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1: It's the opposite of a... (9.15)
Posted by mkuller on 2011-02-27, 12:32:01 (207.200.116.66)
...brighter, more illuminated sound which seems to highlight the players on the stage from within. Usually, it means the upper midrange and highs are not as prominent. When considering the frequency r .......
2: Re: Should I Be Drummed Out of High End Audio? (9.15)
Posted by ggraff on 2002-04-02, 05:53:17 (204.124.92.254)
I appreciate all of your suggestions/comments. I was trying to do a reality check with you people. I have always been a sucker for warm midrange which is not necessarily right, but is certainly seduct .......
3: Re: Questions about midrange enclosure (7.64)
Posted by Bold Eagle on 2001-12-03, 16:09:38 (207.54.141.94)
Lots of questions here, but the main one is the reason for isolating the midrange. Bozak uses an open back midrange, so it would be exposed to the presure from the woofers at lower frequencies. This w .......
4: Re: BATvk 30se: Help with midrange nirvana (7.33)
Posted by Ozzy on 2001-08-23, 07:53:53 (160.84.80.2)
My experience is with the standard VK-30, but it was much like what you describe. Although there was lots of inner detail and transparency in the midrange, there was an upper midrange glare that I cou .......
5: Those are intriguing, but are OB in the midrange only (7.19)
Posted by Brian H P on 2023-10-06, 12:50:25 (63.155.5.182)
Thereby avoiding backwave wrap-around cancellations in the bass, which limit the LF extension of most planars. The OB midrange idea has been used by a number of makers over the years, sometimes with s .......
6: MIT 330 MKII interconnect (7.19)
Posted by Carlos on 2000-09-07, 17:29:50 (200.192.203.22)
MIT cable will deliver outstanding vocals/midrange and slightly recessed bass / treble, may be just what you are looking for. As usual, try before you buy. I find MIT much better than looking for a ca .......
7: Sure. (6.94)
Posted by thoriated_tiger on 2004-10-13, 13:58:58 (208.35.159.6)
Going from cone midrange to horn midrange. First night was almost scary. What came out of those midrange horns was going straight *through* me. Losing just *one* out of three SCR polyprop caps in my p .......
8: Wrong again. Mids are more than middle... (6.91)
Posted by Abel McCain on 2008-01-25, 12:23:34 (69.144.220.120)
I'm saying that the best and most satisfying sensation of fullrange sound will come when the midrange is at it's best. Every format I listen to presents a satisfactory facsimile of fullrange sound. Bu .......
9: RE: ROTFLMAO (6.89)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2009-01-21, 18:26:17 (72.222.246.75)
"Oh, wait; were you referring to your upper midrange or the lower?" The ENTIRE midrange..... The overall presentation is heavy...... Kinda slow too..... .......
10: RE: Got crazy? (6.81)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2022-09-07, 19:50:45 (172.98.87.73)
I added a tweeter with high pass around 10k to my speaker. (3 microfarad cap on a 6 ohm tweeter) Then the upper midrange (2.5-8 kHz)dropped 3 dB. That is crazy to me as I did nothing with the midrang .......
11: Re: Seconded (6.78)
Posted by George on 2001-12-04, 14:57:07 (141.155.13.88)
what i am mostly concerned is upper midrange transparency. The amp must be able to make the upper midrange sound black when that is what the recording is like. with my current amp, the upper midrange .......
12: RE: Sure (6.77)
Posted by 3db on 2015-06-18, 08:08:26 (140.80.199.91)
Not lower levels only but across the spectrum. Human hearing is most sensitive in the midrange but is less sensitive on either side of midrange. .......
13: Re: Opinions please on Totem Tabus (6.73)
Posted by orb on 2000-12-24, 23:59:16 (209.5.206.90)
I owned a pair of Tabu's for a year but ended up selling them and keeping my Model One Signatures. The Tabu's are definitely NOT nearfield speakers. There is a midrange suckout when listening in the n .......
14: RE: Has audio 'improved' in the last 50 years? (6.72)
Posted by ruxtonvet on 2009-11-19, 05:13:17 (71.248.56.37)
There is more to music than an accurate midrange. That system will reproduce a beautiful midrange but no deep bass or high frequencies. Extremely limited dynamics. I once heard a pair of KLH double ni .......
15: AR 3a Loudspeakers (6.72)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2005-02-21, 16:09:55 (204.144.130.66)
I agree that the AR 3a speakers pretty much sucked. Almost all of the mainstream speakers from that era sucked. Consumer Reports was a big part of the problem. Everyone came in asking for AR 3as or AR .......
16: How to remove the midrange driver from Thiel CS7s (6.61)
Posted by ThomasL on 2009-07-31, 00:19:27 (218.189.142.54)
My Thiel CS7 have some "shishi...." sound from the midrange driver. I try everything to proove that the problem from the speaker.I just like to remove the driver out and test whether the problem fro .......
17: Re: Massed Strings and Massed Vocals -- What does it take? (6.60)
Posted by Rodney Gold on 1999-08-18, 21:25:51 (196.31.0.186)
That type of music puts out massive energy in the midrange , its either the midrange of the speaker or the amp running out of headroom. .......
18: Re: Ya want bass. (6.59)
Posted by vasyachkin on 2002-05-13, 21:32:21 (141.155.106.176)
bass is safer than midrange or treble at a same SPL. so ( roughly ) bass at 95 db is only as damaging as midrange or treble at 85 db. this is because ears are less sensitive to bass. most sources cons .......
19: Re: The meaning of analytical when describing sound or particular piece of equip. (6.58)
Posted by Jim Bookhard on 2000-09-08, 16:40:29 (63.10.154.32)
Adi, "I don't think low freq. effects like fullness or body has much to do with this." "Fullness" and "body" are not "low frequency effects". They are effects that result from the harmonics primarily .......
20: Re: B&W N805's with SimAudio Moon I5 (6.56)
Posted by OwenMeany on 2002-02-19, 13:04:32 (67.112.88.212)
I think that would be a nice match. I-5 has enough power IMO. And have a very smooooth sound to the midrange which might compliment the very detailed nature of the N805's midrange... .......
21: Re: Couple basic audio terms questions (6.55)
Posted by ggraff on 2002-07-16, 06:03:48 (204.124.92.254)
I have always used the term dark to connote a sound which has the upper midrange and whole treble region recessed in comparison to the middle and lower midrange. Warm connotes to me an elevated upper .......
22: go tubes! (6.49)
Posted by AndrewH on 2000-12-30, 21:58:18 (209.239.198.9)
I have a Belles 150a solid state power amp myself, but have since listened to much tubes, and I regret my initial purchase. The amp is very solid and great at what it does, but it doesn't do midrange .......
23: Because their midrange is crap and they need something to take pleasure in. (6.47)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2005-09-28, 11:55:33 (71.131.194.19)
A system with boom and sizzle, but a dry midrange, is like an old Detroit muscle car: great for drag racing, but don't try to drive fast on real roads with it. .......
24: Pets Covering All Frequencies (6.44)
Posted by Jerry O on 2001-11-21, 10:06:46 (12.13.238.139)
The "outside" cat for the treble. The pomeranian for the midrange (primarily upper midrange). The Keeshound for the bass. The tortoise for those slow movements. The fish for those quiet moments betwee .......
25: Questions about midrange enclosure (6.42)
Posted by robc on 2001-12-03, 12:00:57 (216.119.22.198)
I have decided to construct a new, more state-of-the-art cabinet for some older Bozak drivers originally housed in a Bozak B-302A cabinet. My question is whether to use an integral (internal) enclosu .......
26: If sounds like a troll and smells like a troll (6.36)
Posted by Michael on 2000-08-11, 12:15:17 (129.239.3.55)
Okay, I'll bite. So how did you come to determine that the systems, you listened to, were a good *synergy* match? Did you walk into a dealer and say I want to listen to speaker X with tube gear? You m .......
27: Re: How are resistance and sensitivity related? (+more) (6.36)
Posted by Pat D on 1999-12-15, 15:57:59 (198.103.184.3)
As well, the impedance varies with frequency in most speakers, and for very good reasons. As I recall, my old Kef 104aB speakers impedance curve got down to about 7 ohms around 50 Hz and went up to 40 .......
28: clarifiaction of erroneous bass, midrange, and treble frequency designations (6.36)
Posted by Mikenificent1 on 2001-01-17, 14:03:21 (208.219.163.9)
It seems some people need to be reminded or informed of the ACTUAL frequency range of music. I've seen so many people, even by so called professionals/reviewers, incorrectly refer to them that it is a .......
29: Sorry. Not into HT bass. (6.32)
Posted by GTF on 2007-10-28, 18:25:55 (24.110.124.132)
The way I compare bass is like comparing QUAD 57's midrange to a pair of BOSE cube's midrange. BASS has the same quality. It's not all about HOW LOUD IT PLAYS. Or how much "IT HITS" bass. ::: TOPIC:: .......
30: RE: How to remove the midrange driver from Thiel CS7s (6.32)
Posted by bgpowell on 2009-07-31, 11:02:17 (162.58.82.135)
If it's just one speaker midrange, switch left and right speaker connections. If the "shishi" follows the speaker, then you can blame the speaker. If not, it is probably upstream from the speaker. ::: .......
31: Re: Starting out in hi-fi... so many questions! (6.32)
Posted by Clink on 2002-10-21, 19:22:04 (65.26.59.37)
Beware of the phenomenon at audio stores of equipment that sounds 'exciting'. With speakers it's known as 'boom and sizzle'. With electronics it may also be a bright top end that tends to exagerate de .......
32: YUes Jimmy those AKG 701s do have a forward midrange (6.31)
Posted by John C. - Aussie on 2011-11-29, 03:55:08 (58.169.118.54)
Meant to add that in my other reply. Not the best for music but that forward midrange makes them vg for TV speech. John .......
33: RE: Got crazy? (6.28)
Posted by chuck55 on 2022-09-07, 18:00:40 (32.216.119.195)
I added a tweeter with high pass around 10k to my speaker. (3 microfarad cap on a 6 ohm tweeter) Then the upper midrange (2.5-8 kHz)dropped 3 dB. That is crazy to me as I did nothing with the midrange .......
34: Re: Changed Room/Changed Philosophy (LONG) (6.25)
Posted by Marc Bratton on 2003-01-04, 11:33:47 (65.179.128.58)
You got a difficult room, consider a pair of one of the smaller Magnepans as well ((MMG, MG12...I think 1.6's might be too big). Especially if you're a sucker for female voices. You're on the right tr .......
35: Re: What Does "Laid Back" Mean? (6.23)
Posted by mdryoon on 2002-04-09, 09:50:58 (167.176.6.8)
To me, "laid back" refers to a broad dip in the midrange or presence (upper midrange/lower treble) region. .......
36: Sim Audio Moon W5 Amp-Thin midrange? (6.22)
Posted by jim on 2000-02-04, 10:21:44 (162.119.232.100)
What are peoples experience with this amp.I know it takes a lot of breakin time to fill out and an aftermarket AC cord is supposed to help also , but even after all that- how does the midrange sound.H .......
37: Re: weakest link? (6.16)
Posted by ro-s on 2002-10-02, 12:11:39 (217.3.215.236)
If something is missing in the midrange probably it's the speaker and speaker/room interaction - you might want to try different speakers. That other cables give you a better midrange is close to impo .......
38: RE: "If I'm not mistaken, they are the only ones to do this." (6.11)
Posted by Dave B on 2019-04-02, 12:41:57 (99.179.149.37)
Right, but a tweeter is not a midrange driver and a 7" one at that. There are serious challenges to making a Beryllium diaphragm that is largely due to it's brittleness. Can you think of any other Be .......
39: Re: High frequency "beaming" (6.11)
Posted by steve oda on 2003-08-31, 13:57:30 (24.205.12.84)
PP, Are these DIY speakers? Make sure that the midrange drivers are in phase with each other. Not the tweeter. I've heard this wierd effect on units where the crossovers or wiring to the midrange got .......
40: RE: The leap from mid-fi to hi-fi (6.11)
Posted by Duster on 2020-04-06, 18:14:06 (73.19.55.31)
I've read somewhere that the human ear is "tuned" towards subtle perception of the human voice, and the midrange is where the majority of audible musical information such as timbre and harmonic conten .......
41: Well, Not sure about that (6.10)
Posted by Freo-1 on 2023-07-27, 16:57:02 (108.200.223.64)
ATC has several models that are not ported, and many believe the midrange and vocals from the ATC speakers are about as good as it gets. After all, they are in a lot of studios for mixing and masterin .......
42: Hmmmm (6.09)
Posted by Bob Neill on 2009-10-21, 13:00:38 (24.61.5.250)
What is you went to a concert and heard what sounded to you like incorrect "midrange tone"? What if you went on Monday and the midrange tone sounded correct and then on Wednesday to hear a different e .......
43: Re: I don't think that is the objective experience. (6.06)
Posted by theaudiohobby on 2006-01-30, 04:17:04 (194.203.201.98)
"I think sensitivity to extended HF is not that unusual. Me, wife, and others, also detect that SACD, while giving more detailed, hi-tech sound, presents more fatigue than Redbook CDs do. SACDs," Ther .......
44: BATvk 30se: Help with midrange nirvana (6.06)
Posted by PhopsonNY on 2001-08-23, 06:55:59 (64.0.57.40)
Hi there all, I love my BATvk30se, but I have always been aware that the midrange is not as luxurious as the treble or midbass region. I must say that the midrange is quite beautiful, but it never ach .......
45: There is MUCH to gain IME... (6.03)
Posted by Maprik on 2001-05-03, 17:56:53 (63.201.59.122)
I use 2 runs of DH-Labs Silver Sonic T-14. One run sounds good but midrange is a little thin and bass is light but tight. Adding a second run gave me a richer midrange and deeper, fuller, bass, just a .......
46: what do you listen to/for (6.03)
Posted by Mart on 2001-03-29, 08:44:23 (155.218.112.2)
What speakers have you enjoyed/hated & why? (This will inform us to what you're listening to/for in order to achieve that "you are there" illusion. Since no speakers can achieve this outright, especia .......
47: Re: Tone Control Quiz (6.03)
Posted by Pat D on 2001-01-29, 00:13:30 (198.164.200.233)
The adjustable turnover points on your old Yamaha sound interesting, particular the 150 Hz and 8 KHz ones. Conventional tone controls affect the balance of the midbass, midrange, and upper midrange to .......
48: RE: The leap from mid-fi to hi-fi (6.03)
Posted by LtMandella on 2020-04-06, 13:44:55 (70.173.239.44)
Midrange is always the foundation of satisfaction of music reproduction. Limitations in the reproduction of the frequency extremes - when properly managed - negatively impact the listening experience .......
49: Re: circa $1,000 CD Players (6.03)
Posted by roy on 1999-06-18, 20:14:02 (152.163.207.71)
I believe the Planet has a muddy midrange, although it has "airy" highs and a good low end. Listen to orchestra music on the Planet and you may notice the murky midrange getting in the way of enjoying .......
50: Acurus A150 Problem (6.00)
Posted by hk29 on 2002-03-20, 15:57:14 (66.161.177.52)
Hi, I have the acurus A150 and the midrange is really thin. Can anyone tell me if there are two fuse in the unit or if one is supposed to be a little spring. And can you tell me when you look through .......
51: RE: Thunderous bass, who needs it? You do. Let's face it, (5.99)
Posted by SgreenP@MSN.com on 2011-12-23, 11:21:22 (24.251.99.18)
Your comments are very true, however, if I had to CHOOSE, most music is in the midrange, and I would opt for the best midrange, and forgo the lows until I could afford it. Also, one must be carful to .......
52: Re: EXACTLY, describe the "degradation that you hear using a surge protector. (5.98)
Posted by Noname on 2002-03-23, 15:26:03 (66.161.178.19)
My Monster Cable Power COnditioner robbed me of my midrange. The majority came from the CD player!! I plugged it into the right plug labeled CD ... I put the CD player directly into the wall - volia, .......
53: crazy room response (5.98)
Posted by herb's go karts on 2007-01-26, 07:46:43 (205.207.163.34)
Well, thanks for the commiseration. After a few more hours of moving the speakers around last night I started to find positions that give me some of the midrange back. It's difficult as the positions .......
54: You realize I was relating a late reviewer friend's system? (5.94)
Posted by E-Stat on 2023-03-02, 11:05:37 (206.255.214.187)
My system is very nice, but HP's Nordost Odin cable budget *alone* was higher! The Plasmatronics reminds me of one of Harry's funniest comments about a speaker. While the tweeter was great, the midra .......
55: Re: Ahh (5.90)
Posted by theaudiohobby on 2003-12-03, 06:42:40 (81.129.61.25)
Your problem is that of many audiophiles that is 'IF IT SOUNDS GOOD, THEN IT MUST BE ACCURATE', that however is simply rubbish, as mentioned somewhere on this thread, euphony is not equivalent to accu .......
56: RE: Old Guys And The High Frequency Paradox! (5.88)
Posted by boboli on 2007-09-28, 07:07:40 (24.56.62.80)
I personally have experienced that. I was really drawn to bright systems systems when I was in my early twenties. Now in my late fifties I value an accurate midrange more. Of course, it is possible th .......
57: Or it can refer... (5.88)
Posted by mkuller on 2006-12-09, 15:13:03 (207.200.116.133)
...to the soundstage. On some systems the sound, especially the midrange, projects forward, even with or a little out in front of the speakers. On others, the image begins behind the speakers and exte .......
58: Re: JGH (5.86)
Posted by Vladimir Dorta on 2000-01-31, 19:00:41 (209.215.49.65)
Myles, I checked JGH's "Sounds Like? An Audio Glossary", and this is how he divides the frequency range: Low bass 20Hz to 40Hz Mid bass 40Hz to 80Hz Upper bass 80Hz to 160Hz Lower midrange 160Hz to 32 .......
59: RE: Single-Driver Full-Range Speakers In Your Future? (5.86)
Posted by jogo79 on 2020-04-08, 13:47:13 (24.126.170.60)
Hey Todd...I really think you might be right! I continue to have this idea in my mind of a speaker company using the best midrange driver (within reason) that doesn't have to be crossed over at a regi .......
60: Score a Jolida 302 or 202 (5.83)
Posted by Scott Woebcke on 2003-01-18, 21:30:39 (172.192.254.129)
The B&WS sing with them. The 602 is a good speaker but not all that much better than the 303...I mean yes you get more bass, better midrange band but at the price...Your better off saving your pennies .......
61: RE: Some have said that the... (5.83)
Posted by josh358 on 2011-12-17, 12:43:25 (64.252.130.231)
I dunno, the Quads still hold up in the midrange. OK, so they won't play loud, or deep, or high, but where they play, can anything beat them? Stats were the midrange standard then, and they still are .......
62: RE: Krell KSA-100 (5.83)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2008-05-01, 12:18:47 (71.196.223.228)
I guess Krell gear can sound totally different between generations and even models. I truly loved the somewhat sweet sound of the little Krell KSA-50s. It was a powerfully dynamic amp with incredible .......
63: RE: Bose 901 review?! (5.81)
Posted by russ69 on 2012-05-11, 14:12:50 (98.148.234.198)
The Bose 901s are something an audiophile can't stand. They are fun! I can't help but think they are one tweeter and one subwoofer away from being a decent speaker. Music is in the midrange and Bose h .......
64: Errr Mart (5.80)
Posted by Steve on 2001-03-24, 10:29:48 (192.6.76.72)
The midrange horn shown in your illustration will. if properly designed, give you a far more accurate midrange than any triangular horn. A high frequency triangular horn will have so many internal ref .......
65: RE: For those wanting spaciousness (5.79)
Posted by Dave_K on 2022-05-05, 15:40:41 (73.126.226.6)
For a given depth, diffusors are even more frequency limited than absorbers. A 2" thick absorber can cover the midrange and treble. To cover midrange frequencies with a diffusor, it generally has to b .......
66: Re: Speaker design (5.78)
Posted by Tom Brennan on 2006-12-15, 09:15:38 (74.140.141.202)
"I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone that has been into this hobby and is reasonably educated in the areas of electro-acoustics" Opinions often need explaining. You overlook that often the woo .......
67: Sorry Felix, i have to correct you on this one...... (5.77)
Posted by Sean on 2000-11-29, 21:21:29 (208.40.47.182)
As EVERY "metal head" knows, those are not the "perfect" settings for a graphic EQ. The proper settings would produce slightly sharper slopes with the midrange ( appr. 1Khz ) sunk as low as possible. .......
68: Re: Vocal/midrange "compression" what do I need to tweak... (long) (5.76)
Posted by Rodney Gold on 1999-12-29, 10:16:27 (196.2.56.5)
You most likely have a serious dip from about 200-700hz , perhaps sitting nearfield will help , if this doesnt cure the problem then it is an equipment issue and would most likely be adrressed by usin .......
69: Adding bass/treble or depressing midrange? (5.75)
Posted by Big Dave on 2002-05-19, 08:51:50 (68.4.139.85)
The "loudness" control on my old Parasound receiver has a little illustration of a frequency respose curve with the center dipped down and marked -10dB ... which causes me to think that controls of th .......
70: RE: The 18" midrange is a declaration (5.75)
Posted by ornery on 2022-10-27, 18:56:54 (73.72.162.201)
of indifference. It's just there to make fun. The brand is theater. You can't have a huge midrange and a decent sweet spot. .......
71: Re: WAF follow up SP 100's vs SP 1/2's (5.75)
Posted by cal on 2002-10-03, 12:45:21 (12.29.112.14)
The SP100 has a 12-inch woofer and 6.5-inch midrange driver, and it will pump out more bass than the smaller woofer on the SP1/2. The 1/2 has a super tweeter, tweeter, and midrange/woofer. Check out S .......
72: A possible solution (5.73)
Posted by Brian A on 2001-12-05, 18:50:49 (192.195.68.175)
I note in your system that the speakers are Dunlavy SC-IV. Now I have read that the original SC-IV's had some sort of problem in the upper midrange region that was fixed with a new crossover and midra .......
73: Everything counts but? (5.70)
Posted by David Aiken on 2003-01-30, 15:52:21 (202.138.17.183)
I find that I have to "tune" things until I'm happy that voices really do remind me of what natural voices sound like. Once I get voices right, the rest of the things fill in around that and things st .......
74: RE: Those are intriguing, but are OB in the midrange only (5.70)
Posted by hahax@verizon.net on 2023-10-06, 20:43:36 (100.1.131.65)
Not only in the midrange but crossover is at 500Hz which means the 5 bottom octaves(of 10 total octaves) are non dipole and then it's non-dipole at the tweeter. I've heard good dipole speakers recentl .......
75: Re: Can someone explain.... (5.69)
Posted by Magnetar on 2004-05-07, 07:03:35 (68.72.214.4)
In alot of cases people do this to enhance imaging. What is happening is when you move the speaker out the lower midrange down is attenuated and in turn the midrange up becomes a bit forward that in t .......
76: Re: Progress? WHAT progress? (5.69)
Posted by Tuckers on 2003-02-24, 23:39:29 (66.167.201.13)
Well, the quads did have a magical midrange. But noone, even Quad has succeeded in marrying that to a full-range design. Part of the reason the quad works well, is that there are no low frequencies to .......
77: Re: The meaning of analytical when describing sound or particular piece of equip. (5.67)
Posted by Jim Bookhard on 2000-09-08, 16:33:57 (63.10.154.32)
Adi, "I don't think low freq. effects like fullness or body has much to do with this." "Fullness" and "body" are not "low frequency effects". They are effects that result from the harmonics in the mid .......
78: Re: Help with Maggie MMG's (5.65)
Posted by Terry on 2002-08-07, 12:27:20 (198.103.167.50)
You know, it is just possible that she does not particularly care for the sound of the Maggies as they are very different than what you had before. I think "thin" is actually referring to the midrange .......
79: Re: Creek 3440R vs Creek 3440SE (5.65)
Posted by Bill on 2000-07-12, 19:04:52 (209.214.151.176)
This my not be completely relevant but it may be useful. I recently auditioned 2 Creek phono preamps OBH-8 and OBH-8SE. I actually liked the regular OBH-8 better. The midrange had more sparkle/light a .......
80: Re: Blue Heaven vs Van den Hul (for a passive-pre) (5.65)
Posted by RLM on 1999-12-08, 07:22:56 (206.27.66.5)
I found that the Blue Heaven interconnect slightly elevated the upper midrange in my system. This elevation was more pronounced when used between the CD player and preamp. Since you indicate that you .......
81: Re: Digitally recorded Vinyl to me sounds rolled-off in the high end and shrill in the upper midrange. (5.64)
Posted by Jwm on 2006-11-27, 06:08:40 (68.43.224.184)
I agree with you. CDR copies of analog records sound rolled off on the top with loss of air in the midrange. People think these cd copies are less digital sounding and like the rolled off highs better .......
82: Re: More CES inpressions.... (5.63)
Posted by Brian Walsh on 2002-01-12, 20:35:23 (64.81.150.121)
Holman Audio from downunder exhibited a tower (which he just completed) for $15k that was probably the best I heard at the entire show. Vocals simply were stunningly real and accurate. I heard the Ho .......
