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Topic - OK: Please list all the "bad" products - John Marks 14:45:32 01/30/06 (187)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - RGA 11:52:24 02/7/06 (0)

A modest proposal - Larry I 07:29:15 02/1/06 (6)

Well OK, but let's keep it relevant, - bjh 11:37:05 02/1/06 (0)

LET 550 FLOWERS BLOOM!!!!! Important--Please Read & Bored Please Read - John Marks 07:45:32 02/1/06 (4)

I'm bored. - Bruce from DC 12:47:01 02/1/06 (2)

Re: I'm bored. - regmac 16:37:08 02/1/06 (1)

I think the word I'm looking for is "caritas." (nt) - Bruce from DC 06:08:35 02/2/06 (0)

I was just kidding. . . - Larry I 09:18:19 02/1/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - ril 20:48:56 01/31/06 (1)

I don't think of ATC as "prosumer" - John Marks 04:53:45 02/1/06 (0)

No attempt to clearly differentiate between good, very good and excellent products -- here's how to review objectively - Richard BassNut Greene 07:50:03 01/31/06 (63)

A More Positive View - andy19191 15:25:08 01/31/06 (0)

I don't need or want to be told what best - lancelot 12:15:47 01/31/06 (1)

Thanks for your kind words - John Marks 15:41:18 01/31/06 (0)

Wires... - mkuller 10:36:02 01/31/06 (30)

I'll bet two cents that was a typical high-end PHONY "blind review" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:11:19 02/1/06 (29)

Walter Swanbon and Clark Johnsen, tested by Dr. Philip Green. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:56:17 02/1/06 (1)

Care to tell us ANY details at all ... or do you have something to hide? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:52:42 02/3/06 (0)

Ok, Mr. Nut, time to shut up... - mkuller 11:59:35 02/1/06 (24)

I think you must be reading between the lines - Richard BassNut Greene 12:15:10 02/1/06 (23)

Then pull out your copy... - mkuller 16:07:42 02/1/06 (22)

You were data mining ... and wrong. ... I'll be kind enough to help you understand the data in the article - Richard BassNut Greene 07:50:53 02/2/06 (10)

Re: You were data mining ... and wrong. ... I'll be kind enough to help you understand the data in the article - regmac 12:21:38 02/2/06 (0)

Your response should not surprise anyone... - mkuller 12:16:48 02/2/06 (8)

Let's review the blind wire test objectively (without cherry picking the one sentence that you really liked ) - Richard BassNut Greene 07:46:30 02/3/06 (3)

Thanks for your spin on the test, Mr. Nut..... - mkuller 14:12:06 02/3/06 (2)

You're welcome! ... I hoped you learned something today - Richard BassNut Greene 14:30:12 02/3/06 (1)

No, again you're wrong... - mkuller 15:05:53 02/4/06 (0)

And if you want... - mkuller 14:32:16 02/2/06 (0)

"This is about the only published DBT of speaker wires I'm aware of. It's from 1983" - Ivan303 12:46:45 02/2/06 (2)

Nice try, but... - mkuller 13:44:36 02/2/06 (1)

Re: Nice try, but... - Ivan303 14:04:50 02/2/06 (0)

Re: Then pull out your copy... - andy19191 01:41:16 02/2/06 (0)

So we now have conclusive evidence.... - Ivan303 17:45:04 02/1/06 (9)

Stereo review's policy on wires , verses Hot Rod's. - beach cruiser 12:21:42 02/2/06 (0)

"Looks like it's time to upgrade my cables!" - bjh 19:09:48 02/1/06 (7)

Re: "it's time for Nut to STFU!" - Ivan303 06:36:14 02/2/06 (6)

Funny, I read the same thing. - bwkendall 13:34:44 02/2/06 (0)

Cute! - bjh 08:07:31 02/2/06 (4)

Thanks, - Ivan303 08:35:09 02/2/06 (3)

