 (0)