83: RE: Mmmmm (5.62)
Posted by FRG7SWL on 2015-03-23, 10:58:53 (75.48.0.49)
No prob! Hemp cones specialize in replicating serious bass too, complementing their killer midrange. MC-90s, which were originally badged G12H-80s back-in-da-daze, are Celestion's take on Electro Voic .......
84: Thanks, Charles! (5.62)
Posted by Duke on 2000-02-26, 23:12:44 (24.4.254.165)
Actually, the "other room listening" test comes from my days (years? decades?) as an amateur speaker builder. Another test I use is to turn the speakers down real low, right to the verge of inaudibili .......
85: RE: musical involvement (5.59)
Posted by mkuller on 2014-06-04, 08:28:12 (67.188.166.191)
...of course PRaT has already been mentioned - pace, rythym and timing. Another closely related aspect is dynamic contrasts, the life and breath of the music. But there are other things as well. I was .......
86: "an open, natural, and involving midrange" (5.59)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2006-02-26, 12:39:05 (71.132.8.202)
You are indeed fortunate to have discovered this sooner rather than later. You are correct that this is the most important virtue of a playback system. Adding capability at frequency extremes, and cap .......
87: Re: Tradeoffs Between Detail and Soundstaging (5.59)
Posted by ggraff on 2001-10-10, 05:38:47 (204.124.92.155)
Thanks to all of you for input. Your point about the subtle shift in frequency response in the 1-2K range is correct. What I have found is that bumps in frequency response in the upper midrange/lower .......
88: Re: Does "thin trebble" indicate HF roll off? (5.59)
Posted by ggraff on 2001-11-14, 05:09:48 (204.124.92.254)
By "thinness" I am assuming you are talking about missing some of the body of the voice/instrument. I have been playing around with my room and getting various frequency anomolies, thinness being one .......
89: Klein + Hummel O300D (5.59)
Posted by Klaus on 2004-07-08, 07:50:17 (212.211.89.45)
I'm using Klein + Hummel's top-of-the-line model O500C. The 300D has the same midrange driver and tweeter, midrange and treble are hence very similar, which means very clear and clean. I also know sev .......
90: ?? as I said in my experience with Tympani's they don't open up until above 85dB to say 90dB avg. (5.58)
Posted by cfb on 2012-07-13, 08:16:02 (71.55.46.195)
which is higher than the Apogee but then the Apogee has a 2 inch ribbon midrange driver and Magnepan only has the tweeter ribbon. I have the Tympani models I and III which do not have a ribbon driver .......
91: RE: Warm sound definition (5.54)
Posted by mkuller on 2012-08-20, 20:49:22 (24.4.150.31)
...my definition of "warm sounding" is that you ear is drawn to the lower midrange - it's the opposite of "dry", "lean" and "clinical" sounding where the upper midrange might be your focus. "Full soun .......
92: Disagree with One Point... (5.54)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2002-08-02, 10:18:35 (129.239.26.4)
" "Anything" about a system from one cut? Hah! I can tell about 80% of what I need to know about the midrange of a system from one cut: Ella's Easy to Love. The rest is fine detail. I can size up a sy .......
93: The funniest TAS putdown (5.54)
Posted by E-Stat on 2003-10-16, 09:30:14 (66.56.1.63)
was with HP's review of the Hill Plasmatronics speaker. While he acknowledged the purity of the plasma tweeter, he hated the midrange. His wording was something like this: ...the obnoxious "My Heart G .......
94: Re: Amen!....and LOL! (5.53)
Posted by madnash on 2003-11-30, 16:43:01 (68.74.196.233)
"Like when the reveiwer goes on and on about the rich, warm, lush midrange..." Years, ago I bought a pair of tube mono blocks that "everyone" described as having rich, warm midrange. These amps also .......
95: So Pharoh, congested midrange and smaller soundstage (5.52)
Posted by spacedeckman on 2003-12-28, 16:03:19 (68.93.11.58)
wooley bass is better? I find Yamaha stuff to be far more musical, dynamic, open in the midrange, and providing a much wider soundstage with more accurate placement, tighter on the bottom end with be .......
96: Re: Have electro magnetic field radiation from a wall corner. (5.51)
Posted by aaron1608 on 2004-04-17, 11:10:44 (66.185.85.71)
Yes the midrange horn capture the buzz.But when I removed the cable connection between bass and top midrange and heights portion,the buzz goes off.How to shield the crossover ?? Also please explain: " .......
97: Re: Meadowlark and Von Schweikert already use this on some models (5.50)
Posted by Schu on 2006-02-08, 06:13:05 (63.162.189.17)
That is true that one of them uses Audax but I think the other either hides that information or has something proprietary made for them. But you are right. Those companies did not explicitly make use .......
98: Some speaker thoughts (5.50)
Posted by Duke on 2000-05-11, 21:51:18 (24.4.254.164)
As Pat D observed, midrange peaks in loudspeakers are particularly likely to be a source of listening fatigue. Unfortunately, a frequency response curve doesn't always reveal a midrange peak - it coul .......
99: Common Sounds / freq range (5.48)
Posted by MattS on 2001-07-15, 12:18:15 (4.54.126.184)
I was looking for where common sounds fall in freq range. Searching through asylum archive I found the following info: Low bass 20Hz to 40Hz Mid bass 40Hz to 80Hz Upper bass 80Hz to 160Hz Lower midran .......
100: Re: Tweaking a hi-end system - please help (5.48)
Posted by Keef on 2001-05-04, 07:46:08 (4.54.37.205)
MickeyP, that's a nice system you have assembled, If I were spending your buck I would put tubes in the preamp, with a system of that caliber i would go for a CJ 17LS - excellent midrange, a little lu .......
101: Get the 601's with quality stands (5.46)
Posted by Scott Woebcke on 2006-10-19, 15:31:32 (207.200.116.133)
The 601 has a very good midrange. The C370 should sound pretty good. You could also look at the 602 stand mount speaker. The 603-604 are just larger cabinets with more drivers and a little more low en .......
102: speakers (5.46)
Posted by Jon T on 1999-05-19, 19:27:10 (208.245.137.55)
Or how about this Genesis I speakers system? What you're looking at is only half of the complete modules. Each of the towers stands 7 1/2 feet tall. The bass module contains 12 12" servo controlled .......
103: Re: Borders Books Friday night live gig (5.46)
Posted by Brian Walsh on 2002-02-16, 04:33:14 (64.81.150.121)
Such liquidy smooth midrange, not much bass though.Clear vocals with no sibilence,occasional mouth pops and throaty sounds added to the realism and presence. Upper Midrange had such crystal clarity a .......
104: Re: Technics Floor speakers???? (5.46)
Posted by vasyachkin on 2002-01-16, 22:53:27 (141.155.115.57)
i have this speaker! i don't use it though - too lame even for my budget which is close to zero (college student with no job) i looked inside of it, the entire crossover has only one inductor - and th .......
105: Re: I try listening to sound (5.44)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2003-05-05, 15:56:02 (129.239.26.4)
I once heard a cute story of an audiophile listening to three systems, and describing their sound. The first system he said "had deep bass, sweet highs, but the midrange was a little 'nasal' sounding. .......
106: Now it's just a guess? (5.44)
Posted by J Nguyen on 2003-12-02, 17:42:57 (65.70.186.38)
"I made a conservative guess that subwoofer bass frequencies could be 15-20dB louder than midrange frequencies before causing damage. " Now it's just a guess? "A-Weighting slow response is claimed to .......
107: RE: How to remove the midrange driver from Thiel CS7s (5.44)
Posted by alfi on 2009-07-31, 07:09:51 (162.114.40.35)
I recommend you contact Theil directly. My past experience in terms of repairs had been highly favorable. In my case they covered a pair midrange drivers in one of their older models (03a's) beyond th .......
108: Re: An Oxymoron ? :> Vented and prat :) (5.42)
Posted by Bold Eagle on 2002-01-04, 07:34:01 (207.54.141.84)
Thor, Are your sealed speakers filled with fiberglass or polyester fiber? I ask, because IMHO a lot of what's good about Acoustic suspension is the filling that's necessary to make the bass end work r .......
109: You nailed it (5.42)
Posted by dpy on 2003-04-19, 16:31:16 (63.211.241.85)
Thanks for stating it better than I apparently was able to. Yep - when I was listening to my Tandberg receiver through some mid-level Klipsh speakers, everything had that midrange horn coloration. Lot .......
110: RE: What is the essence of live music? (5.42)
Posted by Awe-d-o-file on 2009-10-22, 06:23:03 (24.125.135.203)
you wrote: 1. Dynamics. OK I agree 2. Correct midrange tone. Maybe, probably more like lack of (good) HF overemphasizes the midrange 3. Spatial cues. I have to disagree, with electric or amplified mu .......
111: 2nd for the Sub, as refined as the Scan-Speak Revelator is, it's a midrange in search of a bass. (5.41)
Posted by cfb on 2010-02-12, 16:20:00 (76.6.251.159)
A 5 ½” cone is just too small to be a bass low frequency driver. In fact I would recommend two subs one for each channel and locate them as close to the mini-monitors as possible, that way you might g .......
112: Re: which way should I point the RadioShack spl meter (5.40)
Posted by Dave Kingsland on 2006-06-22, 19:53:36 (24.147.154.219)
For measuring bass and lower midrange frequencies, it doesn't seem to matter much. At higher frequencies, you will get the highest response with the meter pointed at the source. However, I wouldn't tr .......
113: Re: Think bipolar (5.40)
Posted by 2ms on 2003-04-24, 09:36:42 (129.59.71.176)
not quite -- they'll be slanting about 30 degrees downward rather than the 30 degrees upward needed in order to reach ears directly. They're especially directional vertically too. On another note, I w .......
114: Re: cause of increasing harshness with increasing volume? (5.40)
Posted by Pat D on 2001-11-28, 05:49:28 (156.34.210.93)
I have noticed the same phenomenon with some recordings. If I really want to listen to the performance given a harsh sounding recording, I turn the volume down. There is no particular reason to suppo .......
115: Re: Anyone see Planethifi review of Bel Canto eVO digital amp? (5.40)
Posted by Jon L on 2000-09-10, 17:43:11 (162.119.232.100)
Well, the Spectron is a great product;however, it needs to be mated with the synergistic components, especially speakers. My own speakers tend to be a bit laid back in midrange/upper mids, which is mo .......
116: Just One Difference...... (5.38)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2008-09-22, 01:50:41 (70.213.147.252)
I've received a lot of thanks for making people aware of pitch correction. To the point where I don't care if I end up going down in flames on this. Especially from one who now blames pitch correction .......
117: Ahh (5.38)
Posted by RGA on 2003-12-01, 20:10:31 (66.183.237.21)
Again I'm not denying the measurements.(I read the Royal Virtuoso review BTW) The "midrange magic" is exactly why Reference 3a is so popular. And naturally to get that "midrange magic" there will have .......
118: Re: Progress? WHAT progress? (5.37)
Posted by kentaja@yahoo.com on 2003-02-25, 12:54:03 (65.70.144.97)
The ESL has plenty of hi-frequency extension. Virtually flat past 20kHz. It has has plenty of bass(for a planar) down to about 45Hz or so. What is does not have is the typical boom, sizzle, muffle of .......
119: Re: Tube or Solid State, anyone? (5.36)
Posted by Allan on 2000-07-19, 15:44:21 (152.163.195.179)
I VERY STRONGLY suggest that you audition the Rowland 10. It sounds like the BEST tube amp from the midrange up and the BEST solid state amp in the bass. It has a beautiful midrange, pristine highs (a .......
120: According to the previous editor... (5.36)
Posted by mkuller on 2007-10-25, 14:02:51 (207.200.116.66)
..of The Absolute Sound, Harry Pearson, here is the way the frequency range is divided (at least for review purposes in that publication): Extreme bottom.............below 32 Hz Low bass, bottom octav .......
121: Like most everything else, it often depends... (5.35)
Posted by cdnull on 2002-05-16, 14:56:55 (168.99.166.2)
on what it is paired with. I heard it on Vienna Acoustics and SF Concerto speakers and there were some big differences right there-it was like two different pieces. In general, I found the Krell to ha .......
122: How about making midrange drivers out of starter solenoids and toilet plungers !? (5.34)
Posted by DaveL on 1999-09-28, 22:11:28 (204.60.55.52)
How about making midrange drivers out of starter solenoids and toilet plungers !? ( - bygones ) DaveL .......
123: Re: Tonal Shift? (5.34)
Posted by vocalion on 2005-08-16, 21:03:17 (209.193.72.29)
I too have noticed the sensation of "... an increase of volume..." when trying out certain tweaks. Perhaps most notable were the volume-raising effects that a green marker pen called "CD Stoplight" pr .......
124: maybe (5.34)
Posted by drclark on 2004-04-20, 18:31:49 (4.43.217.125)
Sounded best when ran in phase with the tweeter/midrange array on my Reimers (which are wired to be out of phase with the woofers) and not as good when ran out of phase with the tweeter/midrange array .......
125: Re: amps for kestrals?? (5.33)
Posted by Edp on 1999-05-05, 10:05:01 (192.73.8.199)
I know the drivers very well used in the kestrals (Vifa P17 Midbass and Peerless 0165 tweeter) and have heard the kestrals on some decent tube (Manley Labs and Golden tube) and decent solid state (Bry .......
126: RE: Help!? About to EQ my $2,000 Speakers. Avoiding Screw Ups. (5.33)
Posted by michaelhigh on 2012-09-18, 07:21:43 (75.132.135.194)
Here's the frequency breakdown: 16 - 40 hz - Low bass 40 - 100 hz - Mid bass 100 - 250 hz - High bass 250 - 500 hz - Lower midrange 500 - 1000 hz - Midrange 1000 - 2000 hz - Upper midrange 2000 - 3500 .......
127: Re: What CDP is more laid back in mids REGA PLANET or AH! TJOEB? (5.32)
Posted by Marc Bratton on 2000-02-12, 03:35:05 (205.184.135.208)
Bill:I don't think you'd WANT a CDP more "laid back in the midrange" than those two! I haven't had an Ah!Tjoeb CDP in my system yet (but hope to soon :}) but have lived with the Rega for 2 years now.I .......
128: Re: Pass Labs Aleph P (5.30)
Posted by Hyperion on 1999-05-10, 21:12:51 (208.169.145.10)
From a pure sonic point of view ... I think an Aleph P / SA100 is not a synergistic combo. The Aleph P sounds like an Aleph amplifier, clean sounding with a trace of MOSFETish sound in the midrange, l .......
129: Intensity vs. Loudness (5.28)
Posted by jj on 2002-06-04, 17:59:36 (207.207.243.104)
The Fletcher-Munson equal loudness curves are what you're observing. Some terms, though... Intensity -> The measured energy level in the air. Loudness -> The PERCIEVED strength of the signal, as evalu .......
130: Aleph 3 vs 1.2 (5.27)
Posted by Rich Maurin on 2002-01-02, 17:00:49 (63.17.126.221)
Hi All, I have been enjoying my Pass Aleph 3 and Aleph P preamp for the last 3 years. I just purchased a pair of loudspeakers that require additional power to control. The speakers sound wonderful in .......
131: RE: No low end impact (5.26)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2013-12-21, 17:47:37 (68.104.246.197)
When I was in college, someone in a dorm suite got some planar speakers. When the complaints came, I went into the neighboring suite.... The bass didn't offend at all, but the midrange went through th .......
132: Will high passing a midbass improve thermal power? (5.25)
Posted by Dan K. on 2000-06-11, 12:19:07 (208.159.50.85)
I know it would reduce the excursion and improve mechanical power, but if a midbass were limited to only midrange would it take more watts in midrange only before burning out than it would mid combo w .......
133: I like the detail, and have sought it out for years. Now I have it.. I am dying for some midrange warmth (5.25)
Posted by Elizabeth on 2014-04-18, 23:18:32 (65.28.166.198)
This may seem hilarious to you. I went for powerconditioners, cords, IC, better electronics. Magnepan ribbons.. All sorts ofstuff to finally getthat elusive perfect treble clarity. Now I am tryingto K .......
134: Loving Tubes (5.25)
Posted by mkuller on 2018-07-17, 10:02:34 (107.205.10.55)
...taking your question seriously, I haven't found a solid state amp I could live with that didn't have a too cool, clinical midrange and upper mid grain. I describe it as prefering tube distortion to .......
135: Midrange resolution beats fullrange resolution - sometimes. (5.24)
Posted by Abel McCain on 2008-01-23, 18:37:18 (69.144.220.120)
Some people insist that vinyl is not a true hi-rez format. I think that vinyl can provide the highest sense of vital extraction. More important, maybe, than absolute resolution is perceived resolution .......
136: How do you explain deeper and more powerful bass when the midrange stays the SAME level? (5.24)
Posted by Teresa on 2008-11-01, 17:18:54 (75.0.9.198)
If you decreased the bass on one cable to match the other then the other would have a more forward midrange. Same thing with better and more extended high frequency response between different cables, .......
137: Re: Need tube preamp help, desperately!!! (5.24)
Posted by Matthew G. on 2001-05-24, 15:07:44 (164.92.121.49)
If your source equipment and/or the recordings aren't getting the voice right, nothing else in the chain can really solve the problem. A romantic sounding pre-amp may fill in the midrange somewhat, bu .......
138: Do you have more information on your set up? (5.24)
Posted by Sordidman on 2003-09-09, 16:39:25 (64.84.58.19)
What source? What stands for speakers? (Did you get the stock stands with the speakers, - are they sand filled and screwed down tight? Do you have wooden flooring? Where are they located in the room? .......
139: In-your-face midrange can certainly make a big first impression. (5.24)
Posted by Dave VH on 1999-08-09, 20:16:52 (209.110.227.117)
Your reactions remind me of 1976, my big custom JBL system with a pair of Model 175 midrange drivers knocked me off my feet. Although I loved them at the time, I would have a hard time living with the .......
140: RE: Utilitarian I understand since RH makes living off it... (5.22)
Posted by Dave_K on 2019-06-02, 14:53:01 (71.232.142.235)
A dry acoustic isn't necessarily a problem for reviewing. When you measure RT60 vs. frequency, the flatness of the curve matters a lot more than the absolute level. The ideal reverberation time depend .......
141: I enjoy it very much. (5.20)
Posted by DragonEars on 2008-01-12, 14:48:46 (4.242.60.25)
I have the Jolida JD-1000RC driving a pair of modded MMGs. They are a match made in heaven. Tubes and Maggies... wonderful. I chose this amp because of it's power tubes (EL34), it's power (Maggies are .......
142: Re: A possible solution (5.19)
Posted by Rich on 2001-12-06, 05:36:09 (24.45.36.221)
***Now I have read that the original SC-IV's had some sort of problem in the upper midrange region that was fixed with a new crossover and midrange driver on the SC-IVA.*** That is not at all correct. .......
143: RE: The leap from mid-fi to hi-fi (5.19)
Posted by jogo79 on 2020-04-06, 13:57:20 (24.126.170.60)
I totally agree with you. I've always wondered why more companies don't focus more on perfecting the mid range in tonality and dispersion and then try not to do any damage with extending the highs and .......
144: Does volume have anything to do with it? (5.17)
Posted by jaybar on 2006-05-07, 06:14:27 (207.38.181.45)
I realized that I have been listening at significantly lower volumes (70db c weighted) than I used to when I had the Zoethecus racks. When I matched the volumes that I used to listen to, the sound is .......
145: RE: How to remove the midrange driver from Thiel CS7s (5.16)
Posted by me on 2009-07-31, 11:57:27 (98.64.192.122)
Hi, You simply unscrew the midrange screws. There is nothing holding it in. I believe there might be some grease like sealer but that's it. Once the screws are out you have to very very carefully pry .......
146: Re: More to Music than Flat FR (5.16)
Posted by Tom V. on 1999-04-05, 16:19:11 (208.138.185.213)
I am pleased with my system. While, as I indicated, I am new to this and probably have not developed "golden ears", I sure have gotten a lot of enjoyment from it. Originally, it seemed somewhat too b .......
147: Re: query about Dunlavy SCIVA (5.15)
Posted by Philip O'Hanlon on 1999-12-01, 11:54:45 (24.4.254.50)
I had a pair of SCIV for a couple of years, then the SCIVA for six months. If you'd like to try tube gear; there is a marvellous synergy with the BAT VK 60 monoblocks. Their VK500 is a compromise in c .......
148: Re: Senn HD580 vs. Grado SR325 (5.15)
Posted by Grundy on 2001-09-05, 18:41:00 (206.159.123.253)
I had a pair of Grado SR325's. They had a nice punchy low end, but the punch was there even when it shouldn't have been. I felt like I was straining to hear the midrange and treble over the bass, as .......
149: Re: Do wood blocks really help the lower mids? (5.14)
Posted by Jim Bookhard on 2000-06-27, 13:25:41 (63.21.238.43)
Hi Matthew, You can check the sonic characteristics of different woods (including mahogany) at Mike Vans Evers web site at the link below. Once at the link, scroll down to the section labelled "Tuning .......
150: RE: The 63s are easier to work with (5.13)
Posted by longtimequadowner on 2009-08-18, 08:54:47 (24.108.194.166)
That's going a bit far I think, "every area of performance" - until the ESL 63's match the surreal vividness of the ESL 57 midrange many will stick with the 57. I am no 63 expert but am working with a .......
151: Re: Said NO to tubes. Am I nuts? (5.13)
Posted by Rob on 2000-05-28, 03:54:08 (62.108.1.71)
Before buying my myryad integrated solid state, I also auditioned the Rega Mira, since this one also fell into my budget. What struck me were indeed the crispy highs and the smooth but fiery bass resp .......
152: It's a good thing those nozzles don't contribute any diffraction effects (!!)... (5.13)
Posted by Barry Kohan on 2004-07-24, 09:24:47 (66.27.163.93)
Those nozzles below the midrange and the huge one in front of the woofer can't be doing anything good for diffraction effects. Those protruding allen head bolts and the flat plate between the woofer s .......
153: Found the original owners' manual and sales brochure (5.12)
Posted by dlr on 1999-07-14, 19:08:14 (208.250.104.213)
Technical specs (FWIW): 8 ohms nominal Z XO Points: 400hz, 1khz, 6khz, 12.5khz Drivers: 10" Woofer 5" Lower midrange 1 3/4" Upper midrange, Soft dome 3/4" Dome tweeter Piezoelectric Supertweeter Freq .......
154: RE: Cardas Ayre Burn-in Disc Question (5.11)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2007-12-14, 20:53:23 (209.97.232.186)
Different systems will exhibit different sonic "symptoms" when they need the sweep tone to be run. The most common comments seems to be that the system "opens up" and has increased clarity and resolut .......
155: Re: What's wrong with it? (5.11)
Posted by Pitbull on 2005-04-05, 10:29:03 (67.127.192.152)
For one thing, Magnepan even admits that the balance between the ribbon tweeter and the midrange panel of the Tympani IV is wrong. That is why the Tympani IVA was brought out, with a larger midrange p .......
156: That midrange can be deceiving.... (5.11)
Posted by Doug Flynn on 2000-12-30, 22:25:16 (203.101.17.53)
Hi inmates I have used a Quad II / ESL 57 system too. Like Dave says, wonderful midrange. Regardless of your speakers, you just won't get any decent reproduction of frequency extremes from the Quad II .......
157: Aren't Mesh VV45 out yet? (5.10)
Posted by Jon L on 2002-03-27, 09:33:32 (162.119.232.100)
Didn't I see a picture of these on tube asylum? Do you know what the price is on the mesh VV45 vs. solid plate VV45? I would LOVE to get 3-3.5 watts. If you have the $$$, you may want to look into e- .......
158: Re: What's wrong with it? (5.10)
Posted by unclestu52 on 2005-04-05, 15:53:50 (63.16.102.69)
In my experience, the Blue Heaven has a slightly more analytical edge to it. You may want to try the cheaper copper flatline and it may give a slight high end reduction as well as a midrange boost. If .......
159: Re: JVC Nivico, AR3a, AR4ax ?worth restoring? (5.08)
Posted by Ross on 2000-06-01, 13:38:06 (208.243.96.98)
I would restore both the 4x and the 3A prs. The 4x is a nice small speaker, limited in both bottom and top end extension. Nice midrange. Would make great computer speakers or can be the basis for a ni .......
160: maybe...just maybe... (5.08)
Posted by kuma on 2002-05-14, 18:12:53 (12.247.145.72)
Ed, Have you consider JRDG's Model 112 or Concentra as an alternative? Indeed, Plinius' midband is hard to beat. While I've admired its midrange liquidity and resolutions, I had the same issue with SA .......
161: Very good question. (5.08)
Posted by edta on 2003-03-04, 20:26:48 (166.102.84.92)
Lately, I've been listening to a Music Ref. tube pre and power amp. A bit less transparent than the Pass Labs power amp I have. Musical values are there big time with these tube amps, though. My take .......
162: Most of the energy in jazz drumming is in the mids (5.07)
Posted by DaveK on 2009-06-10, 09:04:33 (173.48.195.96)
Same for rock except for the kick drum. When I listen to recorded or amplified drums, I miss the attack/peaks the most, but also the lower level resonances in the drums and decay of the cymbals. For m .......