The Nut will never STFU, ... - bjh 09:00:54 02/2/06 (2)

So ... want to join my fan club? - Richard BassNut Greene 09:36:56 02/2/06 (1)

Ah, makes me look bad? Perhaps in the eyes of Mr. Nut fans, but what care I what fools think? LOL nt - bjh 11:58:50 02/2/06 (0)

Re: I'll bet two cents that was a typical high-end PHONY "blind review" - regmac 08:05:55 02/1/06 (1)

Re: I'll bet two cents that was a typical high-end PHONY "blind review" - Pat D 13:07:42 02/2/06 (0)

Re: a "quick" read - Bruce from DC 10:03:28 01/31/06 (1)

Re: a "quick" read - RGA 12:15:36 02/7/06 (0)

Deep sigh - John Marks 10:00:11 01/31/06 (0)

Some examples, please - John Atkinson 09:07:14 01/31/06 (24)

500+ Recommended Components is not a useful list -- it takes courage to pick the top 5% or 10% -- do you have courage? - Richard BassNut Greene 10:10:15 01/31/06 (23)

Asshole! nt - bjh 11:10:40 01/31/06 (7)

???????????????????? nt - Ivan303 11:20:38 01/31/06 (6)

That's my honest reaction - bjh 11:44:56 01/31/06 (5)

Are you are referring to JA ( I assume) ? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:50:36 02/1/06 (1)

Do yourself a favor. - bwkendall 15:23:17 02/2/06 (0)

Petulant twit - mt10425 11:52:43 01/31/06 (2)

Would it be presumptuous of me to surmise you're one who watches auto races just to see the wrecks? nt - bjh 11:57:46 01/31/06 (1)

Yes, it would. - mt10425 12:01:40 01/31/06 (1)

Re: 500+ Recommended Components is not a useful list -- it takes courage to pick the top 5% or 10% -- do you have courag - John Atkinson 10:59:13 01/31/06 (11)

Entire defense of the 500+ item list = "But I don't feel it needs to be pared down" (that's it?) - Richard BassNut Greene 08:10:30 02/1/06 (0)

Apparently, it is a position that a group of people feel needs to be filled. - bwkendall 17:04:18 01/31/06 (4)

Please provide details on your strong character attack on me - Richard BassNut Greene 08:18:14 02/1/06 (3)

Per your request. - bwkendall 08:33:22 02/1/06 (2)

I defend my advice because it would have led to a fair result - Richard BassNut Greene 09:01:22 02/1/06 (1)

Neither does a manufacturer or consumer... - mkuller 10:33:32 02/1/06 (0)

A lot of lazy people out there - Larry I 16:22:25 01/31/06 (0)

Re: 500+ Recommended Components is not a useful list -- it takes courage to pick the top 5% or 10% -- do you have courag - chris keating 14:42:28 01/31/06 (1)

The 500+ list is relative to perhaps 5 products tested each month (not to all audio products available to the public) - Richard BassNut Greene 08:26:25 02/1/06 (0)

Aparently he has a big one... - mkuller 13:13:08 01/31/06 (0)

OK, I guess it was worth it. The wait for your reply, I mean. You *almost* but not quite called him a ninnie. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:34:56 01/31/06 (0)

Re: 500+ Recommended Components is not a useful list -- it takes courage to pick the top 5% or 10% -- do you have courag - Enophile 10:48:44 01/31/06 (0)

John: Personally I would neither "huff" nor "puff" nor even dignify the above post with a reply. The man clearly has... - clarkjohnsen 10:32:46 01/31/06 (1)

I'll give you credit for one thing: A good sense of humor! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:43 02/1/06 (0)

Re: No attempt to clearly differentiate between good, very good and excellent products -- here's how to review objectiv - bjh 08:20:23 01/31/06 (0)

Great challenge - Larry I 07:24:43 01/31/06 (0)

Sorry, I should have been more precise - John Marks 07:09:14 01/31/06 (0)

