Cryogenic Treatment

Posted by Jeff Delman on November 11, 2001 at 00:09:06

I've read virtually the entire thread down below about Cryogenic Treatment. It's getting pretty lond down there, so I've decided to start a new thread that focuses on the nature of it, and the how and why (not stuff like "WOW, I heard a big difference"). The one thing all those posts didn't address is what it specifically cryo treatment does to the metal, and why this might improve sonics.

This reminds me of all the sex information books that came out in the early 70s...Rodney Dangerfield said they tell you everything you could possibly want to know about sex, except for one thing...where to get it.

I'm neither a sceptic or a believer of the sonic benefits at this time. I've got an Acme Cryo duplex sitting in my wall, but don't want to rip it out and in and out and in along with a non-cryo outlet so that I can A/B them.

What I'm looking for is not explainations like some wire manufacturer gave saying something like "cryo treatment improves the sound by making the midrange more defined and blah blah blah..." That's not telling me how or why, even if it's speculation.

I'd like to hear it's scientific effect on the metals, particularly in outlets, plugs, etc.. I'd be interested in possible or proven explainations of why it can improve sonics. I'm open to proven theory, hypothesis, speculation, etc., as long as it's described that way.

I'm already aware that many report subjective improvements, and I don't have any interest in doubting their hearing. What I ulitmately want to be able to do is explain what it does to the metal, and what that in effect does to improve sound. OK, lets' go...

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Topic - Cryogenic Treatment - Jeff Delman 00:09:06 11/11/01 (24)

Re: Cryogenic Treatment - Gregory Bartlett 21:43:22 11/12/01 (0)

Re: Cryogenic Treatment - HIFIADDICT 15:21:01 11/11/01 (12)

Re: Cryogenic Treatment - Ray Kimber 09:21:46 11/12/01 (11)

Re: Cryogenic Treatment - Gregory Bartlett 23:49:01 11/12/01 (0)

Hooray! Ray's back! - badman 21:40:29 11/12/01 (0)

Cyrogenic? - Lee S 20:53:21 11/12/01 (8)

Cryogenics - Gregory Bartlett 23:47:30 11/12/01 (7)

recipe and ramping - Ray Kimber 07:01:41 11/13/01 (2)

Off-subject remark - ronyweissman@hotmail.com 02:38:08 11/16/01 (1)

a very poetic observation, to be sure :) nt - Ray Kimber 08:10:48 11/16/01 (0)

Re: Cryogenics - geoffkait 02:57:49 11/13/01 (3)

availability and practicality - badman 20:56:45 11/14/01 (2)

Re: Badman......be surprised!! - alan m. kafton 23:32:38 11/14/01 (1)

Okay! Good thing I didn't say it matter-of-factly! ;-) nt - badman 12:01:19 11/15/01 (0)

Re: Cryogenic Treatment - geoffkait 03:16:12 11/11/01 (1)

Makes sense - audioengr 09:06:22 11/12/01 (0)

Re: From Jena Labs website - Jeff Delman 00:18:41 11/11/01 (7)

Re: From Jena Labs website - audioengr 09:00:18 11/12/01 (2)

They mention the realignment of crystal structure. (nt) - badman 07:58:53 11/13/01 (0)

Re: Hmm...well, let's see if we can figure it out. <nt> - Jeff Delman 21:12:25 11/12/01 (0)

The truth about cryogenics??? - Norm 07:51:14 11/11/01 (3)

Re: The truth about cryogenics??? - Gregory Bartlett 23:54:44 11/12/01 (1)

Re: The truth about cryogenics??? - Norm 11:07:04 11/14/01 (0)

Re: The truth about cryogenics??? - jts 09:15:35 11/11/01 (0)

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