163: RE: Speaker placement - Anyone used this method?? (5.07)
Posted by chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com on 2008-04-11, 10:17:01 (88.104.155.44)
It may work in theory, but having the speakers positioned so far away from the walls means it couldn't be done in anything other than a dedicated listening room, and of course some speakers benefit fr .......
164: Re: I had this amp, and (5.07)
Posted by Jon L on 2000-04-27, 17:18:19 (192.234.77.6)
Well, the bass on 555 II is powerful, deep, and pretty tight, but in most rooms, it probably is not of the utmost tightness. For example, my Spectron digital amp (500W into my 4 Ohms) has more defined .......
165: Think less of a reviewer if they DON'T have vinyl playback capability? (5.06)
Posted by thegage on 2001-09-20, 20:06:53 (140.186.114.115)
I could post this at the Vinyl forum, but then I know what the response would be! Besides, this seems like more of a general question. I was reading a review of speaker cables the other day where the .......
166: Who Cares??? (5.05)
Posted by Musicisthebest on 2002-11-15, 12:27:03 (65.24.130.100)
What is important is what sounds good to YOU. Just because a musician likes a certain speaker or audio component doesn't mean that YOU will! I'd imagine that a bass player is going to put a preference .......
167: Re: Spot on Suzy - my wife is the same (5.05)
Posted by Suzy on 2000-02-29, 10:20:49 (209.138.237.148)
I have a male audiophile friend with a Krell/B&W system that sounds too bright to me, actually kind of annoying. When he listens to my system, he tells me he wishes the preamp had a treble control so .......
168: Well............................................. (5.05)
Posted by Kal Rubinson on 2019-04-02, 13:44:29 (100.2.241.137)
1. Yes, I did misread your post and thought that you were referring to the tweeter. 2. The only other consumer speaker that I can recall using a Beryllium cone midrange was offered by TAD. 3. Paradigm .......
169: 10 speakers for the price of 4! (5.04)
Posted by BS64 on 2010-11-19, 03:25:33 (192.94.94.106)
I found this amusing, and knew others would as well. This is copied from an ad for a "vintage" Fisher system on Craigslist in the DFW area: Fisher 4 way speaker system includes: Two 3 way Floor Speake .......
170: A complex Bi-amping/Line Level Crossover Question (5.04)
Posted by Roy3 on 2002-10-30, 16:26:51 (24.196.11.142)
So here is the dilemma. I spent a lot of money on a superb tube preamp (BAT VK-50SE) but I want to biamp my Magnepan MG20.1 speakers with two amps of differing voltage gain (Aragon Palladium II’s and .......
171: RE: Nice! (5.03)
Posted by Dave B on 2019-04-02, 04:39:17 (99.179.149.37)
Hey Rod! It's truly a clever design. You ought to watch the video on how they form the cabinet too. As great as the room correction is and how deep the bass goes... the REAL magic in my opinion, is t .......
172: CES - Stefan (5.03)
Posted by Edp on 2001-01-10, 15:17:16 (161.34.75.46)
Stefan - ProAc Future 0.5 ProAc 0.5 (forgot to write electronics down bad sign here, could have been AR gear) Eton Ribbon, SEAS Excel midrange in dipole loading, Scan Speak 8545 carbon fiber in enclos .......
173: RE: OK, took me a while to figure out what you were getting at (5.02)
Posted by goober58 on 2011-10-25, 18:57:07 (70.162.10.64)
"Tight bass, for example. Neutral midrange. Silky highs. " Not sure how you can determine accuracy from these comments - (neutral midrange excepted) just as easily could be a system coloration. Tight .......
174: Haven't heard the HD650 but.. (5.01)
Posted by kuma on 2004-11-19, 22:53:56 (24.12.104.209)
*They sound very laid back, with recessed midrange and rolled off highs. Bass is strong but not detailed.* that seems to be the general house sound of Senn. I haven't heard the HD650, but heard HD600 .......
175: Cabasse 55ND (5.01)
Posted by Edp on 2000-01-11, 09:53:48 (192.73.8.199)
Raven R3 ribbon, PBN Midrange, Cabasse 55ND in the ORCA room. It was a small room with LARGE speakers and lots of drivers from Focal, Cabasse, PBN. I have raved about the 55ND in the past having heard .......
176: Re: Speakers! (nt) (4.99)
Posted by LarryI on 2002-10-04, 06:32:48 (65.205.15.215)
For the commonly available speakers, I think there has been a significant improvement in sound, particularly at the value end of the price scale. However, the best sound I've heard still comes from so .......
177: RE: So, ahmm, why are YOU in this hobby? (4.99)
Posted by Todd Krieger on 2017-07-22, 03:44:56 (24.255.4.240)
"Or to listen to musicians making music without questionable interference, which is what this hobby started out as, and remains, for me." This is a requisite for high-fidelity sound reproduction..... .......
178: RE: Dumb Q'n how many filters has the signal driving a tweeter 'seen' (been affected by) before it gets to the HP (4.99)
Posted by rick_m on 2012-08-06, 21:11:38 (96.25.74.167)
"how effective are the high-pass elements at protecting a tweeter, or midrange driver from excess power, e.g. from a pulled IC when we forget to shut the amp down / turn it down?" In general further t .......
179: RE:Which Western Electric speaker? (4.99)
Posted by Larry I on 2015-08-31, 05:48:01 (38.100.19.236)
The speaker cabinet was a recent build that followed, precisely, the plans for a Western Electric Step Horn. The 18" Jensen driver is very much like a Western driver (Jensen actually built such driver .......
180: Did you also audition the KSA-150 in your home system? (4.98)
Posted by TAFKA Steve on 2000-03-29, 05:11:21 (209.51.192.9)
I ask this because a) I don't trust opinions on electronics gathered during show or dealer demonstrations, and b) a generic branding of a manufacturer's products does not address the specific strength .......
181: My sentiments exactly. (4.98)
Posted by Dave VH on 2000-03-01, 17:35:18 (63.194.80.83)
Even with conventional 2 or 3-way systems, crossing over to a SS-powered sub at 60Hz or so, although difficult to match in all details, would seem to be the most logical way to go. I agree that most .......
182: Yes, you're correct. (4.98)
Posted by PriyaW on 2002-03-03, 13:59:37 (140.226.116.192)
This is no accident. I think most of the Rock/Pop and some jazz CDs tend to sound "bright." So, it is natural for the speaker designers to take something out at the top to compensate for it. Some spea .......
183: Re: Some good ones, some bad ones (4.97)
Posted by Pat D on 2000-03-03, 13:46:22 (198.103.184.3)
I think that's a very good point. The way I look at it is that a really good speaker will show what is there but will not exaggerate the faults. Really accurate speakers will not sound too bad even wi .......
184: Re: Is the Bose that screwed up the sound of your system. nt (4.97)
Posted by jcomm on 2003-03-29, 19:26:57 (68.97.90.128)
Can you be more specific? Are you saying the Bose caused my Nakamichi to fail? I just hooked up a different receiver to the speakers and they work.. except for the front right. It sounds like one of t .......
185: Re: Reference 3a - Subjective vs Measurement and Stereophile. (4.97)
Posted by Pat D on 2003-12-02, 08:28:43 (24.230.192.3)
Well, lets see. There are probably about 400 speakers on my short list based on the my experience with the manufacturer, the manufacturer's reputation, recommendations from reviewers and friends, and .......
186: Re: I have a gripe (advice to newbies!).. (4.96)
Posted by hurdy_gurdyman on 2002-06-01, 10:23:25 (216.93.110.14)
Many times it is small, barely noticable differences that can make a big difference in listening enjoyment. Lets say you have a CD player with a somewhat harsh upper midrange. You replace it with one .......
187: Re: What kind of comparisons are you looking for ? (4.95)
Posted by skady on 2002-03-21, 04:21:03 (212.12.228.230)
John, If you own the Plinius SA-250 then the best bet, if you won't be able to audition both preamps, is to go for the CD-LAD. The CD-LAD will be optimum with its power amp. The famous Plinius sound, .......
188: Re: Help on Amplifer Selection (4.94)
Posted by ggraff on 2002-04-19, 11:28:59 (204.124.92.254)
You already have a pretty serious system, so I would look at other things other than the amp. I used to have Shunyatas' in my system, but found that overtime they were too sterile for my taste. I woul .......
189: Maybe it's a blessing in disguise (4.93)
Posted by caspian@peak.org on 2010-06-09, 08:24:59 (66.178.138.158)
While differences among speakers can be gross and obvious, down into the midrange and the bass, the comparatively tiny differences among properly functioning electronics -- which some audiophiles neur .......
190: Question on old big power solid state amp with recessed midrange..... (4.93)
Posted by jon B on 2000-02-29, 20:35:24 (205.175.225.22)
I pick up an old crown dc-300a amp at a pawn shop. The midrange seems to be 6 feet back behind the speakers ? Guitar sounds good, solo voice good unless more than a few instruments playing at a time. .......
191: still looking for user experiences with Ayre amps (4.93)
Posted by kuma on 2001-08-13, 11:08:59 (199.221.98.4)
Curious, I have not recieved any responces concerning impressions of Ayre amps in general. Perhaps, I'll be more specific, this time. Can the V3 drive relatively difficult load of under 4ohm with a c .......
192: 'We live in the midrange' - PWK (4.90)
Posted by darkstar on 2002-11-02, 19:26:29 (63.226.153.104)
I would disagree that bass is the most satisfying aspect. I lean more towards PWK, as I believe that most of human hearing acuity centers around the range from 400Hz-5Khz. I am sure that the pundits w .......
193: Re: Why would you use a poor recording to demo stereo gear... (4.90)
Posted by ak645 on 2002-03-28, 12:20:49 (209.240.222.132)
Hi Steve, When demo'ing Speakers I bring along Aerosmith "Greatest Hits".Possibly the Worst Recording Ever.When I find something that Sounds Great with my audiophile discs, especially if It has a sed .......
194: Re: Can you determine if a componet is "bright" of "laid back"? (4.90)
Posted by Pat D on 1999-06-30, 19:09:40 (198.103.184.3)
Actually, I think both terms refer to frequency response, but they have no precise meaning, Robert Harley or no. Bright generally refers to a rise in the upper midrange. Laid back generally refers to .......
195: If you have separate... (4.90)
Posted by Rich on 2000-06-02, 14:42:38 (24.188.119.158)
binding posts on each speaker (generally a set for the woofer and a separate set for the tweeter or midrange/tweeter), you can horizontally biamp, using a separate stereo amp or two monoblocks on each .......
196: Attn 4B-ST Owners (4.90)
Posted by EProven on 2001-11-14, 22:05:54 (207.61.132.253)
I would like some recomendations on a pre-amp for the 4bst. Given that I see GREAT reviews on the trebble and bass response and control this amp gives, and not so great reviews on it's midrange capabi .......
197: Legacy Audio (4.89)
Posted by Joe Murphy Jr on 2002-07-14, 17:21:48 (66.157.38.139)
I own a pair of the Focus speakers (pre-20/20 version). I have listened to the Focus and Whisper in Orlando, FL (they had set up a 2-day audition site near Disney). My advice to you is this: listen fo .......
198: Krell Krell 300IL Integrated Amplifier (SS) (4.89)
Posted by ggraff on 2002-03-25, 05:48:13 (204.124.92.254)
I have heard this unit in my system and I believe it is a very good product, but I would hardly say its perfect which is what your review implies- no weaknesses? It has good soundstaging but lacks the .......
199: Compromise is a dirty word... (4.88)
Posted by edta on 2001-12-04, 18:57:55 (162.39.8.58)
in the asylum. Let's just say that I do not want a symphony orchestra in my living room. A jazz combo, perhaps. String quartet, yes. Solo vocal and piano, perhaps. Rock concert, no way! I'm not wearin .......
200: Be more specific - is it bright? (4.88)
Posted by dpy on 2002-11-16, 09:45:47 (209.245.13.6)
You indicate something about tonal balance and speculate about the room being part of the problem. Are you saying that things are a bit bright and abrasive on the upper registers? Isn't the Response 2 .......
Found 200 records in Amp/Preamp Asylum.
1: Re: VTL 450 v. Wolcott Presence (6.47)
Posted by Jwm on 2006-06-19, 15:27:54 (68.43.224.184)
I don't know what you are looking for in a amp. Both sound different. The VTL is naturally warm in the midrange where the other amp is a little leaner in the midrange. Some may feel the Wolcott is tig .......
2: Yes, SLP-98 has better midrange! (6.47)
Posted by ilkwon on 2003-06-05, 13:51:23 (141.213.137.19)
I am not saying Cary in general lacks magical midrange. SLP-98 or even SLP-50B has wonderful midrange, even without using NOS tubes. Of course, all depends on the system. If you already have an amp an .......
3: Re: Krell (6.13)
Posted by dselek on 2003-07-06, 18:38:11 (24.90.229.136)
I think the biggest improvment in the x series over the original FPB is the midrange. With the x series the midrange has more relaxed presentation and absolutely more real. A little hard to dicribe bu .......
4: EL34 midrange, very nice (5.97)
Posted by DragonEars on 2009-05-31, 21:33:43 (63.24.124.194)
EL34 tubes have a rich, lush midrange. When looking for a new amp I specifically listened to EL34 amps because of their beautiful midrange. Generally, 6550 and KT88 amps have tighter bass and more ene .......
5: Re: Anyone auditioned Krell KAV series amps like KAV-2250? (5.87)
Posted by Tourist on 2005-05-28, 08:21:07 (218.111.193.201)
I upgraded from a Plinius 8200 with excellent midrange to the 400xi with Maggie speaker. As A.J. mentioned, it's very powerful and has SS sound. I liked it overall except the midrange initally. Couldn .......
6: RE: Paging Charles Hansen-Wood Blocks and Recessed Midrange (5.55)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2007-09-14, 21:38:42 (209.97.232.186)
Sorry, Jaybar, I can't really help you here. I'm not familiar with the sound of the Solid Steel racks. I don't think there is anything you can do with the wood blocks except for (as Uncle Stu pointed .......
7: Re: Best Integrated for Midrange - Suggestions please! (5.51)
Posted by Justlisten2 on 2006-11-10, 23:00:43 (148.177.1.213)
Overall I'm happier with my Jeff Rowland Concentra II, but if it's just the midrange that you seek, one of the VAC Avatar series wins hands down. Just a beautiful, lush midrange. I had the Avatar Supe .......
8: Klipsch! (5.40)
Posted by Cambiocorsa on 2003-07-12, 23:00:09 (156.56.124.84)
Rock, jazz, blues - you won't go wrong with the Paradigm or the Klipsch. From what I remember, the Paradigm has a bigger soundstage and is more lush in the midrange. The Klipsch is very even-handed th .......
9: Re: Why has Krell become so controversial? (5.33)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2005-06-26, 10:32:40 (67.176.119.211)
I can tell you with certainty that the KAV-2250 is an outstanding amp as I own one. However, compared to the much older KSA-50S that I also owned, the KAV-2250 is not nearly as 'sweet' in the midrange .......
10: I second 20.6 (5.26)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-06-11, 15:09:54 (162.119.232.100)
very inspiring looking innards, too. I haven't seen one for If you don't like "recessed midrange," recent CX series Krell amps do everything Levinsons do with a bit more midrange presence IMO... ::: T .......
11: RE: I tend to disagree (5.22)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2011-05-15, 18:54:55 (174.51.211.143)
Are you trying to convince me and others that passive linestages are inferior in the lower-midrange? Or are you asking for our input? I already gave you mine. Let me just say that I stand by my findin .......
12: Re: Krell "KAV" power amp lean midrange? (5.19)
Posted by A.J. on 2005-06-06, 13:41:50 (80.58.9.235)
Yes, the KAV amps lack armonic richness in the midrange and have a certain agressiveness in the lower treble. A tube preamp can help, but it won't solve the agressiveness issue, and also "repairing" a .......
13: RE: Anyone own a Pioneer sa-7800 or something close?(midrange question) (5.15)
Posted by airtime on 2008-02-17, 11:53:46 (69.253.104.205)
I had either that one or at least similar in THAT series. YES it is midrange light. And tends to open up at higher volumes. Seems this line was more a "night club" type amp. charles .......
14: Anyone own a Pioneer sa-7800 or something close?(midrange question) (5.14)
Posted by pola on 2008-02-17, 09:25:13 (80.193.157.109)
Been using one of these with some b&w 601 s2's and noticed the midrange sounds scooped,it seems to be all bass and treble.I listen to a lot of rock music and guitar solos are really pushed back and so .......
15: Re: Tried the Sim Audio Moon P-5 (5.11)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2004-04-05, 22:40:21 (67.165.226.114)
I think I understand why you might like the Pass preamp a little more than the P-5. I have a pair of Tannoy D500's and they are fairly 'robust' sounding speakers on their own. Coupled with gear that h .......
16: Best Integrated for Midrange - Suggestions please! (5.09)
Posted by grant_smiley on 2006-11-01, 05:48:27 (206.53.242.231)
I am curious what integrated amps excel in the midrange department. My price range is under $3000 (new or used). I listen to a lot of female vocals, and acoustic music. Thanks! .......
17: Agree - I like my Odyssey Stratos Extreme stereo amp a lot... (5.08)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2005-07-16, 23:07:46 (24.9.231.190)
...It's more 'balanced' across the board with nice midrange compared to my more expensive Krell KAV-2250 250wpc amp. The Krell is especially fast with good transient impact and bass slam but it's a li .......
18: Compromises compromises. A crying shame. (5.06)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2009-08-20, 11:26:48 (174.51.210.194)
Have you "matured" or just given up and settled? I would argue that you can have outstanding midrange without giving up on excellent bass and treble extension. Sure, if I had to trade something for th .......
19: extension and midrange - together at last (5.04)
Posted by hinduclient on 2008-02-18, 12:05:49 (24.9.98.103)
Our experiences are very similar. The 300x is sonically very close to the VK-20 and the 30se is close to the 50se. My findings align with yours. The 42se closes the gap between the solid state extensi .......
20: blown out midrange (5.04)
Posted by westy on 2004-11-18, 09:35:50 (64.241.131.3)
Need help with my current system. I've got: Conrad Johnson PV10 Preamp Conrad Johnson Sonographe CD Adcom GFA 5300 Amp Velodyne VA 1008 Sub Epos M12 Speakers Right now the midrange is pretty blown out .......
21: Agree with you.... (5.03)
Posted by Pinkus on 2006-05-22, 21:30:00 (199.72.97.65)
>>I home auditioned an MV60SE, but I thought it was actually a bit too hot and forward in the upper midrange and treble with the Premier 17LS. The amp has a midrange and treble glare which reminds me .......
22: I'm with Marc - it's the midrange (5.01)
Posted by E-Stat on 2003-03-11, 11:50:00 (24.99.45.50)
It took me twenty years to fully understand what HP says about getting the midrange right first. I have heard precious few SS units (and those are all beyond my budget) that retain the harmonic integr .......
23: Paging Charles Hansen-Wood Blocks and Recessed Midrange (4.98)
Posted by jaybar on 2007-09-14, 20:26:35 (207.38.215.203)
Hi Charles- I have been using the Ayre wood blocks on and off. What I am noticing with my Solidsteel 6.4 rack is a decidedly recessed midrange and instruments lacking in body, when I use the Ayre wood .......
24: I’m still using mine to drive my Thiel, Martin Logan and Acoustat... (4.98)
Posted by millen on 2005-10-26, 11:57:00 (142.56.5.23)
speakers as good as the Krell, Classe’ and Sonic Frontiers that I was using before this amp just surpassed them in terms of midrange gloriousness. The way I see it if an amp doesn’t do the midrange ri .......
25: Thank you but (4.97)
Posted by Kevin 2 on 2003-05-16, 16:56:01 (212.179.232.210)
i heard the Trente with much amplifier like Audion 12 watt, old Audio Aero (non the new) and it's sound good, but close in the midrange... it's heard as it's speakers need a lot of drive in the midran .......
26: 2nd the Cary SLP-05. (4.97)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2008-07-29, 12:43:39 (67.177.242.32)
...Although I don't know what "fleshed out" means, it's an incredible preamp! As for "fleshed out" midrange, I find that most vacuum tube preamps have no problem with the midrange. It's getting everyt .......
27: Re: Need Advice - Pass X-1 or BAT VK30 or ? (4.97)
Posted by Ben Mcc on 2002-11-24, 07:16:35 (12.81.160.234)
The CARY 2002 IS NOT ROLLED OFF AT ALL. In fact it is sweat in the upper end With good bass ho did I mention that midrange HOOOOO that MIDRANGE. All I can say is it is mutch better than ARC LS25 MRK2I .......
28: RE: 14 years ago this month, it received a non-recommendation in Stereophile. (4.94)
Posted by hansen on 2007-11-03, 05:33:17 (80.63.196.222)
Is that test available somewhere? I'd like to know what they did not like about it. I guess the clear and prominent midrange is not everybody's cup of tea, some people might prefer the recessed midran .......
29: 5814 (4.94)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-08-18, 11:57:52 (162.119.232.100)
I believe the Unico comes with Philips 5814a, which is a decent but not special tube. In fact, I can't think of any Philips tubes I've tried that I liked. Mullards do have a very airy, lush midrange b .......
30: So true... (4.91)
Posted by erik on 2017-10-19, 17:52:51 (76.19.10.168)
... I have the pv-15, and it doesn't have that midrange lush, but sounds very engaging. Premier 17 had the similar kind of midrange. I was considering to getting it, but couldn't take that annoying vo .......
31: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.90)
Posted by Mr Peabody on 2012-06-08, 22:42:39 (74.61.219.98)
From their fans to their critics, Conrad Johnson is synonomous with "glorious midrange". Which model depends on what you want to spend, the MV60 with EL-34's is an extremely musical amp and stands out .......
32: Re: Placette vs First Sound vs AS vs Ref Line (4.87)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2003-09-05, 16:27:12 (12.252.236.227)
I had excellent results with the Placette linestage which is the 3-input version of their passive volume control. The midrange and midbass were certainly not MIA in my setup and it was very transparen .......
33: RE: Anyone own a Pioneer sa-7800 or something close?(midrange question) (4.87)
Posted by bass1000rms on 2008-04-24, 08:51:52 (86.132.128.206)
hey i recently got one of thease amps off the local skip i found if you haves a smaller set of speakers on the rear output and have all playing at same time it sounds great but just with 2 it dose lac .......
34: Which compromise do you want to make? (4.86)
Posted by E-Stat on 2020-08-01, 13:05:43 (206.255.201.68)
Switchers still fail at the top. And I've discovered they don't like challenging speaker loads. What they get right is the midrange. More than comparatively priced AB amps. The Hypex Ncore in the gara .......
35: It's all about flavor... (4.86)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2011-06-01, 08:19:22 (174.51.211.143)
True. The midrange is excellent on the Brystons and probably more accurate. I love the sound of EL34 tubes but who's to say they are 'accurate'. I believe they are 'flavored' toward the warm, rich, an .......
36: VTL TL2.5 Preamp (4.85)
Posted by sept79 on 2006-07-23, 13:43:39 (24.107.33.129)
I am about to replace the tubes in my 2.5 preamp. Any suggestions? I am attempting to tame a somewhat elevated midrange/upper midrange. Also, any suggestions as to ICs? I am currently using the Audien .......
37: How was the Nait 5i with the Compact 7? (4.84)
Posted by kuma on 2005-03-28, 20:54:12 (24.12.104.209)
As much as it would give the Harbeth some kick in the arse, I thought the midrange might be served better with other amps mentioned elsewhere for the original poster's need. Plinius or Rowland amps so .......
38: RE: SLI-80 Signature vs SLI-80 F1 Direct Coupled (4.84)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2008-03-26, 08:12:37 (71.196.223.228)
What do you mean by midrange is the clue? Are the EL34 more or less harmonically rich in the midrange compared to the 6550 or KT88 in the SLI-80? .......
39: Re: Tube Sound From Solid State Amp (4.83)
Posted by hairydog on 2007-01-25, 07:05:37 (12.40.175.147)
There is a certain quality in the midrange that tubes do better than anything. Class A solid state can get pretty close to a tube midrange and deliver tighter bass and a cleaner top end as well. At le .......
40: Re: Still, I was surprised (4.81)
Posted by djk on 2005-02-27, 22:58:45 (208.252.113.80)
I'm not sure what their test load is, but it looks pretty bad. A Klipschorn is an interesteng load, it goes from 4 ohms in the bass to over 30 ohms in the midrange (this would cause a couple of dB of .......
41: Cat Scratch Fever..... (4.79)
Posted by pro_ac628 on 2006-03-08, 15:32:53 (68.43.155.213)
Rock on,ok hows the midrange on the VT100MKII close enough to the CJ11A to live with? Oh and that soundstage is it as big as the CJ11A. AES sixpacks you say they have great bass,awesome midrange,are t .......
42: You can't go wrong... (4.79)
Posted by nickwh on 2003-12-20, 07:05:06 (68.193.144.77)
As a new owner of an 8100 (predecessor of the 9100), I can tell you that Plinius makes a fine integrated. Very warm, yet still detailed and extended in the frequencey extremes. Powerful and controlled .......