Intelligent Chips, colored pebbles, wooden disks . . . - Pat D 00:11:07 01/31/06 (22)

Re: Intelligent Chips, colored pebbles, wooden disks . . . - thetubeguy1954 11:27:55 02/1/06 (13)

Hey man, - bjh 12:08:15 02/1/06 (12)

Re: Hey man, - thetubeguy1954 14:00:18 02/1/06 (11)

Re: Hey man, - Pat D 18:32:21 02/1/06 (4)

Please Explain More - thetubeguy1954 05:44:08 02/2/06 (3)

Re: Please Explain More - Pat D 12:25:45 02/2/06 (2)

Re: Please Explain More - thetubeguy1954 12:50:55 02/2/06 (1)

Re: Please Explain More - Pat D 16:05:39 02/2/06 (0)

Re: Hey man, - bjh 14:09:31 02/1/06 (5)

Re: Hey man, - thetubeguy1954 14:38:41 02/1/06 (4)

There you go again, - bjh 15:15:52 02/1/06 (3)

Re: There you go again, - thetubeguy1954 06:34:12 02/2/06 (2)

Ok, we're talking all about *you* again, well then let me add the observation that you have ... - bjh 12:09:30 02/2/06 (1)

Re: Ok, we're talking all about *you* again, well then let me add the observation that you have ... - thetubeguy1954 14:18:33 02/2/06 (0)

You've heard them ALL??... And they ALL "sound bad"?? - clarkjohnsen 10:28:21 01/31/06 (6)

They don't do much of anything to the sound as far as anyone has been able to prove. - Pat D 18:31:50 01/31/06 (5)

You were invited to name "bad-sounding" products. You named things you hadn't heard. SO VERY TYPICAL. You relied on... - clarkjohnsen 10:07:14 02/1/06 (3)

You should learn to read what's there, Clark. - Pat D 15:08:10 02/1/06 (0)

Re: You were invited to name "bad-sounding" products. You named things you hadn't heard. SO VERY TYPICAL. You relied on. - bjh 13:25:06 02/1/06 (1)

'm ashamed of myself... nt - clarkjohnsen 13:57:32 02/1/06 (0)

Bad on the finances???... - Wellfed 23:02:33 01/31/06 (0)

OK - John Marks 07:12:31 01/31/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - andy_c 22:17:05 01/30/06 (1)

In search of audio's early Corvair - John Marks 07:17:23 01/31/06 (0)

I think maybe you've got it wrong... - mkuller 20:11:15 01/30/06 (1)

Re: I think maybe you've got it wrong... - Mike Currie 04:53:35 01/31/06 (0)

One Word - Triangle - groove 19:20:26 01/30/06 (4)

I expected that! - John Marks 07:20:41 01/31/06 (2)

Re: I expected that! - groove 12:36:07 01/31/06 (0)

Re: I expected that! - John Atkinson 10:34:25 01/31/06 (0)

Re: One Word - Triangle - vettracer 19:46:16 01/30/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - J-PMatt@Comcast.Net 19:05:45 01/30/06 (3)

The only reason you know that is because we told you. - John Marks 07:23:58 01/31/06 (1)

Re: The only reason you know that is because we told you. - J-PMatt@Comcast.Net 15:57:24 01/31/06 (0)

generally I agree, except... - robert young 21:53:46 01/30/06 (0)

Harmonic Tech Cyberlight Interconects - vettracer 19:00:07 01/30/06 (5)

On the other hand, to me and *many* others they sound great! However, they do have a "sensitivity" problem. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:20:33 01/31/06 (0)

Thanks for pointing that out. - John Marks 07:26:17 01/31/06 (3)

Re: Thanks for pointing that out. - John Atkinson 09:02:13 01/31/06 (2)

Huh? - vettracer 07:21:32 02/1/06 (0)

