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RE: Are you serious Analog Scott ?

> > "The most likely reason for percieved audible differences with Belt products is bias effects.

That is not a universal truth among all percieved audible differences." < <

Now we come to the main theme of so many of your 'postings' and of your numerous responses to me, particularly, over the years !!

Obviously no investigations done - straight bias (regarding Belt products and techniques) on your part !! But, hedging your bets on some other products and techniques.

> > "You have chosen to invent mechanisms of causation that are in direct conflict with known physics." < <

And you know this HOW ?? To state what you have just done, you MUST have done your own investigations into ALL the known physics - after all you are SO definite in your conclusion !!
After all, you used the expression "In Direct Conflict with known physics". Which KNOWN physics did YOU actually investigate to come to that conclusion ?

This is what I mean by rigidity.

Rigidity in the face of one unusual thing after another being reported as unexpectedly changing the sound - over the past 30 years - and is STILL happening. Why do you think that is ?? Might it possibly be that there could - actually - be things happening in the modern environment which could be having an adverse effect on the 'sound' ? And, as counter to that, there could be things which could reduce those adverse effects ??

The explanation YOU put forward most of the time is that such things work because of 'bias' on the part of the listener. (note your own words 'most obvious possibility').

> > "tests for the most obvious possibility, that being bias effects" < <

With yet another person it is "the most obvious possibility is 'auto-suggestion' "
With yet another person it is "the most obvious possibility is 'the placebo-effect' "
With yet another person it is "the most obvious possibility is 'effective marketing'"

And so on, repeatedly over these past 30 years.

With such as Ethan Winer it is "the placebo effect or Fraud" !!
With such as Steve Eddy it is "mental illness" !!
With such as Enophile it is "people needing a potion, an elixir, a ritual".

And with Jim Austin (which is how this particular thread started in the first pl\ace) it is
"Not enough scepticism"

> "some prominent industry folks have consistently failed to maintain a sufficiently skeptical posture" <".

And claiming "some reviewers"

> > "seem eager to prostitute themselves for the latest preposterous product" < <

Tell us, Analog Scott, what other unusual techniques and devices have YOU actually tried (as opposed to just reading about) which have given you improvements in your sound ?

To start you off with a simple one.
Have you investigated the effect on the sound of cryogenic freezing of bits and pieces, components, wires etc. ?

Or maybe the latest topic under discussion on the 'Tweaks' section - the effect on the sound from various Crystals ?

You see, Analog Scott, if Peter Belt had never been born, you would STILL have to be having to 'deal with explaining the effect' of a multitude of other unusual techniques and devices !!

How are you going to do that without resorting repeatedly to your "bias" explanation ????

Use "bias" explanation for Tweak No. 1. ? "Autosuggestion" for Tweak No. 2 ? "The Placebo Effect" for Tweak No 3 ? "Effective marketing" for Tweak No 4 ?

The problem (of explaining) has not gone away over these last 30 years - it has actually got stronger !! You might choose to dismiss Belt devices and techniques but you still have 'to deal' with the' effect on the sound' of a multitude of other devices and techniques which are accumulating !!

As I have replied to Jim Austin. The problems (of explaining) are STILL on the blackboard - waiting for answers - they haven't gone away just because you may choose to dismiss Belt devices !!

Regards,
May Belt,
Manufacturer.


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