43: RE: Onkyo A-9555 vs NAD C372? (4.79)
Posted by airtime on 2014-07-10, 06:49:52 (68.54.136.2)
Heck, get both! Even if you don't like the NAD it has a wonderful power amp built in. That can be used, with great results!, with a passive. Like my one setup. I find the NAD amps to be quite transpar .......
44: The midrange is a no brainer. Easy to do (4.78)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2011-05-30, 07:59:23 (174.51.211.143)
Midrange is certainly very important and most any tube amp can do midrange right. It's not a big deal and the easy route is to grab a tube amp. I've owned a number of tube amps that have met the midra .......
45: Hi Jai, no, - not in my opinion anyway.... (4.77)
Posted by Sordidman on 2004-02-22, 20:45:01 (67.101.99.84)
The 300i is a special amplifier... It's not for everybody, - it is very agressive. But if you want bass slam and aggression, - than that Krell, - and the 500 are for you. If you're playing agressive m .......
46: I love midrange but (4.75)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2009-08-18, 16:32:38 (174.51.210.194)
...I also crave deep impactful bass, transparency, detail, and an overall very powerful and dynamic presentation. The most wonderful midrange I have ever experienced came from a modest pair of AES/Car .......
47: Nick ,you may want to ... (4.75)
Posted by Scott 2.6/R on 2006-06-20, 09:51:36 (24.82.84.53)
contact Schweikert who posted below regarding the laid back midrange of the VTL amps. You definitely don't want a laid back midrange with the 2.6's. I would be looking for a tube amp with more presenc .......
48: Re: Rocket 88 and EL34's (4.74)
Posted by DannyB on 2005-03-27, 17:51:58 (24.74.153.73)
The EL34s as a group will have a bit nicer midrange as compared to KT88s which tend to have a little more power. If you don't need the power then stick with the EL34s. The other option to consider is .......
49: Re: same with the new cj pre amps (4.70)
Posted by Hyperion on 2006-03-24, 08:41:38 (202.73.169.138)
I dont think the ACT2 and CT5 have lost the midrange magic - especially when hooked up to the new LP70s. The magic is not in the warmth per se but in good midrange dynamic expression. The key to to ge .......
50: Re: Pairing an Anthem Amp-1 with B&W CDM 1NT's (4.70)
Posted by Sordidman on 2003-02-04, 22:04:02 (64.172.104.56)
I used to own the 1NT. It is a very agressive speaker, - the midrange, or a smooth midrange is not really it's strongest attribute, - IMO. I would mate it with an amp that is smooth and strong in the .......
51: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.70)
Posted by abs1 on 2012-06-09, 07:04:31 (98.127.192.34)
Glorious midrange? The Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum intergrated with the KT120 output tubes will fill the bill. Especially if you hook it up to a pair of Tekton Design M-Lore towers. Audio nirvana at a .......
52: Re: Best Amp you have Owned Or... H2O (4.67)
Posted by aljordan on 2006-08-09, 06:16:55 (204.10.46.254)
H2O S250 Signature - extended, powerful, liquid and smooth. Granted, I don't have megabucks to compair this amp to amplifiers that cost as much as cars, but this amp gives you liquid midrange, very go .......
53: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.66)
Posted by Lord Soth on 2012-06-12, 08:19:58 (218.186.17.231)
Any SE tube amp which uses EL34s as output tubes. Just pop in a couple of Mullard Xf2 EL34s for glorious midrange and kick-ass bass! .......
54: Re: blown out midrange (4.65)
Posted by G Squared on 2004-11-18, 10:46:54 (129.6.105.211)
How is the sub connected to the system? This can have a dramatic impact on midrange performance. I would look at adjustments to speaker position, sub x-over/configuration and room treatment (especiall .......
55: RE: De Havilland Ultraverve 3 and Rogue Audio (4.65)
Posted by airtime on 2021-01-05, 06:49:34 (24.251.225.215)
I see from your system that you are currently using a Mac 7150. I think one of the tubed Rogue amps would sound wonderful with that preamp. The Class D hybrids may be too much of a shock to your liste .......
56: Marantz and NAD compared (4.64)
Posted by airtime on 2014-01-13, 06:50:32 (68.54.136.2)
I have both the Marantz PM8004 and NADc326BEE. I have tried the phono sections on both with limited use. I find both VERY quite, detailed and excellent imaging. Tonal differences are: NAD is cleaner s .......
57: ...what you're looking for sonically ... (4.64)
Posted by littlebobby on 2010-07-01, 10:31:26 (70.251.130.234)
Yes...that's a good question. I like the smoothness and clear midrange I hear in the old ProAc speakers, more than anything. I think the PS Audio DLIII has a bit of that. I like the ARC tube gear, aga .......
58: Two thoughts..... (4.63)
Posted by rp1@surfnetusa.com on 2004-02-07, 11:54:33 (67.30.103.101)
Did you try the new amp with it sitting on the old one? If you do that the power transformer will couple with the one on the other amp and create some god-awful aberations in the sound. I have done th .......
59: As I got older detail and resolutions now means... (4.62)
Posted by airtime on 2016-01-18, 06:01:43 (73.199.13.242)
hearing more in the midrange levels. More detail and mostly more dynamics of the SECOND string instruments. Those subtle smaller background details. That means you ARE getting more information into yo .......
60: Re: My tube amp died....which got me thinking? (4.62)
Posted by sogood on 2003-03-28, 13:05:16 (68.60.140.224)
I have not run across a ss that sounded like tubes but did notice a big improvement in midrange and 3-D soundstage when I bought a really good passive. (reminded me of some really good tubed pre's I .......
61: I have (4.61)
Posted by enzo on 2005-01-07, 15:13:50 (64.114.216.253)
The Pathos was more harmonically rich, more musical, and more natural sounding from the midrange up, but was lacking in bass weight. Still a nice amp for a small room, though. The DK Design only laste .......
62: Re: I just bought a Panasonic XR-45 for a hundred bucks. (4.60)
Posted by SoftwireEngineer on 2004-07-18, 15:36:47 (192.138.150.249)
What model do you have ? I have the XR50. With the stock power cord, the midrange is a bit recessed. It was difficult for me to listen to because, I was used to listening to the midrange heavy ultra-s .......
63: I was an idiot! (4.60)
Posted by scruffy_ on 2017-01-13, 01:53:51 (104.172.19.114)
All three modes do work! The problem was just how I read the instruction without actually trying it out! Re-read my edited opening post where I pointed my error out. I also think that what I have been .......
64: Re: Best Integrated for Midrange - Suggestions please! (4.59)
Posted by jdwaudio on 2006-11-01, 09:39:57 (69.120.100.253)
A few suggestions: Sonneteer Orton: a marvelous integrated with superior midrange and excellent drive YBA Integre DT or Integre Passion: very neutral with excellent resolution; a little drier than the .......
65: UPDATE ON OUTLAW 2150 (4.58)
Posted by Frank I on 2009-04-11, 16:04:47 (68.32.151.53)
Been listening all day. I decided to hook it up to my cj Premier 11a and its a good match. However I lost the bass punch and noticibly less power. I gained the focus and magical midrange of the CJ. I .......
66: Re: Conrad Johnson and McCormack (4.57)
Posted by Belgarchi on 2004-07-09, 22:04:18 (69.22.57.32)
Hi, I am using a SonoGraphe SA250 with B&W Matrix 802s2. I love the midrange (the speakers AND the power amp are excellent in the midrange), but the bass are not perfect, and I wonder if your DNA-125 .......
67: Re: CJ MV-75a1 vs VTL ST-85 tube amps (4.57)
Posted by stevenk on 2005-07-16, 05:24:31 (70.242.138.64)
I currently use the ST-85 in a biamp setup running my midrange and high frequencies. I use a pair of VTL MB-125 monoblocks on my bass drivers. I'm very pleased with the VTL sound and have used them fo .......
68: RE: Rogue Hybrid Class D - Medusa & Hydra amps - Anyone heard these? (4.56)
Posted by Daverz on 2012-08-06, 12:30:49 (66.75.252.221)
I had the Medusa at home for a weekend, and was very impressed by it's upper midrange detail and air, though the midrange and bass were a bit disappointing compared to my M-180s. I later noticed that .......
69: agreed (4.56)
Posted by DC STEVE on 2006-01-28, 09:33:27 (68.239.124.222)
the 140 would rock harder than the cary 805c. i have both, and am choosing to keep the cary, but i listen to lower volumes, and to more jazz, piano and vocals. the cary excels here. but for control, g .......
70: Re: Mark Levinson no. 383 Intergrated Amp - Not Lifeless.....But Unforced (4.55)
Posted by chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com on 2005-07-30, 09:18:36 (80.41.103.141)
I use the F30s with four 100 watt E.A.R. 509 valve amps (one monobloc for tweeter/midrange, one for bass) and would definitely recommend that you had separate amplification for the bass drivers as thi .......
71: Krell "KAV" power amp lean midrange? (4.55)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2005-06-06, 13:35:04 (67.176.119.211)
I'm presently playing with a Krell KAV 280p preamp coupled to the Krell KAV-2250 250wpc power amp. It has incredible power, dynamics, and tight deep bass and an overall very pleasing sound even up in .......
72: Re: GENERALLY, EL34-based amps (the ...55) will have a bit more tonal richness in the midrange while... (4.55)
Posted by kevinw on 2005-10-06, 12:44:59 (209.213.198.25)
the monitor speaker sensitivity is 88db This is my 2nd system, not completely setup, without an AMP :) but in general I like more warmth & lushness in midrange rather than tight extended or to some ex .......
73: Re: Cary Audio... (4.54)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2003-07-26, 11:14:11 (192.18.98.64)
The 6.2 that I auditioned seemed to have a strong midrange emphasis and sounded a bit rolled off. This was in the same dealer showroom with the same electronics when I was comparing Tannoy, Soliloquy, .......
74: Re: HCA-2 (4.53)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2006-02-05, 10:43:31 (67.176.116.152)
If I were to compare the PS Audio HCA-2 vs the NuForce Ref 8 or Ref 9 I could summarize the whole thing with just a few words - Transparency and Treble Extension. The NuForce is more transparent not .......
75: RE: Were they broken? (4.52)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2009-05-23, 18:03:09 (67.177.242.32)
Well, I liked the Premier 11a except in the bass and it's kind of polite dynamics. I imagine those are two areas where the Outlaw excels so one tends to immediately notice those characteristics but I' .......
76: RE: Then you'll wait a long time. (4.51)
Posted by Gregg on 2007-11-06, 13:57:46 (63.149.69.174)
It was the characterization of a clear and prominent midrange" that prompted me to comment. I spoke from my own experience, and not a rumor. The DC300 and DC75 were power amp models then. Are they sti .......
77: I must add (4.51)
Posted by A.J. on 2005-03-31, 09:10:41 (80.58.9.235)
that those are my impressions just regarding the midrange and from a memmory comparison between 300 and 400 but in the whole picture of the 400, the midrange is not recessed, it sounds like "warmed-up .......
78: RE: Paging Charles Hansen-Wood Blocks and Recessed Midrange (4.50)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2007-09-15, 10:58:21 (209.97.232.186)
> The last track is just like the first track, but runs for 5 minutes instead of 1 minute. The longer track does a *slightly* better job, but I personally don't have the patience. I just use the firs .......
79: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.50)
Posted by conde on 2012-06-09, 08:09:02 (68.121.33.135)
If interested in EL34 amplifiers, Gold Lion (re-issue) KT77s will offer more refinement than most EL34s. The current Russian KT77s sound superb, and may provide the combination of a glorious midrange .......
80: Re: Need opinion on tube amp (4.50)
Posted by stevenk on 2002-12-26, 13:39:34 (205.188.208.104)
I've only heard the VTL MB-125 which I use to drive a pair of Magnepan MG-12's. The VTL sound is neutral with tight, deep bass, a very smooth, liquid midrange and clean smooth highs. I would compare i .......
81: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.49)
Posted by JNS on 2012-06-08, 16:20:01 (50.82.86.236)
The only 300B amp I have heard that wasnt all midrange was one of the Border Patrol amps made in the U.S. Granted I havent heard everything, but these amps must be heard to be believed. Most of the ot .......
82: RE: It's possible that... (4.49)
Posted by airtime on 2022-06-21, 07:25:08 (70.190.95.166)
No, I occasionally rotate in two other amps into this system and only the NAD has this problem. Not only this system, but in other systems I have around the house. There was something out of phase IN .......
83: Re: Any improvement to the midrange? (4.48)
Posted by stillWater on 2003-06-17, 09:45:48 (199.46.199.232)
Everything is improved. The highs used to be a little bright at times, that's gone. The midrange used to be laid back, the best word I would use to describe it is present. The bass was there but not w .......
84: Re: The FWIW dept........ (4.46)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2006-04-29, 16:20:22 (67.176.116.152)
I had the ARC VT50 that I thought had pretty good bass as PP tube amps go but the midrange could have been a little more lush and robust. The little 2 - 3 wpc "45" tube monoblocks I'm presently playin .......
85: Yes, lean and mean... vs harmonically rich and robust (4.46)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2008-07-02, 12:11:42 (75.71.146.105)
The ARC VT50 seemed too neutral and clean and lacking the midrange "richness" I hear in the EL34 based SixPacs. The much larger 120wpc Cary CAD120S that I auditioned was a powerhouse of an amp and wit .......
86: Re: Maybe I can answer some.... (4.46)
Posted by Vik on 2005-12-07, 10:56:54 (69.165.27.86)
National Union 6SN7 are my favorite bucking the trend towards Tungsol Black Plate. I like the Tungsols second best. The National Union do wonderful things to he midrange. I'd like to describe what the .......
87: Possible inverted polarity (4.45)
Posted by Salectric on 2009-05-23, 07:02:25 (98.192.248.227)
Does one of the preamps invert polarity and not the other? Inverting polarity can cause a difference in the midrange perspective. If you don't know if they invert or not, it's easy to experiment. When .......
88: Jadis JOR vs DA 60/DA 88 Signature (4.45)
Posted by Springbok on 2006-02-01, 19:04:16 (64.12.116.131)
I own the JOR and am in love with the midrange - it is magical. Question: Will I lose this midrange magic if I step up tro the DA 60 or DA 88 Signature? Any takers? Why do I want to move up? Audiophil .......
89: Having a Marantz PM8004 (4.45)
Posted by airtime on 2012-10-29, 10:00:06 (68.39.156.163)
First of all the 8004 is the only amp with tri-tone controls. So right there is your basic equalizer right at your finger tips. I to was fooling with getting more bass. to my surprise I ended up with .......
90: Re: conrad-johnson LP70s Amp; Problem resolved! (4.43)
Posted by BottleBoy on 2006-06-15, 17:34:34 (71.235.50.129)
You're welcome! I had an MV-60SE for awhile. Truthfully, I did not like it as much as the Premier 11a or Premier 12 monoblocks (btw, the Premier 11a is the best cj amp I've listened to pre-LP70s, IMHO .......
91: Cleaner , smoother treble with greater detail, tighter bass (4.42)
Posted by edta on 2005-06-05, 05:10:50 (67.140.85.201)
Yes, that characterizes it succinctly and well. Lacking the tube bloom? And midrange dynamic effect? Yes, to a degree. The tube amp I have (RM 10) lends a bit of an aura to the midrange. The Aleph la .......
92: Another alternative (4.42)
Posted by E-Stat on 2009-01-17, 14:27:38 (206.255.204.18)
is to send it back to Plymouth for the MKIII upgrade. Much ink was spilled in the press about the hard quality of the original version. The MKII version (which I originally bought) was an improvement, .......
93: Re: Anbody demo'd the PSAudio HCA2 against upscale amps ? (4.42)
Posted by SFDude on 2003-02-01, 08:43:26 (68.49.87.252)
Compared the PSAudio HCA-2 to the Clayton SA-40 amp (at about 2x the price almost) and it fared well. In terms of bass slam, the HCA-2 has a lot more audible impact than the Clayton. The Clayton's bas .......
94: Re: How about the Bryston’s upper midrange in which its brightness is like glacier ice in an afternoon sun. (4.41)
Posted by Artar1 on 2005-02-20, 16:35:08 (69.225.85.98)
Also, I find the Bryston upper midrange to be precise, crystalline, and pristine with perhaps a touch of glare (hence the metaphor about light reflecting of off glacial ice in afternoon sun) if carefu .......
95: RE: 57s (4.41)
Posted by unclestu on 2010-12-10, 13:01:05 (72.253.179.5)
Original Quads have a 50 watt limit IIRC. Sonically, the CJ power amps would have a more extended top end than the Quicksilver. The frequency response is more extended and the sound a more "modern" on .......
96: Re: Very smart (4.41)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2006-02-05, 01:03:46 (67.176.116.152)
I've tried the subwoofer route and it helps but it's never quite "right". The best bass comes from a fast powerful amp and the main speakers, in my setup anyway. And for this, I need a fast dynamic an .......
97: Re: Sonic Euphoria may have one soon. (4.40)
Posted by sbrians on 2003-10-29, 06:10:37 (66.194.2.29)
Smooth, warmth, it has bass. The midrange sounds good in the way that tubes can. Most of all, it was the only preamp that I heard without glare. All of the other ones that I tried had much more glare .......
98: RE: Arcam A28 thoughts compared NAD, CA, Creek (4.40)
Posted by airtime on 2013-04-08, 07:47:53 (68.39.31.158)
I listen to mostly low level classical music. So I think our listening tastes are similar. The feature I find AMAZING with the new Marantz's is the midrange tone control. Forget about the bass, you cr .......
99: Re: MCINTOSH MC2105, any opinion/comment / review ? (4.39)
Posted by whitese on 2004-07-07, 12:34:43 (66.245.13.135)
So what if it was out of production for 25 years? They have a tremendous basic design, that is hard to beat. Reliability is great as well...If the amps are so outperformed, why would they havea need t .......
100: RE: lower input impedance = less noise (4.38)
Posted by Tom Schuman on 2009-01-16, 01:36:39 (80.171.34.188)
Also, if an preamp/amp mating rolls off the high and low frequencies a bit, that doesn't necessarily affect most listening, since most of the music is in the midrange and the AN / Quad mating is suppo .......
101: RE: Really? (4.36)
Posted by airtime on 2015-05-10, 09:53:00 (69.142.61.247)
NAD uses a simple audio trick to give the illusion of detail. How they do it is quite simple. They brighten up the top end and simply hollow out a "part" of the midrange. With a "hotter" top end this .......
102: Re: VTL MB-185 vs. Rogue M-150's (4.36)
Posted by Schweikert on 2006-05-25, 18:42:27 (207.200.116.196)
Ive owned VTL 300 and Rogue 150. On the 300's the midrange was far back comparred to the rest of the spectrum, Bass was powerful highs not so clean, but power to spare. the MB185 will be close. rogue .......
103: Re: Best Integrated for Midrange - Suggestions please! (4.35)
Posted by George Mann on 2006-11-01, 23:58:27 (65.138.131.189)
For accurate, linear and realistic midrange, an Accuphase E-213 ($3K US). .......
104: RE: Marantz PM 6006/7005 vs Yamaha S 501 (4.35)
Posted by airtime on 2017-01-15, 12:10:52 (68.231.156.10)
The marantz will have a softer top end but more of a bold midrange. The Yamaha will have a cleaner top end but not much in the way of midrange. About the same in the bass department. The marantz does .......
105: Hey OZ RE: Eastern Electric Minimax pre (4.35)
Posted by sown gi on 2008-01-25, 11:59:56 (216.70.11.254)
Seems like we have been down this road before. Is the TVC going to give me a rich, heavily bodied, sound? Plus an excellent lustrious midrange? Most reviews I have read seem to indicate that the TVC s .......
106: The Impossible Tube Pre Amp Dream (4.34)
Posted by Visitor1.864 on 2019-06-14, 11:07:41 (50.244.51.49)
It seems to be the holy grail, at least for me. Getting a lush, super-rich midrange, but with clean, extended bass and highs - that sounds like a far away dream. Multi Kilo buck pieces seem to just gi .......
107: LOL, well, it's a subtle thing (4.32)
Posted by PabloP on 2008-10-27, 13:01:29 (76.173.146.227)
Actually, the Quad preamp doesn't have any obvious sonic signature, but I use the tilt feature to skew the frequency response. The amp, however, has a somewhat vivid midrange and is a little rolled of .......
108: Here's an easy way... (4.32)
Posted by mkuller on 2007-01-24, 14:57:58 (71.141.73.14)
...use one amp for the woofers - speaker cables directly from the amp to the woofer connectors. Use the second amp for the midrange and tweeter - get some bi-wire cables with one connector for the amp .......
109: Biamping musical fidelity M3 (4.31)
Posted by GG on 2005-05-01, 07:14:04 (68.145.135.25)
A friend (honestly) has an m3 and is not happy with the bass which he finds lean. He has bought a cj 60 which has a wonderful midrange but does not control the bass all that well. I wondered about bia .......
110: Re: PassLabs X250 Amp (4.31)
Posted by redkar on 2005-09-16, 13:50:44 (4.232.102.26)
I used to own a x350. I used it to drive Magnepan 3.6 and Spendor 2/3. I thought the sound with the Spendors was lacking in body. When I sold the 3.6 and got a pair of Quad 988 my suspicions were conf .......
111: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.31)
Posted by Mick Wolfe on 2012-06-09, 15:30:19 (70.162.23.241)
I really grew fond of the GL KT88 in the Latino ST70. Went with the KT120 in the ST120 for a few months before deciding to try the GL's. Unfortunately have not tried anything in this amp but the KT120 .......
112: Re: Any comparison of Bel Canto ICEpower-based amps VS Nuforce amps? (4.30)
Posted by Marcoo on 2006-05-15, 15:12:34 (68.21.215.160)
I only heard the NuForce's in an unfamiliar system so I cannot comment on them. I did have a chance to compare the Bel Canto Ref1000's with the Cary CAD 500MB's and I much preferred the Carys. The Bel .......
113: Re: Preamp suggestions... (4.30)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2003-01-14, 18:59:10 (12.253.200.214)
Preamps are tricky... My question to you would be, why buy a rich sounding preamp to compensate for bright speakers? I recently fought a similar battle. Although my Thiel CS 1.5 speakers weren't (too) .......
114: The NuForce review above makes for an interesting comparison (4.30)
Posted by GliderGuider on 2005-11-17, 08:32:58 (198.103.161.1)
All the superlatives heaped on the NuForce are exactly what I was thinking last night as I listened to the Aleph J. The bass on the Aleph may be softer, I have no way of knowing. I do know that compar .......
115: Re: Has anyone tried 6550 , KT88, KT90,KT99 instead of EL34 output tubes on their V12R (4.29)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2006-10-04, 20:57:33 (67.176.88.196)
I never liked KT88's much. I found them to sound a little veiled compared to 6550's which were more open and transparent sounding to me. But unfortunately, the 6550's didn't have enough midrange magic .......
116: Heard the H2O... didn't care for it. (4.28)
Posted by enzo on 2004-08-27, 15:57:22 (64.114.216.253)
Sorry Vince, but in both systems we tried, there was an upper midrange glare at a certain, albeit narrow, band of frequency, and the bass was not up to task: vague, undefined, and not overly extended. .......
117: Re: Digital - Panasonic SA-XR45 - Digital Input (4.28)
Posted by sarlau on 2004-08-24, 12:17:04 (65.165.96.76)
My SA-XR50 took a couple of hundred hours to break in. For the money it is pretty good. See my posting above. With the BPT AC conditioner on it, the Panny really comes into it's own. Easily the best s .......
118: RE: Shindo EL84 vs 6V6 -- differences? (4.27)
Posted by Vik on 2009-11-20, 09:20:17 (66.192.47.2)
I heard the 6v6 based Appetite (sp?) and EL84 Montille. The 6v6 had a more ripe bottom end with rolled off high frequencies and an utterly natural midrange. The Montille was a bit more detailed and pa .......
119: I use hypex (4.26)
Posted by bullethead on 2016-04-15, 17:28:30 (108.14.40.252)
Veiled midrange, yes. Not so on PCM though, I use up sampled processor which goes to PCM 32 384 I think, DSD is the problem. I am listening now to excellent recordings up sampled in real time to DSD 1 .......
120: RE: Schiit Freya+ Impressions - predictable (4.25)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2021-06-23, 10:24:51 (73.229.163.4)
I can only comment on the Cary SLP-05 as I have not heard the NAT. But if sledge hammer dynamics were one of my few criteria I can easily get that with a solid-state linestage. Huge dynamics, wide f .......
121: RE: Original Andras so perhaps I can extrapolate ... (4.25)
Posted by casouza on 2009-06-16, 21:54:29 (189.122.116.24)
I believe it will work very well. Assuming that your speaker's sensitivity is 87 db @ 1 Watt One needs to double the power for every 3 db additional SPL, so: 1 W = 87 db on axis, one meter distance 2 .......
122: Eastern Electric Minimax pre (4.24)
Posted by sown gi on 2008-01-25, 08:07:23 (216.70.11.254)
I was wondering if there is anyone out there that knows of a Solid State Pre that would have a larger soundstage, and a more lustrious midrange than my Minimax? If I had to sacrifice any part of the h .......