Thanks for pointing that out - John Marks 10:14:41 01/31/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - TomLarson 18:45:30 01/30/06 (19)

How about this? "Most all are basically competent, soem are better than others"? - John Marks 07:31:42 01/31/06 (18)

Wait a minute! - morricab 08:44:46 01/31/06 (17)

No....wait two minutes. - bwkendall 17:10:34 01/31/06 (8)

Hey BWK, I've waited two minutes :^) - thetubeguy1954 10:32:41 02/1/06 (5)

I may have read it sideways, but it seems - bwkendall 12:09:13 02/1/06 (4)

That's the "latchkey audio" concept I wrote about. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:50:21 02/1/06 (0)

Re: I may have read it sideways, but it seems - thetubeguy1954 12:33:03 02/1/06 (2)

All you SET guys (and gals) say the same thing. - bwkendall 13:12:45 02/1/06 (1)

Tend to agree. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:51:18 02/1/06 (0)

Re: No....wait two minutes. - QuadTodd 18:31:20 01/31/06 (1)

You got it! -t - bwkendall 13:37:36 02/1/06 (0)

Bravo! - thetubeguy1954 10:27:25 01/31/06 (0)

Your cure is worse than my disease - John Marks 10:26:01 01/31/06 (6)

You Are Right & Wrong - thetubeguy1954 13:31:33 01/31/06 (5)

I am not being disingenuous, I am tired - John Marks 15:29:57 01/31/06 (2)

Re: I am not being disingenuous, I am tired - thetubeguy1954 08:24:05 02/1/06 (1)

That he would be tired - bjh 14:01:59 02/1/06 (0)

Re: You Are Right & Wrong - John Atkinson 13:56:17 01/31/06 (1)

Re: You Are Right & Wrong - thetubeguy1954 05:53:41 02/1/06 (0)

You specifically avoided an (if not the *most) important issue for many. - Rick W 18:38:31 01/30/06 (8)

Here's the secret (don't tell anyone) - John Marks 07:39:07 01/31/06 (7)

Hmm, half an ass is better than none? - Rick W 10:23:51 01/31/06 (6)

I sincerely believe that... - John Marks 15:08:54 01/31/06 (5)

Re: I sincerely believe that... - morricab 07:56:24 02/1/06 (3)

Re: I sincerely believe that... - John Atkinson 10:22:12 02/1/06 (0)

I agree that you are "3. One who tends to make harsh or carping judgments; a faultfinder." - John Marks 09:46:47 02/1/06 (1)

Re: I agree that you are "3. One who tends to make harsh or carping judgments; a faultfinder." - morricab 12:43:35 02/1/06 (0)

Re: I sincerely believe that... - JTimothyA 00:16:27 02/1/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - Mike Currie 17:57:21 01/30/06 (1)

Only while wearing a biohazard suit, one should hope - John Marks 07:46:02 01/31/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - Shane from AUS 17:19:05 01/30/06 (2)

Thanks - John Marks 07:49:15 01/31/06 (1)

Re: Thanks - Shane from AUS 14:54:06 01/31/06 (0)

human hearing - beach cruiser 17:06:12 01/30/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - cjfrbw 16:07:12 01/30/06 (3)

THANK YOU! - John Marks 16:32:24 01/30/06 (2)

Recognize that those of us who use our real names ... - Dave Pogue 04:49:22 01/31/06 (1)

Bose v. Consumers' Union, __ U.S. __ (198X) - John Marks 07:55:02 01/31/06 (0)

Re: OK: Please list all the "bad" products - Enophile 15:21:09 01/30/06 (22)

Sorry - John Marks 01/30/0616:05:59 01/30/06 (17)

Scary thought... - Jim Austin 17:41:42 01/30/06 (0)

Are you retelling results, or opinions ? - beach cruiser 17:40:04 01/30/06 (7)

Both - John Marks 08:08:41 01/31/06 (6)

Thank you for the reply, - beach cruiser 10:57:23 01/31/06 (5)