123: Re: Live near Denver? (4.24)
Posted by pushpulltriode on 2005-09-20, 17:10:54 (219.78.188.10)
Now I see, Line 2 absolutely could not meet the standard of Herron (either VTSP-1 or 2) in terms of midrange sonic quality. Line 3 SE absolutely trounced the Herron and really depends on which tubes y .......
124: Re: Tube pre-amps for Adcom GFA 555II (4.23)
Posted by saltyflies on 2007-02-14, 08:25:51 (69.141.168.6)
Some preamps try to do nothing while others imparts more personality. I suggest avoiding preamps that are “neutral” or try to do nothing as they will further highlight the Adcoms brightness. Something .......
125: NuForce vs Older Aleph 3 (4.23)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2005-11-23, 21:08:58 (67.176.116.152)
Hi, I can't compare the NuForce to the Aleph 30 or the Aleph J but I did own the Aleph 3 at one time. The Aleph 3 was 30wpc into 8 ohms and doubled to 60wpc into 4 ohms. I don't think the Aleph 30 dou .......
126: RE: Stories from people who have moved from tubes to SS (4.22)
Posted by beppe61 on 2014-11-26, 02:46:15 (85.19.92.6)
Hi and thanks for the kind and valuable reply I have this midrange obsession and tubes are said to be maybe limited in bandwidth but with a really well "developed" midrange I know that not all SS is .......
127: ARC for example.... (4.22)
Posted by mkuller on 2011-04-01, 12:56:43 (71.141.73.14)
...I wouldn't call their sound "bright". My impression of their sound in that era is that they sounded very balanced, musical and dynamic, but tend to draw your attention to the upper midrange. Perha .......
128: RE: Nad c352 as a preamp (4.22)
Posted by airtime on 2013-02-18, 08:48:40 (68.39.31.158)
I used my NAD C326BEE as a preamp for a while as well. I would describe the preamp as very polite in the midrange as compared to other preamps. I eventually decided to use the preamp section of my Mar .......
129: Exactly RIGHT ON! (4.21)
Posted by Sordidman on 2007-01-05, 11:34:07 (209.157.148.112)
One needs a high current amp for the job, - which is EXACTLY what you are describing. You need some kick-ass amperage running through your system. Why? Because the Nautilus N802s have a bit of recesse .......
130: Compared to amps with very expensive ..... (4.21)
Posted by rp1@surfnetusa.com on 2003-12-04, 14:00:53 (66.248.83.185)
voltage regulation (the Uber Mark Levinsons etc) the SST lacks refinement on the top end. But...the SST can, and does, often surpass them in midrange color and flow. I don't know what Stuart Taylor ha .......
131: AMC CVT-2100as for best value (4.21)
Posted by niws on 2003-09-30, 21:21:33 (67.84.178.98)
I haven't heard the more expensive hybrids such as the Van Alstine, Joule Vamp or Lamm. I have owned the Moscode 300 Maxi and the AMC, while not as powerful (80 wpc), has a much better midrange. The A .......
132: Crown K2 - Can it be upgraded? (4.21)
Posted by Mike D on 2012-06-07, 09:22:40 (98.228.60.236)
Will upgrading the caps, resistors, and any other small parts with higher quality pieces yield a sweeter/cleaner midrange and treble on my Crown K2? It has tons of brute force, but I don't think it w .......
133: Definetly a taste thing (4.20)
Posted by cool miles on 2005-05-29, 05:17:36 (65.95.42.133)
I spent a good deal of time considering this amplifier. I think it is better at doing bass than midrange. I think it provides a very upfront sound which is not very musical. I read in Stereophile that .......
134: RE: No, the lower output impedance is independent of the loudspeaker being used. (4.20)
Posted by mjcmt on 2020-02-17, 16:18:34 (24.225.37.138)
Makes some sense to me. My speakers are 6 ohm. Using the 4 ohm amp taps gives tighter bass, clearer highs, and seems to be higher distortion too. Using the 8 ohm taps the speaker is not as clear with .......
135: Re: Get rid of the Atoms. They are over rated. Upgrade to Axioms at the least. This will be a BIG improvement. (4.20)
Posted by SirAnthony on 2004-08-27, 01:15:56 (24.7.168.204)
The Atoms are good for the $90 they cost. But thay are not that good overall. I had two Atoms for the rear channels. I also had the paragdm "atom" center. These have good midrange reproduction. But th .......
136: Re: PS Audio 4H or 4.6, re: phono stage (4.20)
Posted by Jay on 2003-10-22, 12:04:03 (63.190.193.13)
Hi Dave, hope this helps: The 4.6 was my first "audiophile" preamp. As I recall, it had excellent mm/mc phono stage for the money ($699 MSRP in 1989). Thru active line stage, phono produced holograph .......
137: BAT SS amps are a nice match with B&W's (4.18)
Posted by madisonears on 2015-12-05, 22:18:47 (24.183.39.57)
I ran the VK200 with my 802's, and it provided a very relaxed, tubey sound. Also ran an Audio Research 100.2 SS amp, and that was even sweeter. I have heard Classe with B&W, and it was possibly too sm .......
138: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.17)
Posted by CarlEber on 2012-06-08, 11:53:30 (98.68.160.204)
Tell me which one and why. Preferably priced from $1 to $7000 (new or used price), and power output can be anything from very low to high. It can be integrated, or a power amp. When I say "glorious mi .......
139: Re: Yep... (4.16)
Posted by Vic D on 2003-01-05, 00:22:32 (64.164.102.114)
I mistakenly used sterility in the clean (and uncolored) sence, instead of the commonly used lifeless and without emotion sence. The PS Audio HCA-2 has done more to bring life and emotion into my syst .......
140: RE: Sounds reasonable (4.14)
Posted by tubers on 2011-08-24, 03:09:58 (213.33.155.58)
Cary SLI-80 update: Tried Telefunken EL-34 tubes (1972) - the KT66 tubes had subdued and rolled-off highs, and the Teles are better in this area. On the other hand, the Teles are leaner in the midrang .......
141: RE: Replace those 6-year-old KT88s! (4.14)
Posted by Tubegroover on 2015-03-25, 08:08:40 (99.75.60.233)
"at the moment, KT150 tubes come from Putin's Russia. Will they continue to be available?" My concern as well but after hearing the new V4s with the new transformers and Kt150 tubes, WOW!...the midran .......
142: RE: What's the best tube amp for glorious midrange tonality and realism? (4.14)
Posted by Mendel on 2012-06-14, 16:32:11 (99.238.69.11)
Since you already have the Rogue 88, why not send it back to Rogue and have it converted to a Stereo 90? I did that and found the midrange much improved with 6sn7 drivers as opposed to the 12au7's in .......
143: RE: Sell That Cary SLI-80 (4.13)
Posted by akolegov on 2013-12-09, 04:07:09 (213.33.155.58)
Oooooh...I started to hear the midrange I've been longing for when I switched it to Triode mode! Enjoying it for three days now. I've been listening to it in the UL mode for 5 years because it has bet .......
144: It was an era of tradeoffs (4.13)
Posted by E-Stat on 2015-09-16, 17:43:32 (71.83.116.35)
In the late 70s/early 80s you had tube amps like the Audio Research D-79 and the Conrad-Johnson Premier One that were fabulous in the critical midrange. Each, on the other hand, was a bit loose in the .......
145: Re: Krell KAV 2250 (4.12)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2006-01-11, 18:57:46 (67.176.105.27)
The Krell KAV-2250 is rated at 250wpc @ 8 Ohms, 500wpc @ 4 Ohms, and it has a huge 2KVA power supply transformer inside. They sound very dynamic and quick with lots of "snap" and "slam" and good deep .......
146: RE: Leben CS-600 and AG Duo Omegas (4.10)
Posted by arj on 2009-10-21, 06:03:12 (202.75.197.38)
Just to give a perspective, I own the CS600 and i would say the sound depends on the tubes you use to power it - with the stock Sovtek 6L6GC it can be hard/punchy and forwad - SED Winged C 6L6GC, warm .......
147: Rogue 66 magnum vs. 99 magnum? (4.10)
Posted by sbrians on 2004-04-22, 07:19:08 (206.19.64.11)
With my 1.6 Maggies I tried a Rogue 66 magnum before going with Sonic Euphoria PLC. This was largely due to the upper midrange emphasis of the 66. But I am considering a 99 magnum used since I really .......
148: Re: Anyone familair with the Music Reference RM-200 amp? (4.10)
Posted by Matthew G. on 2003-02-11, 14:32:01 (129.44.36.130)
Keep in mind that the RM-200 is a hybrid--the input stage is solid state. The resulting sound is very lean compared to most tube amps, but also very liquid, smooth and fast, with just a smidge of warm .......
149: RE: A bit of nostalgia from 1964 . . . (4.09)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2018-03-16, 10:08:12 (24.145.117.29)
The AR 2ax was an older model; the 5 was its successor. The 5 was essentially a 3a with a 10" woofer. I agree with your comparison. The 2ax was a development of the AR 2, a 2-way with a 3" cone tweete .......
150: RE: Upgrade from Conrad Johnson PV-14 (4.09)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2009-02-13, 21:18:00 (67.177.242.32)
You hit the nail on the head. I've been commenting for years how the CJ PV-14L has a nice midrange but lacked bass depth and impact as well as a rolled off treble. I have yet to hear a entry to midran .......
151: Ei KT-90 tubes with Cary SLI-80 (4.09)
Posted by akolegov on 2013-12-05, 00:25:25 (213.33.155.58)
...I am wondering whether my Cary SLI-80 (which is currently collecting dust) would sound more lively, less boring and clear in the midrange if used with Ei KT-90/Gold Aero KT-99 tubes... The current .......
152: Why do my cheap cables sound better (4.09)
Posted by airtime on 2013-01-18, 06:56:11 (68.39.31.158)
I have some nice cables that I like to "try" using. But I always end up taking them out. With my NAD preamp it makes the sound - increadible bright!!!! And washes out the midrange to almost nothing. .......
153: RE: A bit of nostalgia from 1964 . . . (4.08)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2018-03-11, 18:23:56 (24.145.117.29)
I remember a friend's parents had a Fisher receiver driving a pair of AR 3as. I doubt that it had the output of the Stereo 70. The gentle clipping aspects of those amplifiers made that possible, with .......
154: Re: Krell 400xi (4.08)
Posted by A.J. on 2005-03-31, 09:02:55 (80.58.9.235)
I didn't spend a long time with the 400xi and I couldn't say why, but I didn't like the midrange either. I found it sort of more relaxed than the 300iL's, which is good, but lacking "nerve". Perhaps i .......
155: "Nobody slams bass like Krell" (4.08)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2007-08-03, 13:18:11 (75.70.189.149)
So true. The key is to find a Krell amp that sounds nice in other areas besides the bold impactful bass. I had the KAV-2250 amp which had incredible bass but otherwise it seemed too clean, lean, and s .......
156: RE: Emotiva (4.07)
Posted by navman on 2010-07-16, 17:05:51 (67.61.190.225)
UPA-1 are on as I type this. I would have to say the Macs were awesome. Never any complaints. And it used to go lower after I replaced caps in the power circuit last year. The UPA-1's goes deeper and .......
157: Re: bass response in C-J CAV-50 (4.07)
Posted by Jack Gribble on 2004-04-20, 12:24:07 (68.227.212.210)
In general, EL34 tubes have a wonderful midrange, and while they do have bass, its definitely soft. The Jolida 302B is a 50 wpc integrated tube amp ( with active line stage; the cj is passive with the .......
158: Plinius vs tubes for Harbeth C7 (4.06)
Posted by max_the_lab on 2005-06-14, 12:02:36 (203.126.191.194)
Hi all, I am running a pair of Harbeth C7ESIIs with a Rogue 66 pre and Quicksilver M-60 monoblocks. I love the midrange with my current setup, though I always felt the bass control could be improved. .......
159: Re: Blue Circle?? They look DIY (4.05)
Posted by PhilNYC on 2006-08-31, 08:31:50 (66.43.89.26)
>>But for an integrate, I'd bet my former Bel Canto eVo2i would kick all their butts around the block. Mind you, the Bel is a little cool in the midrange. ;-) I've done a lot of listening to both the .......
160: Your Opinins Pls on Mc and AN (4.05)
Posted by Jagdeep on 2007-05-03, 17:19:56 (203.120.68.73)
Mates I'm using the Promitheus TVC at the moment and it's great. I am also investiating the possible use of either the Audio Note M3 or McIntosh C46 or C2200 The C46 is superb and the equaliser is som .......
161: Re: Cary SLP-2002 (4.04)
Posted by claud on 2003-06-05, 09:59:38 (149.168.130.40)
It lacks the magical midrange? Since when. Cary is known for its tube equipment with nice tube sound. Any one that can afford even $1800 for a used 2002, is not going to balk at spending $225 for a ma .......
162: Re: ARC VT60 vs Classic 60 (4.03)
Posted by dafos on 2007-01-04, 07:43:57 (124.106.126.116)
The classic 60, while a triode design, did not seem to have the liquid midrange that triode amps are noted for. Could it be that the use of the 6550 output tube, a pentode tube wired in triode configu .......
163: RE: Slightly off-topic (4.03)
Posted by Mr_bill2 on 2024-02-17, 17:40:22 (104.28.92.166)
If your assumptions works, and the amp can optimize itself to less powerful tubes then with the addition of your speakers, as efficient as they are, you might be very surprised even an EL34 which is s .......
164: Integrated Amp Recommendations for Epos M12.2 (4.02)
Posted by RPA123 on 2008-03-17, 08:58:32 (72.130.135.132)
Hi to all, I am currently driving a pair of Epos M12.2 with a NAD C315BEE amp. I am pleased with the sound, the midrange is outstanding and the highs are not too "hot". I am bitten by the upgrade bug .......
165: Ah, just the man I've been looking for (4.01)
Posted by krelligan on 2006-06-20, 13:57:52 (24.44.168.253)
David, I have a McIntosh mc252 that I'm currently running from a Placette passive line stage pre. I love this amp but I'm wondering whether the addition of a tube preamp, specifically the McIntosh C22 .......
166: Re:Reissue Tung-Sol 6550's (4.01)
Posted by Joe Appierto on 2005-02-19, 12:09:51 (205.188.116.7)
As you know, the C-J 140 was voiced using SED 6550C's unlike their earlier models which I believe were voiced around GE 6550A's. I find the SED 6550C's to be very good in a number of respects. They're .......
167: Re: Teflon Caps (4.01)
Posted by BottleBoy on 2006-06-15, 18:39:37 (71.235.50.129)
I stand corrected. Thanx! When I listened to the Premier 16ls Series II, I felt that although the bottom end was more extended, as compared to the Series I which was being used in my system at the ti .......
168: RE: Vitus Reference (4.00)
Posted by Dave_K on 2016-07-08, 08:07:31 (73.249.178.108)
My system is listed. I've been trying different speakers and most likely will settle down longer term with Magico S1, Dynaudio C1, or KEF Reference 1. I like the Luxman. It has a natural, effortless s .......
169: RE: EAR Yoshino 868 (4.00)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2019-06-15, 19:33:16 (73.78.200.105)
I think it's somewhat a matter of personal preference. While I found the EAR 834P to be very captivating with its very ripe midrange, I found other phono preamps that were more to my liking with bett .......
170: RE: Modwright 9.0 SE - ARC LS16MKII (3.99)
Posted by LouGiants on 2008-06-23, 18:06:13 (198.51.174.14)
Thanks for the info. I never really thought of the BAT VK-3ix as a candidate, as I do want a pre-amp a bit more detailed, refined and open then my Quicksilver RCLinestage. I do have Spendors S6e for s .......
171: RE: Bryston 4B-ST sound quality (3.98)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2014-08-13, 20:24:21 (50.183.218.111)
Adding to what Mike K said, "The 4BSST is better, and the 4BSST2 is better yet," ........ ....but I found the 7BSST2 monoblocks not to my liking at all. The bass is tight and dynamic but the overall .......
172: Amp recommendation for B&W Nautilus 801 (3.97)
Posted by whsu on 2003-01-19, 02:11:38 (24.30.173.248)
I've been driving my N801 with a Bryston 4BST for over a year now. I'm impressed with the bass control and dynamics of that amp. I've recently purchased a Conrad Johnson Premier 11a 70w tube amp. It o .......
173: Re: YBA Integre or Unison Research SR1 (3.97)
Posted by superhawk on 2003-05-06, 15:16:08 (142.32.208.234)
I've listened to the Planet 2000, Jupiter 2000, and Naim 3.5/5 CD players. All players complimented the Sim Audio Moon i5 very well with a superb midrange and a fast rhythmic quality. In my opinion, I .......
174: I owned an X-350... (3.96)
Posted by mkuller on 2008-07-18, 11:14:27 (207.200.116.66)
...I bought it to use with my Thiel 7.2s, which are a difficult load requiring a lot of power. I've heard a lot of solid state amps but never found one I could live with - this one was the best. It di .......
175: RE: Best "fleshed out" tube preamp (3.96)
Posted by Audiogabby on 2008-07-30, 15:07:37 (71.169.157.13)
Very interesting post. Of those preamps I've listened to the Hovland HP-100 but it was at a show. Basically I like a midrange as close to real life as It could get. Unfortunately as we know, it's very .......
176: Looking for an integrated hybrid with a tubier top end (3.96)
Posted by Doug A on 2009-05-31, 14:38:41 (76.191.194.3)
Hi: I've been a tube amp guy for the past 10 years, but have lately been exploring SS amps. Most of what I hear lacks the tube roundness that I like, so I've started looking at hybrids. However, most .......
177: Careful what you ask for.... (3.95)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2003-09-30, 18:10:08 (12.252.236.227)
If you want to hear what incredible bass the little HCA-2 is capable of producing, try the matching PS Audio PCA-2 preamp. Tube preamps will likely sound a bit sweeter in the midrange but if you want .......
178: a good amp is a good amp... (3.95)
Posted by kuma on 2004-03-28, 21:03:14 (24.12.104.209)
Any *good* amps should be able to play all types of music convincingly whether tubes or solid state. Having said that, typicaly, solid state slams better but tube amps typically have better dynamics w .......
179: Re: 15 year old power tubes in Cary Amp (3.95)
Posted by stereopup on 2005-02-22, 09:54:34 (208.27.19.210)
I replaced the Svetlana 6550Cs in my CJ Premier 11A with KT-90 type IIIs (made by EI) that I bought from Kevin Deal. When used as a stand-alone amp, the CJ with the KT-90s seemed to sound a little mor .......
180: Re: How about the Bryston’s upper midrange in which its brightness is like glacier ice in an afternoon sun. (3.95)
Posted by Artar1 on 2005-02-20, 16:28:14 (69.225.85.98)
If you have ever walked on a glacier in afternoon sun at high altitude, then you will know how much light is reflected off the surface ice. I am assuming of course that the air temperature is below fr .......
181: sa-xr45 mods (3.95)
Posted by rha61 on 2004-03-24, 09:39:17 (81.57.96.19)
hi all listening to the Panny in Party mode for three months , i found the midrange was too thin i decided to mod the front and surround channels on the main board , I by-passed the power amp 1000uf/5 .......
182: Re: Nu-force criticized by Brit mag (3.94)
Posted by Marc Bratton on 2006-02-04, 17:51:10 (71.33.54.5)
I've been following all the comments 'bout digital amps for quite awhile. Abe Collin's comments I take very seriously since he's had more amps of different types thru his system than I'll ever be able .......
183: Re: Has anyone auditioned the CJ CT-5 preamp? (3.94)
Posted by jimpap on 2005-12-11, 06:46:09 (24.2.228.65)
In a word--Clarity! The CT-5 provides greater clarity and improves in the area of harmonic correctness. The CT-5 has a significantly lower 'floor' than does the Premier 16 and has greater extension in .......
184: I've lived with all 3 Plinius integrateds.....some comparisons.. (3.93)
Posted by Audio Pharaoh on 2004-12-19, 11:35:06 (213.158.186.195)
Hi Erik:) 8150, 8200mkII & 9200...While the first 2 models were good but also 'different sounding'...the 9200 takes all the positives and adds more power and more refinements across the spectrum. 8150 .......
185: It's all about trade-offs (3.93)
Posted by Brad V on 2003-09-08, 12:07:05 (167.64.47.32)
>>> It totally mellows the attack of the bass riffs, and cymbals, etc.. IS this something that tube changing can cure,,and if Yes, to what extent? You might get a little improvement with different tub .......
186: Re: Hovand HP200 Low Frequencies (3.93)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2006-04-13, 15:32:49 (67.176.116.152)
I think you just discovered one of the major weaknesses of many vacuum tube preamps. I found bass response to be especially "polite" (almost not there?) in many CJ pieces including a number of their t .......
187: The 9NT has a little different sound than the Nautilus (3.92)
Posted by Sordidman on 2005-03-15, 12:48:59 (209.157.148.129)
but still is considered not bloomy or lush in the midrange.... You want a high current amp that is going to beat the hell out of the speaker to drive the midrange. This has much to do with playing the .......
188: RE: Butler TDB 5150 vs Belles Ref 150A + Hot Rod 150A 3 channel (3.91)
Posted by sleepysurf on 2007-08-18, 19:59:46 (71.98.232.229)
I demo'd a Butler 2250 with my ML Summits, but ultimately ended up going with the Belles 350A Reference. My perception was the Butler, as a tube hybrid, added midrange warmth, at the expense of low ba .......
189: Thanks, I somewhat understand. (3.91)
Posted by mjcmt on 2020-02-17, 16:22:38 (24.225.37.138)
Makes some sense to me but I'm not fully comprehending. One set of speakers are 6 ohm so I tried both 4 and 8 ohm amp taps. Using the 4 ohm amp taps gives tighter bass, clearer highs, and seems to be .......
190: Can anyone help with a copy of a Bedini 150MKII owners manual and schematic? (3.91)
Posted by tubesforever on 2006-04-04, 23:23:59 (68.190.182.251)
I purchased a used Bedini 150MKII. I compared it to my 50 watt per channel Precision Fidelity tube amp. The Bedini has better and deeper bass--no surprise here. But it also had the midrange magic of t .......
191: Re: Tubes vs. Solid State - yet again (3.90)
Posted by Aftermidnight on 2004-05-22, 05:57:35 (66.245.109.158)
I tried to go to SS switching from a CJ CAV-50 to the Unison Research Unico. That lasted all of 4 months! Missed the midrange and soundstage. I've had the AES SixPacs for 5 months and now don't feel t .......
192: Is my age starting to show? (3.89)
Posted by Hyfi on 2009-08-18, 12:29:41 (65.220.61.71)
I have been having a little shootout with a few pcs of gear. Odyssey Stratos vs Counterpoint NPS-400 amps and Clearfield Continentals vs Dynaudio Audience speakers. I have alsways been a big fan of ba .......
193: RE: Ei KT-90 tubes versus 6550's (3.89)
Posted by jbrrp1 on 2013-12-05, 20:27:37 (216.17.86.16)
I initially used Winged C 6550's in my EAR 890 amp, and I thought they were a little romantic an thick in the midrange, but just a little (and this could match well with some systems, for sure). When .......
194: The sound won't change dramatically from now on..... (3.89)
Posted by Paul Tobin on 2004-01-13, 15:45:49 (144.139.35.88)
...Most of the improvement from warmup should be apparent, though you should experience some small gains. I don't expect the 8150 will ever sound like the midrange of your Unico. I replaced valve sepe .......
195: I don't know about that (3.88)
Posted by Jon L on 2004-07-06, 21:05:34 (206.27.225.86)
being a 2-way, Norh probably has x-over point somewhere between 2-3.5kHz, smack in the middle of midrange. Your ears are most sensitive to inconsistencies, phase, etc in this range. Even if you are a .......
196: Marsh (3.88)
Posted by Jon L on 2004-12-23, 15:14:09 (162.119.232.102)
Marsh A200S is about 125wpc into 8 ohms and can be found at prices near old Adcoms 5800, 5802, etc. Over the years, I've used a few Adcom 555 mk II's, Spectron, Perreaux, and even some tube amps for .......
197: Re: panasonic xr25 DIY mods (3.87)
Posted by SoftwireEngineer on 2004-09-20, 14:02:23 (192.138.150.249)
"recessed midrange and lack of 3-D soundstage" Your description is not necessarily inaccurate. I have the XR50 and I felt the same initially. I have not done any mods. But I have an aftermarket power .......
198: Agree and Disagree (3.87)
Posted by GELewis on 2005-05-19, 10:24:53 (24.180.141.94)
While the Creek and Nait clearly have better preamp sections than the NAD, I'm not convinced they have a better amplifier section. The Creek, while clearly more refined from the midrange up, lacks the .......
199: Re: Best Mark Levinson amp for around $4K (3.85)
Posted by hans on 2003-06-13, 01:25:22 (213.201.207.81)
Yes, and the C series brings him right back to the amp he started with, since the only real difference between the FPB200 and the FPB200C is the provision of Cast inputs and the revised cosmetics. In .......
200: Re: I'm not so sure (3.85)
Posted by Hyperion on 2004-01-30, 07:08:15 (202.73.169.138)
You are correct. I had an all silver Bent TX102 TVC for a month and I loved the remote control and it did have better midrange and bass dynamics than my DACTed LW1. It however lost out in terms of hig .......
Found 200 records in Cable Asylum.
1: Re: The Cardas Midrange (6.20)
Posted by SJT on 2000-12-20, 21:44:16 (130.132.192.20)
Timbo, I just want to clarify one part of your post. My *dealer* said Transparent cables possess that same "Cardas midrange", it was not I because I have never heard any of Transparent's cables. I kno .......
2: Re: Looking for best buy used Harmtech Pro 11 Speak Cables (6.20)
Posted by walter on 2001-01-16, 06:19:46 (207.123.132.110)
I use the HT Pro-11 as the midrange cable in a tri-wired system. The midrange is the strength of this cable and would be competitive with anything in the midrange below the megabuck cables. ::: TOPIC .......
3: RE: My guess: you are hearing the effects of RF noise. (6.07)
Posted by gordan on 2007-05-28, 11:30:36 (89.216.145.249)
nuhi wrote: VDH's advantage is in the midrange, it's not a bad cable, it's just that midrange is sticking out. Meaning it can come in handy if your first interconnect has a weak midrange or you want m .......
4: Suggestion of interconnects without midrange glare. (6.07)
Posted by beppe61 on 2005-08-07, 10:45:18 (212.171.168.62)
I am looking for recommendations on interconnects that don't add midrange glare to the sound (expecially annoying with female voices). I have read that solid core copper cables are a good option. I a .......
5: RE: My guess: you are hearing the effects of RF noise. (5.97)
Posted by nuhi on 2007-05-28, 03:38:35 (83.131.159.140)
Until you confirm some difference compared to another cable on that position keep it as it is. I liked it from the preamp to poweramp as well but I actually have some humming then so can't use it ther .......
6: No, just rotated them sideways. (5.94)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2005-03-24, 10:11:22 (66.126.231.55)
The ribbons are in front of the midrange portions as seen from the listening chair. The speakers face away from each other (Ie, with 90 degrees of toe-out if they started with the ribbons inside), so .......
7: RE: Thicker bass and richer mids...solid core or standed ICs? (5.88)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-04-10, 10:27:06 (92.221.73.93)
Hi i have a DIY experience. I found a small and cheap coaxial with the center conductor in Cu solid core without plating and the sound was less harsh especially in the midrange. Actually quite full an .......
8: I agree w/lancelot (5.68)
Posted by BS64 on 2008-06-09, 04:50:41 (72.84.246.49)
While garden-hose type IC's are dark or veiled on some systems, they can bring out a midrange magic on the right system. I was in search of a more open, airy presentation and found it with the Hero's .......
9: RE: I Agree (5.61)
Posted by Duster on 2020-07-31, 02:08:02 (73.19.55.31)
Cool. Make sure to listen to the integration of the midrange and woofer if you try the 0.5mm (20 AWG) cable for the midrange. If you seek more body, with a richer tonality, and perhaps better fleshed- .......
10: Cardas HEXLINK GOLDEN 5-C XLR after dac (5.57)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-04-08, 00:09:19 (85.19.92.6)
Hi ! i have had a previous experience with Cardas 300B rca ics ... and loved their midrange. Now i have some dacs with balanced outs to test. One of the biggest problem for me with digital is the hard .......
11: First off, are the jumpers to tweeters ONLY, or to midrange and tweeters? matters... (5.49)
Posted by Smelly_Socks on 2016-03-23, 14:00:05 (107.77.87.118)
If the jumpers are to tweeters only, then a super quality single strand/solid core small gauge wire would be best, with no end connectors either. If the jump is to both midrange and tweeter combo, the .......
12: Looking for warm interconnect (5.44)
Posted by Tourist on 2002-03-22, 19:41:21 (61.6.47.39)
I have a AV setup and as with typical AV, the treble is a bit excessive and with good bass. But the midrange leave much to be desired. So I am looking for some interconnect to give me more midrange/wa .......
13: Are solid core ICs the cables of choice for the best midrange reproduction ? (5.32)
Posted by beppe61 on 2006-12-04, 03:11:53 (194.185.74.117)
Dear Sirs, I would like to get opinions about the statement that the best midrange reproduction is a quality of solid core ICs. To be more precise, I have presently two ICs: Cardas 300B (cd-pre) and .......
14: On Avantgarde Duos (5.31)
Posted by Norm on 2004-10-16, 07:28:25 (4.26.168.105)
I ran to the high end and jumpered to the midrange. I found this to sound somewhat better than to the midrange and jumpering to the high end. Try it both ways and see which you prefer. .......
15: Cable upgrade ideas? (5.30)
Posted by arab on 1999-08-18, 18:19:59 (195.92.194.21)
At the moment I have DNM Reson solid core speaker cable. When I first got it a year ago I thought it was brilliant-really clear treble and midrange- but now I find most of the detail is in the treble .......
16: Kimber's 4VS and 8VS have a smoother, but similar sound... (5.30)
Posted by DeKay on 2005-07-10, 10:09:16 (207.200.116.6)
to that of the TC series. The TC was a bit too hot in the upper midrange with a few of my setups (not really bright in the upper HF's, as I've occasionally heard it described). I was using a midrange .......
17: RE: Does this make sense to you ? (5.29)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-04-20, 04:13:48 (85.19.92.6)
Hi and thanks again. I was clearly trivializing a very complex issue. As i said i am trying to catch some principles, but it is difficult. Of course i love Cardas cables. I have already a 300B and i .......
18: The 20s are whole lot better speakers than the 10s... (5.27)
Posted by kuma on 2006-08-21, 23:24:01 (24.12.109.168)
to futz with the cabinet tampering. Also, they use the SL midrange drivers which 10s don't. ( which reflects in the midrange clarity ) BTW, I have the older passive 10s and love them. ( without any tw .......
19: Re: Wouldn't you consider bright thin cables to be colored???? (5.18)
Posted by Duster on 2005-05-11, 10:43:37 (24.17.158.236)
While the term is also used for all aspects of a cable's presentation, the term "colored" is often used to describe the most critical aspect of audio playback: the midrange. Human hearing is "tuned" ( .......
20: IC's that Preserve Golden Cross Midrange (5.14)
Posted by Moto_Man on 2002-12-05, 10:24:43 (68.8.26.134)
There's a reason we are called "inmates" in this "asylum." I think I am going nuts. I was using Red Dawn IC's between my Plinius pre and Plinius power, and Tributaries silver with my Theta CDP. Matche .......
21: Re: 47 Labs OTA Cable Kit (5.13)
Posted by Don T on 2003-04-22, 22:14:06 (68.99.211.200)
Yea I need some more connectors - are you recommending something else? These 2 piece plastic ones seem like a good idea. Midrange fallout? Right now these things have an extremely rich and full midran .......
22: Thanks Chris. But what about the MIDRANGE? (5.12)
Posted by Jon L on 2000-04-01, 13:21:44 (192.234.77.6)
I must confess that my leanings are toward lush, rich side of neutral. (or is true neutral lush?) I've always preferred solid core designs over stranded for their rich midrange and use solid core spea .......
23: Re: AZ cables, I find them to present LOTS of midband info, it's (5.11)
Posted by JGT on 2002-03-19, 21:14:37 (172.134.215.143)
Very intersting posts, I have heard similar characteristics to the Matrix Copper. I have found their biggest failing is too much midrange oooph in the lower midrange...viola range. This brings to ove .......
24: Re: JPS Labs Ultraconductor Cables (5.04)
Posted by gpalmer on 2001-11-28, 02:54:25 (64.81.253.34)
I have a pair of them I got with a set of used speakers. I used them for a while and found that they were pretty decent. They had good detail. They did seem to have a bit of a bump in the upper midran .......
25: Re: Tara Labs RSC Air 1 opinions? (4.90)
Posted by JerryS on 2006-06-28, 07:54:08 (24.8.44.72)
I heard an unnaturally forward and crisp midrange that said "Listen to me!" The harmonic content of the midrange was not consistent with the upper bass and lower treble. It became tiring fairly quickl .......
26: Goertz for full range speakers? (4.85)
Posted by late on 2006-06-12, 07:35:42 (72.224.136.219)
Hi, I got a piece of Goertz MI2 Veracity. I like the good things it does. But the midrange is a little recessed and the bass is wimpy. If you consider I have PSB Golds, that is saying something. I .......
27: Re: seeking opinions Kimber Select vs. XLO Signature (4.84)
Posted by LowPhreak on 2002-01-06, 17:17:48 (208.20.95.129)
I like the XLO Sig. line alot, although I have yet to give any of the Select's a spin, other than the KS-3035. The Sig's seem to have a great focus to them, are "quiet", and I like their non-forward m .......
28: Re: Speaker jumper wires (4.84)
Posted by Other options ... on 2000-05-28, 21:40:56 (12.73.171.149)
Hi Kurt, Gordon Rankin made up a wiring harness for me out like he uses on his Unos out of Nirvana wire. there is a spade connection to the midrange horn with the wire running directly to the woofer ( .......
29: Re: Any problems with Bi-wiring with two different makes of speaker cable? (4.80)
Posted by skady on 2002-04-13, 05:07:26 (212.12.228.177)
Kevin, I'm sure no harm will be done by this, but may have a sonic mess due to the different cables' sonic traits, especially in that one of them will be feeding both midbass/midrange and part of the .......
30: Will different speaker cables cause a difference in volume? (4.78)
Posted by daninthemix on 2003-07-12, 01:37:29 (80.46.161.63)
Dear all, Does anyone have an answer to the following scenario: In bi-amping my speakers, I will use Kimber 8TC to the bass (which actually handles everything below 400Hz), and solid-core 14AWG silver .......
31: I give up! No more endless waiting for 7m Parsec to 'break in' i swear.... (4.78)
Posted by Elizabeth on 2014-02-09, 13:42:09 (65.28.166.198)
So i finally have 'had it'. I stuck some belden 89529 coax (5 meters with Vampire Tiffany RCA) I happened to have in place of the Parsec i have been patiently waiting for break in on. The Belden in RC .......
32: LOL (4.78)
Posted by Jon L on 2002-04-27, 20:50:27 (162.119.232.100)
Yes it'll work, but it would only work well if your system has "hard midrange" and peaky treble. In other words, if your system is neutral, the monster PC will roll off the treble and smooth over deta .......
33: Re: Looking for Bass....... (4.77)
Posted by APro on 1999-09-06, 16:58:36 (202.163.128.84)
What you might be hearing is the cables effect on your speaker ie. if your speaker is a 2way & a cable produces more or deeper bass - wouldn't you expect it to have a corresponding effect on the midra .......
34: Midrange was richer and the treble was cleaner. (4.77)
Posted by jeffreybehr on 2005-05-08, 11:45:59 (68.230.67.50)
I'm no Golden-Eared Audiofile, but I sure heard these differences, and my GEA-friend loved them even more. I think the midrange richness has something to do with the retention of more quite-subtle spa .......
35: RE: Question for VH Audio users (4.77)
Posted by Duster on 2016-07-28, 07:53:53 (73.239.106.81)
The Flavor 4 is known for its midrange clarity and authoritative bottom end, so I agree that it's a worthy option to consider. To my ear, the Flavor 4 is more dynamic and offers a more palpable midran .......
36: any love for Chord ICs? (4.74)
Posted by gkirkos on 2016-10-04, 11:42:52 (216.190.112.141)
I'm considering some of the midrange Chord ICs (Cadenza Ref). I've heard the low end ones (Chord Cobra). Bass was solid but the mids were pretty grey. Looking for synergy with a Rega Saturn CD play .......
37: Re: Kimber 8TC vs AudioQuest CV8 (4.73)
Posted by P.O.M. on 2007-01-08, 09:06:50 (83.108.22.55)
Hello, I have the N804 and have been using the CV-8 (double lengths in bi-wire configuration). Now I am using Kimber 8TC and 8VS (8TC or tweeter/midrange and 8VS for bass). In my system, the CV-8 was .......
38: Why 3 runs to midrange drivers? (4.73)
Posted by StylinLP on 2007-04-05, 10:43:09 (162.135.0.6)
I see that you twisted 3 sets of these cables to your midrange. Why 3 and not 2 sets? Seems like an odd random number. If I wanted to build a bigger cable than the 16awg that comes stock I would think .......
39: Re: Comparison between Cardas Golden Cross and Magnan Vi (4.73)
Posted by JH on 2001-01-03, 22:39:36 (212.151.16.101)
Cardas Golden Cross have a very good midrange and treble, but have some colourations in the upper bass. Overall a very good cable. Magnan Vi sounds more wide banded. Deeper cleaner bass and equally go .......
40: Joy of having a spare gizmo i thought i would never use..... CardasGolden Reference.. Just right. (4.72)
Posted by Elizabeth on 2014-03-05, 12:27:22 (65.28.166.198)
So i am tuning the bits I have settled on. And damn I need some midrange warmth. Since i GOT perfect treble. Now i am chasing the midrange. And silvery is not golden. All I needed was a tiny bit of ye .......
41: Re: Is it the silver thing or is it just Kimber silver? (4.69)
Posted by audionutge@yahoo.com on 2005-06-09, 04:49:18 (84.162.66.111)
Also try replacing the power cord on the Krell to something like a Synergistic Research AC Master Coupler. Do not look at anything above that model because your looking to bring midrange bloom back in .......
42: Re: AQ Ruby's all around? (4.69)
Posted by Mart on 1999-12-31, 19:36:40 (160.150.99.123)
With that equipment & if you enjoy AQ, you really ought to look into Emerald or Lapis? The air-delectric does WONDERS!!! BTW, you don't need the X3 versions unless you're using balanced ICs. You reall .......
43: Re: 2-wire version of Volex 17604 PC? (4.66)
Posted by niws on 2004-04-25, 13:13:43 (67.84.178.98)
I have a power amp with an iec type connector but it has no ground. I have tried a volex cord with it and it seemed to work ok. I got the same sonic effects that others have described with the volex-d .......
44: RE: Does this make sense to you ? (4.65)
Posted by DeeCee on 2015-04-20, 12:37:43 (71.47.10.40)
bg, I haven't heard a large variety of cables, but Cardas has bested a number of brands that I have heard in regard to midrange (IMO). The only issue I have heard with Cardas is a slight possible exag .......
45: Re: Looking for Reasonable $ IC for Bass/Low Midrange (4.65)
Posted by GaryM on 2000-04-09, 07:50:13 (204.171.31.152)
I will continue to support the DH Labs BL-1 that I use throughout my entire system. Overall better sonic presentation than the PBJ which the BL-1 replaced. More bass definition and more clear delineat .......
46: Re: Suggestion of interconnects without midrange glare. (4.64)
Posted by G man on 2005-08-08, 09:47:39 (63.164.202.131)
Don't know if this is what you are looking for, but the Straight Wire Rhapsodys' have a nice, warm midrange with no added glare or harshness. Detail (resolution), and extension at both ends is pretty .......
47: Come on Duster...you can't possibly be serious!?! (4.61)
Posted by kenster on 2005-11-13, 19:06:13 (71.36.54.22)
Midrange warmth and transparancy from an AC outlet???? You must be frickin' nuts!! Just funnin' with ya. I am currently trying an Oyaide P-037 on my Platinum Power AC line balancer and the results are .......
48: RE: Kimber 8tc- Where did all the treble go? (4.61)
Posted by DigitalAudio on 2011-12-04, 14:00:29 (24.180.145.56)
I have had the 8TC in my system for just a few days now. I have been running them pretty much 24x7 to get them broken in. My estimation is that they have about 25 hours of play time on them now. Prio .......
49: RE: Tastes are tastes ,,, but then why so many fakes ? (4.59)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-04-12, 22:50:45 (85.19.92.6)
Hi and thanks for the reply. Now i understand that the fakes market is not limited to Cardas. As i said i had mainly positive experience with Cardas. I am about to try a cheap XLR one Hexlink somethi .......
50: I have the HD-14 (4.59)
Posted by laznos on 2004-08-10, 08:09:25 (24.12.32.178)
My system had a bit of thinness in the bass and lower midrange. I put in this cable and, after a very long break-in, the bass tightened up. It has a "thick" soundstage, the sound is palpable. The only .......
51: Hot upper midrange (4.57)
Posted by Luminator on 2019-09-22, 10:50:48 (162.205.183.92)
It really could be that the ARC LS3 is simply telling it like it is. When we had the AudioQuest Ruby in the first half of the 1990s, it exhibited glare in the upper midrange. Definitely find someone w .......
52: RE: 10 or 12 gauge stock (knuconcept) cable (4.55)
Posted by Duster on 2013-11-08, 13:28:48 (76.104.217.128)
I find the strongest attraction of a planar loudspeaker to be a big open sounding midrange. If you are concerned about a muddied midrange presentation, I would suggest looking into a multiple small ga .......
53: Good question but--(sorry-a bit long) (4.55)
Posted by kavakidd on 2004-05-18, 08:17:14 (149.174.164.81)
I guess those designers are way more technically savvy than I - AND, I expect it is speaker dependent. Here's what Richard Vandersteen has to say on the subject: "All cables in a bi-wire setup must be .......
54: RE: Re: set up (4.53)
Posted by Dynamite Ham on 2009-08-10, 13:36:08 (64.130.242.146)
Wow, thanks for the well informed advice. I will definitely make the test. But I'm confused why the manufacturer would wire the midrange for reverse polarity. Wouldn't that cause a huge midrange sucko .......
55: Re: Looking for warm interconnect (4.51)
Posted by Chris on 2002-03-23, 14:17:31 (24.163.88.201)
Monster 950i or Reference 2 (they are the same, Reference 2 is 20% cheaper) or Z200i (same as 950i except the 4 midrange and the bass wires are a little thicker) or M1000i (same as 950i except it has .......
56: Re: Your Favorite Copper Speaker Cable??? (4.49)
Posted by Walter on 2000-05-05, 07:27:24 (159.142.131.79)
Agree with the HT supporters. I use the HT pro-11 as a midrange cable (60-3000hz). For this spectrum it is perfect. HT speaker cables have excelllent bass and midrange. Whether you use tubes(I do) or .......
57: Re: Harmonic Technology Interconnects not delivering (4.48)
Posted by audioNeil on 2002-09-27, 20:50:08 (192.190.75.6)
I defy any engineer to explain how an interconnect with low impedence, connected to a low output-impedence source can possibly have a bass problem. I think it is electrically impossible. If you simply .......
58: Danke Schoen, Herr Samra! (4.46)
Posted by Winston Smith on 2016-08-22, 17:29:14 (122.62.233.148)
Checked it out. That Python cable looks quite nice. Very cool. I am currently running a pair of Goertz MI2, and was thinking of maybe going with a tri-wire (MI2s on the lower midrange driver and the m .......
59: The IsoClean looks to be an FIM Model 888 with... (4.46)
Posted by Duster on 2005-11-12, 15:34:51 (24.17.146.229)
...a custom faceplate. The FIM Model 888 is said to have a rather warm midrange. The Isoclean is said to have that type of presentation, too. This is not a bad thing, just different than what an Oyaid .......
60: Chinese Nordost Valhalla speaker cables sounding glorious.. (4.45)
Posted by ABliss on 2022-11-10, 16:56:28 (99.177.204.36)
I must have about 300 hours on them now, lost count, but they are just sweet sounding now. Very smooth with no glare or brightness whatsoever. No tizzyness in the treble or brightness in the midrange .......
61: speaker cable gauge (4.44)
Posted by Chris R on 2011-06-08, 07:08:54 (65.220.13.121)
Based on what I gathered from several websites, the lower the speaker nominal impedance, the thicker the cable needs to be. And when you look at the typical impedance curve of a full range speaker, im .......
62: RE: After months of posting and trying different inerconnets (4.42)
Posted by earnie3 on 2014-04-13, 19:57:45 (70.188.148.177)
The parsec is a beautiful Cable I used to own quadlink interconnect before I just thought it was a little bloated and rolled off on top. Parsec replaced quadlink I feel they don't sound nothing alike. .......
63: Strange... (4.41)
Posted by Jon L on 2002-11-21, 17:00:30 (24.126.44.228)
I have the Quatro Fil and XLO signature IC's in my home, and IMS QF absolutely smokes the XLO signature. Compared to QF, XLO, while being more "airy" lacks the solidity and definition in treble and mi .......
64: RE: Tastes are tastes ,,, but then why so many fakes ? (4.39)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-04-13, 14:00:27 (92.221.73.93)
Hi and thanks for the information Actually i have no competence to give an opinion on their build quality But i was impressed by them when used with digital. A pair of Neutral Ref transformed the sou .......
65: Comparing Risch cable (4.38)
Posted by Jon L on 2001-05-23, 20:11:11 (162.119.232.100)
I made the Risch 89259(hot)/82248(same guts as 89248) IC, twisted, no shield. This is a good cable. I could and will use it when the need arises, but I have others that are better currently. Compared .......
66: have you listened to Magnan cables ? (4.38)
Posted by tonemaniac on 2003-10-23, 08:17:33 (216.223.210.74)
have lived with both older edition of Cardas best (at that point in time) and Magnan Vi, both of the musical vs. the analytic school of thought. The Cardas was a bit euphonic and forgiving but loads o .......
67: RE: Help me pick XLR from Pre to Amp (4.36)
Posted by Duster on 2017-04-29, 20:13:40 (76.28.209.43)
You have a decent budget, so I'm sure you can find something that provides good synergy when placed within your particular system. I'm in agreement about the getting the midrange right, since the vast .......
68: Recommendations for Interconnects/Speaker Cables (4.35)
Posted by DayLee1 on 2005-11-11, 08:06:49 (69.205.126.97)
I recently tried new speaker cables and interconnects in my system in order to open up the lower midrange. My system consists of a Cary CD306 SACD player, Cary SLI-80 tube amp with Herbeys tube damper .......
69: RE: Wireworld Equinox 6 Interconnect Report (4.35)
Posted by davem1 on 2012-08-23, 14:11:50 (68.98.171.251)
Duster - Thank you for taking the time to tell us what you heard. The TechRadar review dovetails with what you reported. Some quotes from the TechRadar review are: (Near the beginning) "... Treble not .......
70: Re: Oyaide AC connectors and LAT AC-2MkII (4.35)
Posted by Eric Echler on 2006-07-14, 20:14:33 (141.149.80.110)
Wow, Oyaide should put you on their payroll, you really love them! :) Do you think the fact that the XLO Ref. 2 type 10A is lacking in the midrange might have affected the outcome of your listening te .......
71: Re: CABLE SUGGESTIONS FOR SOLILOQUY 6.2'S (4.34)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2002-09-17, 21:41:13 (12.253.68.93)
I listened to Soliloquy speakers in a dealer showroom and thought they were slightly on the dark side with a midrange emphasis. For this reason, I would be tempted to use cables with some silver conte .......
72: RCA (4.33)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-05-26, 19:43:57 (66.81.185.197)
greyglass were one of my favorites onso my Korneff 45SET, but didn't seem to fit as well in my VAC in my system. Same with National Union, which was great on SET but not so hot on the VAC. So far, Ken .......
73: Mr. Crump and Thorsten, need advice about Ubyte-2, Sonoran. (4.33)
Posted by Jon L on 2000-06-05, 11:16:11 (192.234.77.6)
I am torn. I just made the modified Ubyte-2 using Solo inductor, using tefon tape. I've done some good amount of listening now, and while these cables are darn excellent, I miss some aspects of my Son .......
74: Re: Cooking CHeLA (4.33)
Posted by HumanMedia on 2006-05-11, 17:29:26 (202.139.145.86)
I just made my first set of chela jumpers for the midrange inputs on my Spendor SP100's. (I have my chela main cables, but I am using VH's 12awg power wiring at the moment). I am still waiting on the .......
75: Re: detailed but full bodied speaker cable (4.32)
Posted by TomNY on 2002-11-06, 20:24:44 (141.155.130.213)
Hi, I am a happy owner of/cheerleader for the Harmonic Tech cables ... I have the Pro 9 and find them very detailed and very warm (but not bloated) at the same time. If you consider a biwiring configu .......
76: Re: Oyaide AC connectors not the answer? (4.32)
Posted by Eric Echler on 2006-07-14, 11:16:38 (141.149.80.110)
Sean, thanks for your thoughtful response to what could have been taken as a thoughtless remark ("band-aid approach") on my part. It seems as if you have considered each change carefully in regards to .......
77: Hubbel HBL8215C vs. Hubbell 8115V (4.30)
Posted by Duster on 2003-03-30, 09:52:32 (24.79.110.70)
New findings: IMHO, Hubbell 8115V with all brass blades is much warmer and musical than Hubbel HBL8215C, with rich fullbodied midrange and a more natural overall tonal balance when used with a SPC/Tef .......
78: Bi-wire vs. shotgun (4.30)
Posted by Steve on 2001-04-15, 15:50:28 (192.6.76.72)
Here are two pictures of the same cable, one set up for bi-wiring (4 cables +ve & -ve tweeter, +ve & -ve midrange/bass) and the other set up for Shotgun connection (tweeter & midrange/bass leads commo .......