No offense intended (at least by me) - John Marks 11:35:41 01/31/06 (4)

Re: No offense intended (at least by me) - morricab 08:20:24 02/1/06 (0)

The thrill is gone - beach cruiser 18:11:31 01/31/06 (2)

The Compact Disc is an analog medium, read by analog means - John Marks 05:24:33 02/1/06 (1)

Thanks again for the reply - beach cruiser 13:20:06 02/1/06 (0)

Re: Sorry - Enophile 16:50:32 01/30/06 (7)

Re: Sorry - Grant 10:59:50 01/31/06 (0)

Greetings, earthling! (that was a joke) - John Marks 08:35:19 01/31/06 (2)

Okay, he's an earthling. - bwkendall 12:07:18 01/31/06 (0)

Holy Cow! - Enophile 09:07:05 01/31/06 (0)

Participation in this thread is limited to earthlings. - bwkendall 16:56:13 01/30/06 (2)

Re: Participation in this thread is limited to earthlings. - Enophile 17:03:38 01/30/06 (1)

I read your response above and below, - bwkendall 17:16:45 01/30/06 (0)

Thank you for playing, please try again. - bwkendall 15:48:54 01/30/06 (3)

Re: Thank you for playing, please try again. - Enophile 16:01:48 01/30/06 (2)

O-k-a-y. L-e-t-'-s t-r-y J-M-'-s q-u-e-s-t-i-o-n a-g-a-i-n. - bwkendall 16:21:46 01/30/06 (1)

Re: O-k-a-y. L-e-t-'-s t-r-y J-M-'-s q-u-e-s-t-i-o-n a-g-a-i-n. - Enophile 17:02:20 01/30/06 (0)

Was the 'lil Rat ever reviewed? - gd 15:04:38 01/30/06 (0)

Well now *that's* an angle. I presume you don't want the merely overrated... nt - clarkjohnsen 15:04:16 01/30/06 (1)

Right as usual, Clark - John Marks 15:19:52 01/30/06 (0)

Man, I can't wait to see if anyone replies!!! - EdM 14:51:54 01/30/06 (3)

The "worst" review I can remember writing - John Marks 15:10:07 01/30/06 (1)

JM - is this a valid point? - jdarby 10:25:04 02/2/06 (0)

Somehow I have a feeling that the - kavakidd 15:04:52 01/30/06 (0)

Follow Ups

Sorry - John Marks 01/30/0616:05:59 01/30/06 (17)

Scary thought... - Jim Austin 17:41:42 01/30/06 (0)

Are you retelling results, or opinions ? - beach cruiser 17:40:04 01/30/06 (7)

Both - John Marks 08:08:41 01/31/06 (6)

Thank you for the reply, - beach cruiser 10:57:23 01/31/06 (5)

No offense intended (at least by me) - John Marks 11:35:41 01/31/06 (4)

Re: No offense intended (at least by me) - morricab 08:20:24 02/1/06 (0)

The thrill is gone - beach cruiser 18:11:31 01/31/06 (2)

The Compact Disc is an analog medium, read by analog means - John Marks 05:24:33 02/1/06 (1)

Thanks again for the reply - beach cruiser 13:20:06 02/1/06 (0)

Re: Sorry - Enophile 16:50:32 01/30/06 (7)

Re: Sorry - Grant 10:59:50 01/31/06 (0)

Greetings, earthling! (that was a joke) - John Marks 08:35:19 01/31/06 (2)

Okay, he's an earthling. - bwkendall 12:07:18 01/31/06 (0)

Holy Cow! - Enophile 09:07:05 01/31/06 (0)

Participation in this thread is limited to earthlings. - bwkendall 16:56:13 01/30/06 (2)

Re: Participation in this thread is limited to earthlings. - Enophile 17:03:38 01/30/06 (1)

I read your response above and below, - bwkendall 17:16:45 01/30/06 (0)