79: Tweeter working fine... (4.29)
Posted by Kent on 2001-04-09, 06:43:24 (172.128.154.67)
Hi Jon, I have check the tweeters with RS SPL meter, they are working fine. All the connections are checked out ok too. I just untwisted the tweeter wires, the sound is now wider and with more high fr .......
80: I will also see if what they say at AUDIOADVISOR is indeed true. (4.29)
Posted by beppe61 on 2005-10-06, 07:35:11 (194.185.74.116)
Dear Mr. Duster, I must confess you that I am also anxious to verify if what AUDIOADVISOR site reports is indeed true, i.e.: " Audiophiles just love the sound of 300B cables, especially with digital c .......
81: Small AWG VS. Large AWG (4.29)
Posted by DD on 2003-03-31, 21:47:32 (64.169.88.8)
Okay, after listening, comparing, listening, comparing, and listening more to my DIY speaker cables (4 x 20 AWG) vs. old crappy Monster (2 x 16 AWG), I seem to have come to the following generilizatio .......
82: Re: van den Hul - CS122 (4.28)
Posted by Carlos on 2001-01-18, 05:21:56 (200.192.200.28)
I tried the CS122 in my system. Initially, I fell in love with it, because it reduced the all-too-commmon digital midrange glare. On the long run, I could not live with it. In my system, after a coupl .......
83: Jon Risch twisted pair designs (4.27)
Posted by Audio&Me on 2002-03-25, 04:09:28 (24.198.61.71)
What are the sonic differences in double stranded vs double solid vs stranded+solid? I'm mostly concerned about tone. I don't care for boost in the bass or highs, love a warm tone and smooth soft high .......
84: RE: Kimber Kable Hero vs. Audioquest Panther (4.26)
Posted by avsBuddy on 2010-04-07, 22:28:19 (76.187.170.32)
Although it was King Cobra vs Kimber Hero I also concur with above post that there is very prominent difference between them. In my system Hero had a thicker midrange and deep base. However Audio Ques .......
85: RE: Upgrading my speaker cables (4.23)
Posted by Jive Turkey on 2013-01-19, 17:32:43 (50.131.3.92)
I was intrigued a bit by the simplicity of the Anticables, but I couldn't get them to come to life in my system. Detail was good, but the midrange came off cold. I tried them with and without their sp .......
86: Kimber and Cable sounds (4.22)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-02-04, 11:00:53 (162.119.232.100)
Actually, I do prefer the small-AWG sound over heavy-AWG copper sound overall. Kimber 4VS is heavy-AWG copper in their "varistrand" design, whatever that means. Likely stranded coppper in varying AWG .......
87: The Cardas Midrange (4.22)
Posted by Timbo on 2000-12-20, 17:09:36 (209.182.169.192)
A post below stated that Transparent cables also possess the "Cardas midrange". As a resource to AA's readers, I think it would be helpful to start a thread on the "Cardas" sound. Some questions to ge .......
88: Re: Kimber 4TC (bi-wired) vs. Belden 89259 (4.19)
Posted by Carlos on 2001-03-01, 16:45:56 (200.192.204.154)
I have compared Kimber 8TC to Belden 89259, the Belden cable beat it by a wide margin. The Kimber sounded mixed up and confused in the midrange. Belden sounded more transparent, though it may be too t .......
89: Hydrid mixing of Analysis Plus cables ??? (4.17)
Posted by fuba on 2005-04-09, 03:15:58 (202.156.2.50)
I'm now home-trialing the Oval 9 Biwire. Although I am very pleased with the bass end (one of the much better cables I've heard so far for bass), the tweeter/midrange is not as clear and detailed as I .......
90: not LFs, not HFs, but MFs (4.17)
Posted by Mart on 1999-10-24, 14:16:14 (155.218.169.254)
where do they want to reside? LFs' permeating magnetic flux collapses their current density to the core. HF's prefer extremities & migrate to the skin + outside corners. how do these 2 diametric pheno .......
91: Re: Looking for best buy used Harmtech Pro 11 Speak Cables (4.14)
Posted by waltf on 2001-01-12, 18:11:13 (63.76.243.84)
I biwire my speakers: Harmtech 11 on top, Harmtech 9 on the bottom. Replaced some veryrold ARC speaker cable. I was most impressed with the 11. (I did it first). Sound just brightened up and became "b .......
92: Silver, Aluminum, Copper, oh my! (4.13)
Posted by webgeek on 2001-12-14, 08:21:11 (64.173.78.254)
After receiving my new speakers three or so weeks ago, I have come to the conclusion that I need some new cables. I started out with a Modern Audio Designs silver plated copper cable which sounded gre .......
93: Re: What is better than Harmonic Tech speaker cables (4.13)
Posted by vman71 on 2007-02-06, 04:45:17 (129.33.119.12)
I have a pair of NBS Master III's that I can confidently say are better than Harmonic Tech cables. I have them for sale now as I am now using a bi-wired speaker and went to a bi-wired speaker cable. I .......
94: Xangsane vs "Odin 2" interconnect comparison (4.12)
Posted by Jon L on 2023-03-07, 18:45:09 (76.87.201.57)
Gustard X26Pro DAC-> Schiit Jotunheim R amp driving Raal SR1a ribbon headphones. I can quickly switch between "Odin 2" XLR cable and Xangsane RCA cable, with gain matching by ear. This chain is Ext .......
95: Re: McIntosh owners, what power cords are you using? (4.10)
Posted by Merasdad on 2006-03-04, 22:34:06 (67.188.71.211)
Synergistic Research A/C Master Coupler on a MC-162. The improvement over the Zu Birth and PS Audio Power Punch cords I was using, was dramatic. Much wider and deeper soundstage, clearer, cleaner high .......
96: Re: Shunyata Lyra speaker cables; anyone familiar with these? (4.10)
Posted by klein@wfu.edu on 2003-05-22, 05:41:48 (24.31.101.234)
I just had the chance to audition the Lyra in my system (Linn, Cary, Audio Research and Vandersteen). They have a stunning naturalness in the midrange coupled with extraordinary delicacy and air in th .......
97: QF vs. HMS (4.10)
Posted by Jon L on 2002-05-08, 12:18:15 (162.119.232.100)
That's interesting what you say about Quattro Fil and HMS. I love my Quattro Fil, especially its detailing and speed. IMS it does not sound lean, in fact midrange is glorious and rich (all tubes). Ev .......
98: To Hyperion: What's your comment on Harmonix HS101SP speaker cables? (4.09)
Posted by Clement on 2001-04-09, 14:49:47 (203.198.23.28)
Hi Hyperion, Some times ago I read your post here that you've tried the captioned speaker cables. What's its sonic character? I'm using B&W N805 and looking for suitable speaker cables. I have the fol .......
99: If you don't believe me, how about J Gordon Holt? (4.08)
Posted by Steve on 2001-01-31, 13:11:05 (192.6.76.72)
It just occurred to me. Why don't you check out the FAQ section of this website 'Sounds Like' - An audio glossary Row A sound - Sound which is up-front, forward Row M sound - Sound which is moderately .......
100: Re: Power Cables (4.07)
Posted by Jon L on 2000-04-11, 13:27:56 (192.215.104.203)
Ordinarily, I would say start with source first if you're going to buy one power cord. The Sony DVD player likely can use some help with audio CD's. For under $1000 range, Tekline PC12W for $400 new c .......
101: Re: Transparent (4.07)
Posted by audioengr on 2001-10-12, 10:09:34 (134.134.248.26)
I generally don't comment on other manufacturers cables, but I have owned these and have some positive things to say. The lower grades, super, Ultra etc.. have good midrange and very good bass respons .......
102: RE: Cardas Clear vs Transparent (4.06)
Posted by Mr Peabody on 2014-10-12, 20:51:12 (96.24.203.112)
You should try the Clarus Crimson. Honestly if you have separate pre & power I'd recommend audition with two sets, one from source to pre & pre to power. It was my experience the Clarus seems to sound .......
103: MIT-330 inconsistencies (4.05)
Posted by Jim E on 2000-06-26, 06:42:40 (207.172.11.148)
Back in May I posted the following: I have been using a 25' pair of MIT MT-330 interconnects and found that one sucked out the midrange and the other didn't. I reattached both connectors on the offend .......
104: Etouffee is good, but have you tried jambalaya? (4.05)
Posted by Cousin_Dupree on 2002-04-12, 07:54:42 (12.34.246.38)
Bob, As always appears the case you're way ahead of the curve. I wasn't planning to divulge this tweak 'till I'd established a credible reputation (I realize I'm begging the question on this last poin .......
105: I swapped out the cables and... (4.05)
Posted by SJT on 2000-12-20, 14:38:46 (130.132.192.20)
Thanks for all the great comments. I've been meaning to get a rug for my "listening room", so last night I hit Home Depot and bought a 6'x9' area rug and a 3/8" pad for under it. Installing the rug re .......
106: Re: Audio Consulting interconnect vs Siltech G5 (4.04)
Posted by lizzardman on 2002-05-06, 03:00:57 (68.5.37.74)
Yes I have spent some time listening to this wire for the past few days. at first I thought it was close to the Siltech, but once I really put it through the paces with all types of music I found it t .......
107: I Agree: Here's an example (4.03)
Posted by Maprik on 2001-03-21, 20:34:33 (63.199.31.77)
I bought a second pair of DH Labs Silver Sonic T-14 so I could shotgun to my Coincident Speaker Tech Triumph Signatures. I heard that it would improve bass extension and control. When I did some A/B c .......
108: Are there cables (ICs and SCs) well known for giving "body" to sound? (4.03)
Posted by beppe61 on 2005-10-05, 00:09:23 (194.185.74.116)
Dear Sirs, my current problem is that the sound from the digital front-end lacks body (expecially with voices). It is clear but thin and lean expecially in the midrange. Are there any cables (interco .......
109: Re: You might want .... (4.01)
Posted by JB on 2006-11-27, 10:57:02 (71.214.221.242)
Actually , with your equipment , I would think you would hear more of a difference . My example is taken from years ago when I was using some modified hafler amps and preamps , the noise in comparison .......
110: Need a copper interconnect cable that has a warm full bass.... (4.01)
Posted by reb on 2002-05-23, 08:53:07 (209.246.99.16)
warm full midrange and sweet highs with ambience. Kimber Kable Hero has a nice warm full sound but the highs are unrefined and ambient cues not the best. So I'm looking for a better kimber Hero. I hav .......
111: LOL (4.01)
Posted by Jon L on 2004-04-30, 14:08:38 (162.119.232.102)
I'm laughing b/c I've done the exact same thing a few times. Instead of adhesive copper foil, I've used unrolled copper inductor and made accordian-like shield around interconnects and power cords. I .......
112: Need some advice on Nordost Red Dawn vs Blue Heaven (4.00)
Posted by vikvilkhu on 2002-05-22, 16:49:14 (65.81.155.8)
I have the good fortune of having access to these cables at really great prices. I can get a 4m of BH for 185 and 5m for 215. Similair prices for the Red Dawn. Probelm is there is no way for me to aud .......
113: Re: shotgunned Kimber 4TC, an update (4.00)
Posted by Martin T. on 2000-12-19, 13:38:12 (216.67.108.21)
Others have tried this set-up and were quite happy with the results. Many speaker manufacturers, however, advise that the same cable used for the woofer section also be used for the midrange/tweeter s .......
114: RE: PAD Vensutus Speaker cables? (3.99)
Posted by norfish on 2008-06-20, 13:22:53 (160.91.156.41)
I tried the Audience cables on my Verity Parsifals and hated them. They sounded quite realistic on great sounding material but much less than satisfactory on less great sounding material (most of my m .......
115: Re: (3.97)
Posted by free.ranger on 2004-10-29, 16:01:47 (68.35.73.210)
That's pretty much what I've noticed. The midrange is the strong suit for Analysis Plus designs, but not at the expense of other frequencies. The question asked, do cables make a difference? My answer .......
116: Cardas Clear vs Transparent (3.96)
Posted by Mikey8811 on 2014-10-04, 09:04:18 (175.141.105.224)
Hi I have been a user of Cardas interconnects all my life ranging from the Quadlink 5C, Golden Cross, Golden Presence to Golden Reference. I am currently looking for a XLR interconnect between Krell F .......
117: Re: Doubled up Cable runs - plusses and minuses? (3.96)
Posted by TomNY on 2002-12-26, 17:53:37 (212.184.131.118)
Hi Jackyo, the technical questions of this I happily leave to the engineers round here - I can really only tell this from my experience and the limited knowledge I have acquired by following this grou .......
118: I've done the 9 pair and 18 pair too (3.94)
Posted by Brad V on 2001-07-10, 16:18:52 (167.64.48.106)
I originally made a bi-wired set, utilizing 9 pair for the ribbons and 18 pair to the bass/midrange on Newform R645s. After I got my Odyssey Stratos Mono Amps, I made a shorter 4-5 foot pair of 9 pair .......
119: Gauge effect... (3.93)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2006-04-14, 10:25:28 (71.131.249.1)
There are lots of different aftermarket power cord designs, and the details of their interactions with your equipment are beyond any ability to determine ahead of time. However, there is one basic eff .......
120: RE: Just ordered a one meter Parsec. thanks.. (3.92)
Posted by earnie3 on 2013-12-19, 16:07:25 (70.188.148.177)
Elizabeth your gonna love them but be patient. When I put them in they sounded Great then about 30 hrs in the when a little flat then I ran the CD player on repeat for 2 days and then it was pure magi .......
121: need "warm-sounding" cables...HELP (3.91)
Posted by JTMusic on 2002-12-13, 08:51:05 (64.221.192.74)
Hi folks. I just got some PSB Century speakers... pretty damn good sounding & great detail, etc., but, the upper-midrange and highs are a might too strong. Additionally, the upper-bass/lower midrange .......
122: Keep in mind that wire design is currently an (3.90)
Posted by rcrump on 2001-03-30, 10:25:51 (24.167.44.128)
art form with several avenues to pursue.....Ribbons sound just wonderful in the dead midrange, highs to die for and nice lows, but fall apart in the lower mids/upper bass regardless where used as ICs, .......
123: Suprising results (3.89)
Posted by BobM on 2003-01-07, 06:14:12 (167.230.38.7)
I've been experimenting with silver cables and I think I can disagree with the statements that soundstaging is predominantly queued by high frequencies. Certainly they are important, but so is everyth .......
124: I tried silver (3.88)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-04-22, 08:46:10 (162.119.232.100)
I used small AWG solid silver(32AWG) in teflon and wrapped them around hollow teflon tube a la XLO style. I used 5 wires per leg. I also have XLO signature IC's on hand, so I tried to copy it. Both s .......
125: What cables sound and perform like Blue Heavans that has bass? (3.88)
Posted by StylinLP on 2007-10-21, 07:54:58 (72.208.0.216)
My buddy and I did an interconnect shootout during last weeks RMAF between the following interconnects. Nordost Blue Heaven - Fast, articulate, pinpoint imaging, wide and deep sound stage, highly reso .......
126: Interconnect with detail of D.H.Labs BL-1 but more warmth? (3.85)
Posted by Neville J. Parakh on 2000-05-15, 15:43:26 (192.94.123.20)
I currently use D.H.Labs BL-1 interconnects between my sources (CD player and tuner) and pre-amp. I am looking for an interconnect that will provide more warmth and body to the midrange than the BL-1 .......
127: Re: Looking for Digital Cable for Enkianthus X / Accustic Arts Drive 1 Combo (3.84)
Posted by acres verde on 2005-05-13, 11:35:34 (209.136.24.246)
My digital combo is half the same as your's [AA Drive 1/ Dodson 217 Mk.2d]. I can't say that my Vaidig sextet has a wealth of midrange bloom but it is the best I've ever heard in terms of a balanced p .......
128: Re: The wire isn't passive.. (3.83)
Posted by Jon Risch on 2004-03-31, 20:09:23 (68.212.173.201)
[ For example, when they say that midrange opened up, or sound stage shifted, I couldn't find any electronic effect that would cause it. ] Indeed. You sure it is not voodoo? I'm sticking pins in the .......
129: Suggestions for light RCA sockets (3.83)
Posted by ana;log_sa on 2003-03-22, 11:43:03 (196.25.253.13)
I recently bought a few CMC (Charming Music Conductor) jacks which seem to be popular with both DIY and commercial audio (high end chinese cd player uses those) in Asia. Some are gold plated and other .......
130: I Prefer Kimber (3.81)
Posted by Luminator on 2001-03-06, 16:35:54 (209.21.65.2)
I've heard all of those cables, and I prefer the Kimber for their resolution and focus. I think you'll be very happy with a 4TC top-and-bottom combo. Only use 8TC if you need to warm up the sound, inc .......
131: The effect of Cardas IC on digital sources. (3.80)
Posted by beppe61 on 2013-09-29, 00:16:23 (81.167.153.96)
Hi ! found this on the Audio Advisor site about the 300B Microtwin Interconnect " Audiophiles just love the sound of 300B cables, especially with digital components. 300B delivers a rich midrange, ult .......
132: Re: Nordost Solar Wind (3.80)
Posted by David A. Ryerson on 1999-09-29, 21:11:42 (209.178.160.143)
Steve, I too would love to see an answer to this question. Since I need 25 feet of cable, there is no way I would be able to borrow a set of each type and try it out on my own system. However, I can o .......
133: Re: what sound can I expect from Harmonic Tech Pro-Silway mk II (3.79)
Posted by Monte on 2002-04-02, 10:41:22 (141.152.65.30)
See if you can borrow a Cardas Neutral Reference. It's a little darker than the Golden Reference and doesn't have the midrange emphasis. Overall, I think it's the more neutral of the two. In my system .......
134: Limitations on method. (3.78)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2006-08-03, 16:14:40 (71.131.193.38)
It is easy to conclude that something does not matter if one sets out to ignore it. In fact, most if not all audio wire is directional. It is easy to hear the difference. Simply make an unshielded twi .......
135: Re: It's All Guesswork (3.77)
Posted by Mike Rubin on 2004-01-09, 09:40:19 (17.213.20.193)
Lummy, my goals are not different than yours, although, with pop and rock, I sometimes sense that "transparency" usually means "bloodlessness." (I think we both are after "soul," and that is the first .......
136: Re: WBT Silver NextGen and Eichmann Silver bullet (3.77)
Posted by Bombaywalla on 2005-07-10, 17:28:09 (63.166.216.16)
>>One minor quirk is on vocal pieces where the singer is increasing in volume as the notes change, the image seems to spread out >>slightly from a localized area to cover more of the soundstage. Bloom .......
137: Re: Nordost Valhalla (3.77)
Posted by Roysen on 2000-12-04, 14:33:16 (193.128.102.3)
Here is what Harry Pearson wrote about the Valhalla cables in the lates TAS: "Let me put this as plainly as possible. The Valhalla system from Nordost is the least colored and most neutral cabling eve .......
138: AudioMagic construction (3.77)
Posted by Mart on 1999-11-18, 21:49:48 (155.218.169.254)
I spoke to someone @ AudioMagic today about obtaining better IC results than even the Excaliber II's. I figured that this was the closest affordable IC to what I want. The odd part is that they appare .......
139: Re: WBT Topline vs. Midline RCA Opinions? (3.76)
Posted by audiophile36 on 2005-03-08, 19:38:44 (152.163.100.7)
Hey Duster, The Top Lines have a blacker background and purer treble response that seem's more detailed and extended while the midrange is a tad bit more focused,the bass on the Top Lines is more real .......
140: Re: Continue with VH Pulsar? YES (3.76)
Posted by Carlos on 2005-09-15, 09:38:46 (201.8.143.28)
Hello IME Xhadow connectors will improve dramatically the midrange, air and soundstaging as compared to a copper Bullet plug. Your Belden cable and VH's Pulsar have a smidge of "byte" in the upper mid .......
141: Re: "The intention was to create a cord with a fairly flat frequency response " (3.76)
Posted by Alan on 2001-04-24, 00:04:53 (209.240.220.238)
You don't measure. The audible difference (resonate difference) could be insulator coloration, geometry, ac connectors, etc. Now I normally find large gauge power cords to enhance or boost upper bass .......
142: Re: Attack of the 50 Foot Cables (3.75)
Posted by Don S Johnson on 2000-07-20, 11:06:39 (198.232.63.66)
Thanks, Jon. Richard Vandersteen advises *against* mixing different cables for biwiring. See http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/Answr7.htm He says: "All the cables in a bi-wire set must be the same. [Us .......
143: No more locking connectors for me! (3.74)
Posted by reb on 2002-06-22, 14:59:51 (63.210.216.23)
They ring like a bell in the lower midrange. Out they go. .......
144: Silver cables tend to better support RF noise. (3.74)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2008-02-19, 10:20:53 (71.141.228.56)
Your list of sonic attributes suggests that your system suffers from a low level of RF noise. Silver or silver-plated copper wires typically conduct such noise more effectively than copper wires. Cabl .......
145: Re: Need a copper interconnect cable that has a warm full bass.... (3.74)
Posted by TomNY on 2002-05-23, 09:26:32 (141.155.131.165)
Hi, I was on the same quest recently and also came across the HT Truthlink ... although I would say that "wooly" is a bit of a strong word for them ;)) I finally settled for the HT Magic Link One Inte .......
146: Re: Further impressions of 2 connectors (3.72)
Posted by Duster on 2005-06-03, 10:27:40 (24.17.158.236)
Thanks, badman. Here's some personal observations to toss in (hope you don't mind). In my system, the Xhadow rca has a very unified presentation from top to bottom, with the midrange in "near perfect" .......
147: RE: that's just old Naim amps (3.72)
Posted by Duster on 2016-05-11, 16:15:58 (73.239.106.81)
You might consider Oyaide Across 2000 stranded OCC copper parallel speaker cable, terminated with high-performance speaker cable connectors. I chose it for the presentation of a second system that .......
148: RE: Kimber 8tc beater? (3.71)
Posted by mjcmt on 2008-08-28, 11:04:21 (152.42.170.55)
I have been a fan of, and have used, Kimber TC cables for many years. I have used the 4 & 8 TC extensively and have made power cords and interconnects from them, have wired my DIY speakers with them, .......
149: Silver glare (3.71)
Posted by akolegov@mtu-net.ru on 2008-12-25, 05:46:31 (213.33.155.58)
Merry Christmas! I cannot say I tried lots of silver cables, but even those that I tried had some degree of glare that was annoying. The only exception I heard was top Neotech silver speaker cables. I .......
150: Re: SIngle biwire, double biwire and shotgun. (3.71)
Posted by David Spear on 2002-06-01, 02:07:18 (43.244.24.181)
Okay, I'll give it a shot. "Single biwire" (I assume this is the same as "internal biwire") = Four conductors in the same outer cable jacket, four terminations (two red, two black) at each end (or two .......
151: Re: Thanks. Please post your results as you continue to explore. It's ... (3.71)
Posted by niws on 2003-11-26, 07:04:10 (209.11.99.66)
The cables I preferred over the Belden were the Harmonic Technology Precision Link and MIT 330. I paid $80 for the Harmonic Tech (used) and $30 for the MIT (new, on a closeout). The Harmonic Technolog .......
152: BTW (3.71)
Posted by NEAR SOTA on 2003-04-22, 19:45:14 (172.156.99.169)
The midrange fallout happens then goes away after 200+ Hrs. of use. .......
153: Re: What Are Your Best DIY IC's And Experiences Leading To Them? (3.70)
Posted by BobM on 2003-02-26, 11:01:41 (167.230.38.7)
I started out with the plain 89259 coax, then made Jon's 89259/89248 twisted pair (unshielded). I needed a bit more air and "tingle" at the top end so I began experimenting with silver in many differe .......
154: Re: CHIMERA INTERCONNECTS (3.69)
Posted by JP on 2006-06-16, 09:51:50 (199.64.0.252)
If you're talking about the quad braid using continuous cast copper wire, the basic recipe is really good. I didn't buy Chimera's, but made my own based on their instructions. I used the Vampire wire, .......
155: Re: JPS in-wall cable (3.68)
Posted by blake on 2004-08-03, 11:16:57 (64.136.26.235)
Perhaps it is the Furutech IEC. Personally, I prefer things on the warmer side of neutral (I sold two Cardas Golden power cords which the JPS cords replaced), but I would describe the JPS/Marinco comb .......
156: Coincident Speaker Technology Cable (3.68)
Posted by J Harris on 2001-03-02, 00:05:11 (151.202.198.240)
Could those who have used this cable please comment on it? I'm very interested in trying it in my system, because I think it will solve a lot of my problems. Unfortunately, I have no local dealer, and .......
157: Re: Fi X/Abby Cable Recommendations (3.68)
Posted by tcain on 2004-06-25, 10:11:54 (66.97.92.40)
Quite a few C&C customers are liking the AU24, some after many other types. I have not heard it in my system yet. Hearing it in other systems it;s uite good. I hear that runs of solid copper and silve .......
158: RE: Kimber Monocle XL or Select KS-3033 (3.67)
Posted by jlingo on 2009-03-21, 06:47:23 (61.8.253.132)
Hey Keef, Thanks for the feedback. So far I like the speed, transparency and the snappiness sounding of 8TC. The bass is also pretty tight and solid. I would say TC is more digital sounding. Every sou .......
159: Need help with my new Kimber 8tc/4tc biwire setup (3.67)
Posted by Dynamite Ham on 2009-08-10, 09:49:49 (64.130.242.146)
Just upgraded from Kimber 8tc biwire (single 8tc split between high and low per channel) to Kimber 8tc on the bottom and 4tc on top. Speakers are Triangle Celius and amp is a tubed VAC. The old setup .......
160: REVIEW: Nordost Quattro Fil Cable (3.66)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-06-09, 14:25:30 (162.119.232.100)
Model: Quattro Fil Category: Cable Suggested Retail Price: $1400 Description: Silver-clad copper in air dielectric Manufacturer URL: Nordost Manufacturer URL: Nordost Review by Jo .......
161: I tried Nordost (3.64)
Posted by Jon L on 2000-02-28, 10:21:41 (192.234.77.6)
Good idea, isn't it? Using speaker cables to make power cords seems like a reasonable idea, so I have tried it. It's tough to find good speaker cables sold not terminated and cheap. I tried making min .......
162: Yep I agree... (3.64)
Posted by cdc on 2004-03-01, 11:15:49 (67.116.6.153)
a large draw appliance like a fridge for a week or so. With my gear, everytime I try a PC you can hear the basic interaction of the PC with the piece of gear, lets say a amp right away. Even if I burn .......
163: Re: cables to help tame brightness? (3.64)
Posted by ekmaia on 2000-10-13, 02:42:20 (156.26.117.53)
HT Truthlinks should do it. Nice bass and liquid midrange too! .......
164: I tried Britney Spears on repeat ... (3.63)
Posted by Monolith on 2002-05-20, 11:09:24 (209.181.207.105)
but the cable insulation kept coming off and the upper midrange was rather bloated... .......
165: RE: connecting components directly to romex dedicated power lines (3.63)
Posted by tpaxadpom on 2013-01-19, 22:37:15 (174.25.59.137)
Ok today I decided to give it a shot. Removed Marinco iec plug from DIY cable and installed it on 10 gauge Romex from the wall. I only tried on my dac. The sound was relaxed, transparent with no fatig .......
166: Re: Analysis Plus speaker wire (3.62)
Posted by Sean H on 2001-01-12, 20:55:02 (208.154.158.240)
I've been using a pair for about 6-7 months now and find them to be superb. My impression of the cable, in comparison to other cables within it's price range, is it's one of a more refined sounding ca .......
167: Opinions and help on pre phono power cord (3.62)
Posted by sommaxx@alice.it on 2010-06-12, 14:49:21 (87.5.111.94)
Hi, actually I have 2 power cords for my Sonic Frontiers SFP1 pre phono: Cardas Quadlink 5c and Zu Cable Birth, with enormous (litterally)differences. The Birth is very dry,with mechanic, "digitalized .......
168: Come to think of it... (3.61)
Posted by Duster on 2014-06-13, 13:05:45 (76.104.217.128)
In my experience, when a brand new out-of-the-box Oyaide R1 AC outlet was installed at the wall, which had not been placed on a cable cooker prior to installation, nor had seen any burn-in time at all .......
169: RE: Does this make sense to you ? (3.61)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-04-24, 03:58:50 (85.19.92.6)
Hi i think that is a case of difficult communication. I have a great admiration for the actual products and consequently for their designer/manufacturer. They deliver IMHE a very musical and nice soun .......
170: RE: Sonic Attributes Please (3.61)
Posted by HumanMedia on 2010-04-19, 17:07:57 (58.172.242.199)
Was posting from an iPhone so couldnt say much. The Pangea AC-9 has great, even and slightly pronounced bass, a sweet upper midrange and good treble. Its only tonal deficiency is lower midrange which .......
171: Re: Braiding vs. Twisting, I prefer twisting (3.61)
Posted by Carlos on 2000-09-07, 19:40:47 (200.192.198.235)
I will add my 2 cents: I made several IC experiments with some spare OFC copper wire, here are the results: Twisted IC: very good sound, no problems with RFI or noise pickup; Separated IC (aprox. 1/2 .......
172: Any Advice for Black Mamba / MPS Hercules Build? (3.60)
Posted by atkinsonrr on 2020-07-24, 05:15:47 (86.227.253.126)
Thanks Duster -- Jantzen cable ordered! Any thoughts on the other Viborg AC connectors I sent you links to. In particular the new style Viborg look quite nice and they seem to have the same internals .......
173: R-C network with 5.6 MHz corner frequency (3.60)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2004-07-14, 08:16:42 (66.123.168.143)
The photos show a Dale 26.7 ohm resistor and a 0.001 mFd, 630 volt film capacitor in series. This network looks like an open-circuit at audio frequencies, but becomes a resistor above about 5.6 MHz. A .......
174: Thank you, Chris. (3.59)
Posted by BLymb on 2001-01-08, 04:40:39 (211.216.216.42)
I am braiding the midrange run now and no longer remember where I've put my rocks. :-P Thanks for your encouragement. .......
175: Just wanted to let you know that the thin wire (3.59)
Posted by Penguin on 2002-03-14, 08:48:30 (205.128.215.120)
does not cause any noticable lightness in the midrange... These are great cables by any standard.... dee ;-D .......
176: Re: Easy (3.59)
Posted by brain echo on 2003-01-08, 11:34:04 (65.59.99.228)
I am attempting to upgrade a Monster HTS5100. In the past, I have had great success in powercord (Chris VH's Flavor 2) and duplex upgrades to other Monster units (HTS2600 & HTS5000). However with the .......
177: Re: Mr. Crump and Thorsten, need advice about Ubyte-2, Sonoran. (3.59)
Posted by Thorsten on 2000-06-05, 11:34:46 (195.99.125.202)
Hi there, >My Sonoran signature speaker cables (heavily shielded heavy gauage >solid core design) gives me just more sound volume and texture in >midrange (especially low midrange). Yes. Or basically, .......
178: Don't waste your time, go with Jorma Design Prime. (3.58)
Posted by audiophile121 on 2006-04-30, 19:57:56 (69.203.108.190)
There's a brief writeup on www.Positive-Feedback.org, and a direct comparison between Indra Stealth and Jorma Prime interconnects on AudioFederation.com's BLOG. AudioFederation's Mike, feels the Jorma .......
179: Re: Reasonable priced cable to speed up a tube based system? (3.56)
Posted by Duster on 2005-02-11, 12:48:14 (24.17.158.236)
Seeking a cable with a less forward midrange might be counter-productive. I have found that, what may seem to be an excess or deficiency is often due to a featuring rather than in actual fact. In this .......
180: Re: I also endorse the Jon Risch designs for low cost (3.56)
Posted by machani on 2006-04-07, 10:10:59 (64.132.187.232)
"The twisted pair ic's and CC89259 speaker cables get the midrange right (their strength in my opinion), are tonally correct, and do not loose ground at the extremes. As criticism some say they sound .......
181: not too lean, not bright, but just right - suggestions? (3.55)
Posted by BS64 on 2007-11-09, 07:37:19 (72.84.240.49)
Looking for a pair of xlr ic's to go between my Cary 303/300 cdp (preamp) and Mcintosh MC7200 amp. This combo is driving a pair of Aerial Model 8's via homebrew CAT5 cables. Currently using Tara Labs .......
182: RE: Suggestions On Good Sounding Economical Interconnects (3.55)
Posted by bjp222@hotmail.com on 2020-01-19, 20:30:34 (67.82.97.238)
I have never really heard of Duelund, but I will look it up and order a few feet haha. What do I have to lose? The 3173 opened up the highs, lows, and mids. The upper midrange and low treble seemed to .......
183: You're not going to like this (3.52)
Posted by Jon L on 2003-03-11, 09:32:44 (162.119.232.100)
but after you make one or many of various silver ribbon designs, I'll bet you won't be quite happy. Oh, they will sound "nice," much better than stock cords, but over a long listening period, you will .......
184: Is pre to amp interconnect important? (3.52)
Posted by vrao81 on 2005-06-08, 09:28:03 (71.111.220.196)
I was using a generic RCA patch cord to connect my preamp and power amp. The preamp I just got in yesterday and it made a big difference over what I was using previously. However after about 1 hour o .......
185: Speaker jumper wires (3.52)
Posted by Kurt Strain on 2000-05-27, 22:03:29 (209.204.136.202)
My Avantgarde Duos have speaker wire jumpers from midrange to tweeter and then from tweeter to subwoofer (200 ohm input impedance active sub). I tried changing the jumper from mid to tweeter with a Be .......
186: Re: Harmonic Tech vs. Acoustic Zen (3.52)
Posted by Boris on 2001-01-15, 14:23:44 (129.82.34.45)
All Marigo cables (AC cords and interconnects) have the same signature - magical midrange. .......
187: Re: oval one (3.52)
Posted by tpdaprile@msn.com on 2005-08-22, 17:57:56 (65.142.146.68)
how does one GET sparkling clarity,intimate midrange and detailed bass from their cables thanks PAT .......
188: Re: good ICs to drive active speakers (ATC) (3.52)
Posted by moray james on 2006-08-21, 23:03:23 (205.206.252.188)
The midrange looks similar to that used in the SCM10 which I have. You might want to experiment first with Perlite damping in the cabinet. If the mid is vented beneath the spider and at the pole you m .......
189: Re: Review: CST 1 Speaker Cable(Coincident Speaker Technology) (3.52)
Posted by Bill K on 1999-11-16, 05:29:54 (209.47.92.156)
I sold my alpha-core silver biwire to guy in California some six months ago. It did not compare favourably to the other cable I had at the time (Van Den Hul revelation--shotgunned configuration). The .......
190: Re: Cable performance % to system sonic (3.52)
Posted by David Spear on 1999-12-23, 17:12:28 (210.172.72.41)
I agree that cables can markedly affect a system's sound, but I don't know whether the changes can be meaningfully expressed as a single number, such as a "30% improvement". For example, when I upgrad .......
191: Boards are Complete (3.51)
Posted by atkinsonrr on 2020-08-12, 13:23:51 (86.227.253.126)
Just finished boards tonight. The vendor was short the 0.5mm solid copper Jantzen wire so I wired the midrange inside the speaker cabinets with 1mm. Elsewhere (crossover and crossover to speaker) u .......
192: Wattgate 330/350i Power Plugs (3.51)
Posted by HiOnFi on 2008-06-29, 07:58:54 (98.211.231.0)
Major sonic improvement in the works. My system uses 7 power cords. 3 are Eichmann eXpress Series 2, 3 are Morrow Audio MAP 2s, one is a prototype from Tekline Cables it has Wattgate 3301/350 plugs. .......
193: Re: Maybe 4TC instead of 8, or Oval 12 instead of 9?? cost versus performance?? (3.51)
Posted by Hafdef on 2002-09-12, 16:18:21 (142.177.112.88)
I don't have first hand experience of how these cables compare to their siblings so I shouldn't comment but will anyway. The oval 12's probably screw things up less than the 9's. I've read that 8tc al .......
194: Re: JPS Labs Superconductor FX vs VDH First Ultimate. (3.51)
Posted by Oxia on 2003-10-22, 07:32:38 (205.150.88.12)
If you're interested in the vdH First Ultimate, but have concerns about hum, then you should consider vdH's The Second. I had the First Ultimate, which I loved for it's midrange articulation, but it w .......
195: RE: MIT MusicHose MH-750 shotgun speaker cable question (3.51)
Posted by sayntjack on 2015-05-18, 21:49:19 (65.38.35.56)
I have been running MIT MH-750 Shotgun cables (no boxes) with my Thiel 2.2s since the mid 90s. Up until I purchased them I was sampling cables on a regular basis for several years. After hearing these .......
196: Re: Cable Shootout: Goertz Micro Purl vs. Triode Quartz vs. Harmonic Tech Truthlinks (3.50)
Posted by Mart on 2000-02-20, 03:21:16 (139.161.100.221)
my trials with Goertz made my Maggies sound faster. But, the MicroPurl's copper leaned out the bass & there was an upper midrange boost that showed up on all systems that may be good for cheap 2-way s .......
197: Re: Your Favorite Copper Speaker Cable??? (3.50)
Posted by Chris on 2000-04-28, 19:43:00 (63.10.76.30)
Axon 8. Incredible clarity, deep and control bass, marvelous midrange... at least on my stereo. .......
198: Thank you very much Mr Morricab ... (3.49)
Posted by beppe61 on 2006-12-14, 00:43:29 (194.185.74.117)
for your kind and valuable advice about the Goertz flat ribbon interconnects. How is their midrange ? Anyway I will look for them. Thanks and regards, beppe .......
199: Re: DH Labs Ultimate RCA (HC) (3.49)
Posted by Carlos on 2004-09-04, 15:42:46 (200.220.2.250)
I have tried them with my favorite copper/teflon cryo wire. In my system, they sounded extremely detailed and open in the treble range. I bet they would make an excelent connector for a digital IC. So .......
200: Similar Results (3.49)
Posted by BobM on 2003-02-12, 09:36:10 (167.230.38.7)
I borrowed a friend's silver IC's recently. He used 30ga teflon coated silver in a simple twist with inexpensive RCA's. My initial impression (after burning them in on a cable burner for 3 days) was - .......
Found 2 records in Car Court.
1: Car stereo question (5.23)
Posted by jim94025 on 2008-10-21, 13:40:37 (162.119.64.100)
How much does the actual car acoustic space make a difference in how good/clean a system sounds? I plan on getting a Nissan Altima Coupe, which had a rather crappy , woolly/boomy/muddy bass and midran .......
2: Not going to happen in a truck cab, but... (5.23)
Posted by Cory M. on 2006-06-04, 18:36:53 (208.107.79.49)
I can recommend Soundstream amps as being very clear and robust sounding. A/D/S also makes some good ones. I have an old 2 channel that I've moved to sub duty in my Bronco, and it controls those woof .......
Found 200 records in Computer Audio Asylum.
1: RE: Anybody tried the New Songbird? (7.51)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-12-04, 17:54:50 (72.199.184.95)
I'm listening to it now on my iMac. It sounds a bit less warm in the midrange than iTunes and does not appear to put out quite as wide a soundstage. The midrange does sound very good with the little I .......
2: Speakers with 100 - 5k midrange? (7.51)
Posted by The Sound Guy on 2009-10-10, 03:17:56 (117.193.234.76)
Could you (or anybody else) recommend affordable speakers that follow your suggestion: 100-5k in the midrange? .......
3: RE: SSSE3 vs SSE4 new impressions (7.37)
Posted by theob on 2009-04-22, 08:59:16 (68.40.119.25)
I really love SSE4 it is lush in the midrange but upon further listening to SSSE3 it is more precise. While commenting yesterday that it was drier than SSE4 I may have mis-stated the reality, its very .......
4: 100 - 5k midrange. I wish! (7.27)
Posted by Jon L on 2009-10-10, 11:37:57 (71.104.144.112)
If you mean one driver that will cover 100-5K well, you are basically looking at those "full-range drivers" from Lowther, Fostex and using them as extended-range drivers and adding in a tweeter and wo .......
5: Re: Why no "reasonably" priced USB Dacs? (7.18)
Posted by Gmood1 on 2007-03-29, 16:48:50 (74.166.41.51)
Cool...understood Mike. The Paradisea really doesn't give you tube warmth. It is more about solidity and weight in the midrange. other than the density of the midrange this DAC sounds more solid state .......
6: RE: Windows 8.1 Initial Sonic Impressions (7.13)
Posted by Jaundiced Ear on 2013-10-20, 00:25:19 (71.146.1.200)
You said: "your comments are..." just as valid as they would be if I specified my system. You said: "8.1 sounds faster to me in the low end and highs." I don't even know what that means. With 8.1, do .......
7: please clarify (7.12)
Posted by hermanesque on 2009-10-09, 11:25:45 (68.179.141.197)
Speakers that xover in the region from 100-500Hz have the sound you are talking about. Good speaker companies who xover and put the midrange in the range from 100-5K will not have the sonic signature .......
8: RE: Midrange DAC with 24/96 input by USB (6.99)
Posted by Mike W on 2009-01-05, 10:31:22 (69.106.250.66)
Thanks for the link, interesting website overall. It seems there is no midrange DAC between EMU 0404 USB and Benchmark DAC1 that support 24/96 input by USB. .......
9: RE: PC or notebook for playback from sound card? (6.60)
Posted by SashaV on 2007-08-14, 12:53:26 (66.203.207.23)
Alan, I do not think he has big network of dealers, I know of only one dealer in US, but cannot remember the name (their web site had this greenish Irish type of layout), give Victor a call and ask hi .......
10: Combined result (incl. Win32PrioritySeparation @ 0x28) is very important giving excellent performance (6.60)
Posted by cics on 2008-09-08, 12:36:42 (198.54.202.226)
You should get near perfect tonal decays with midrange purity that's rich with harmonics giving analogue sound with sweetness and emotion. Tubes? Instrument separation is mind boggling - complex passa .......
11: Has anyone compared the different Monsoon speaker sets? (6.36)
Posted by riker1384 on 2010-05-24, 22:00:51 (173.66.41.80)
I don't know if this is the right forum, but here it is. I recently scored some Monsoon MM700's on Craigslist for $30. I have mixed feelings. The treble is really sweet, but they lack body in the lowe .......
12: RE: Amarra question (6.14)
Posted by Mercman on 2009-09-02, 12:27:56 (99.174.246.225)
The differences are so great on my system, that DBT is a waste of time. Much of what I'm hearing involves the soundstage presentation. My Wilson Sasha W/P speakers do a great job in putting out a wide .......
13: RE: Testing Pure Music... (6.11)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2010-03-12, 19:02:51 (66.157.101.219)
"The sound of PM is more open and revealing in the midrange, much bigger soundstage, better defined bass than iTunes. iTunes is a bit heavy in the mid bass." "Big" soundstage is such a subjective, und .......
14: RE: Testing Pure Music... (6.08)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2010-03-12, 19:46:58 (66.157.101.219)
"The sound of PM is more open and revealing in the midrange, much bigger soundstage, better defined bass than iTunes. iTunes is a bit heavy in the mid bass." "Big" soundstage is such a subjective, und .......
15: RE: cPlay 2.0b7 Released and blows a hole in the 'sonic excellence' ceiling (6.08)
Posted by theob on 2008-11-01, 17:34:32 (68.43.175.248)
Yep did it again! At once more detail, less bright, more midrange and body. It just sounds more right, better timbre, more dynamics. Its the same signature with every improvement (except for maybe the .......
16: RE: Seriously... (6.02)
Posted by Beetlemania on 2013-05-31, 22:01:24 (65.130.71.219)
>>>I do hear differences between real-time playback of FLAC files and WAV files. So, that was without memory playback? >>>that your system has poor resolution I don't think so. Probably the weakest li .......
17: RE: cardas clear usb (5.89)
Posted by Gabster on 2010-03-19, 00:34:56 (123.243.83.99)
Hi, I have tried the Cardas and a few others, I have also listened at length to the Kimber USB. I found the Kimber to be "unbalanced" in the sense that it opened the sound a bit but added too much "s .......
18: Freeway 2 Impression! (5.78)
Posted by jlingo on 2007-11-03, 03:23:30 (222.124.73.76)
Well, my freeway 2 has been burning in for over a week or two. Definitely it hasn't passed the recommended one month burning in time. The results so far have been very satisfying. At the beginning, I .......
19: Could be system related (5.77)
Posted by rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com on 2008-12-06, 16:59:07 (72.145.182.178)
I find the high frequencies to be in better balance with #14. I remember the revelation from my early audio experiences that most times the component with natural treble balance can seem dull intially .......
20: MacBook Pro run off battery (5.63)
Posted by Mercman on 2009-11-07, 09:19:54 (70.181.200.118)
Norm reminded me to try my MacBook Pro run off the battery. Tha MacBook Pro was plugged into a PS Audio Duet (prevents retrograde contamination) which was plugged into a Shunyata V-Ray II. The sound w .......
21: RE: Try this (5.61)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-07-16, 00:59:35 (85.19.92.6)
Hi and thanks a lot indeed again ! I will try it for sure. Moreover ... i have also the feeling that in the end maybe the OS and SW player have a bigger impact on sound than the HW. Very good HW is al .......
22: Foobar 0.9.45 Worse than 0.8.3 (5.58)
Posted by Jon L on 2007-12-06, 21:35:30 (71.110.241.250)
Finally did some level-matched A-B comparison between Foobar older version 0.8.3 with Otachan ASIO plugin and new 0.9.45 with supplied ASIO plugin. There's no way to use the Otachan ASIO with new Foo .......
23: RE: How are you using Audacity? (5.52)
Posted by LtMandella on 2023-02-09, 09:07:52 (68.108.173.65)
It took me a while experimenting to get what I consider now as excellent rips. I ended up changing my cartridge (changed to AT moving coil),my phono preamp (IFI with MC input), the power supply for m .......
24: RE: Who cares? (5.46)
Posted by Tony Lauck on 2012-06-01, 17:40:45 (65.19.76.104)
The subwoofer is a 10.6" composite unit, model 11w7670. There are two 6.5" drivers on each satellite, one woofer plus midrange and the other midrange only, "W" cone, model 6w4379B. The tweeter is the .......
25: RE: This is VERY enlightening advice. Thanks. (5.45)
Posted by aljordan on 2009-07-17, 19:04:42 (74.69.242.210)
Hi Lance, I own the Lynx 2B. I also have owned the Havana for about a year, and would still own it if I didn't by a Cosecant, as I think it is a great sounding DAC with excellent low level resolution. .......
26: RE: Like any other cable (5.44)
Posted by ted_b on 2010-01-14, 20:02:31 (99.66.103.172)
George, I tried the Amphenol On Demand FW cables, based on your post. I have used GoldX exclusively since moving to them for my Macbook SSD to Weiss DAC2 (6 pin to 6 pin). Well, here are my unscientif .......
27: SSRC, PPHS, SRC (5.43)
Posted by Jon L on 2005-06-24, 16:04:23 (162.119.232.102)
all sound different to me at given "kHz" upsampling mode. So try all of them at all frequencies (88.2, 96, 176.4, 192) and pick the one that goes well with your tastes/system. I will say that up to 88 .......
28: My research (5.42)
Posted by Gordon Rankin on 2009-10-09, 07:31:22 (216.196.210.252)
Gang, I did a paper on this and maybe I will dig it up sometime. We found that really the best way to do multiple amplifier systems was with an electronic xover and IDENTICAL amplifiers for each drive .......
29: Doppler =IM distortion makes 100-1.5K good compromise (5.42)
Posted by scooter on 2009-10-10, 23:07:29 (66.53.123.200)
Mixing large excursion low frequencies with small excursion high frequencies on the same speaker cone generates Doppler = Intermodulation distortion, which increases in percentage as the low frequency .......
30: $369.00 (5.39)
Posted by niws on 2013-01-19, 14:16:24 (173.70.42.160)
That's how much I just spent on a Micromega Mydac and so far I couldn't be happier, based on what I spent. I will post more comments on its sound quality after I have spent more time with it have a b .......
31: Looking For A Speaker As Uncolored As The Oontz (5.34)
Posted by Mike Porper on 2015-10-14, 13:15:13 (204.152.235.219)
Ok. So far, I've been able to audition about a dozen or so of the so-called bluetooth (self-amplified) speakers. All of them, with very few exceptions, have sounded like pure garbage. They range from .......
32: RE: Point Taken.... (5.31)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2010-03-24, 17:05:12 (68.210.75.217)
Didn't say you pre-judged, Dyna. But someone (don't remember who) went looking and jumped to conclusions about the toslink input. No big deal. We all do that sort of thing, and most of us have embrace .......
33: Speakers are 20-20Khz BW...1.5-3K sibilance (5.19)
Posted by scooter on 2009-10-11, 10:10:49 (63.20.182.87)
A speaker has a 20-20Khz total bandwidth. The 1.5K-3K frequency range is considered important to optimize voice sibilance and the harmonics from instruments supporting the main musical voicing. A fund .......
34: Midrange DAC with 24/96 input by USB (5.05)
Posted by Mike W on 2009-01-03, 15:24:47 (69.106.250.66)
I'm currently using EMU 0404 USB (upgraded power supply) as my DAC which pretty good for an entry-level/budget audiophile DAC. It has a native USB input that supports 24/96 files, which is really cool .......
35: RE: Ok ssse3 makes everything right and then some, thank you (5.04)
Posted by GStew on 2010-08-01, 09:30:35 (67.60.98.130)
Funny how what we listen for and how our systems sound effects our impression of a change. For me, my setup was tending towards a little thinness in the midrange and warmth areas with B36. I had stuck .......
36: Keep trying you have taken us on a long rewarding journey so far (5.02)
Posted by theob on 2010-01-08, 13:28:18 (64.202.52.124)
The medium buffer truly is remarkable in the midrange. If you can improve upon 34 it will indeed be amazing to those of us that appreciate music in the home. Again well done and thank you! ::: TOPIC:: .......
37: RE: Micromega Mydac (4.92)
Posted by niws on 2013-02-17, 17:40:23 (74.102.114.166)
I believe the Minimax plus is a $1000 dac. I have not heard it. The Micromega is considerably cheaper. However, the Micromega has a very natural sounding midrange that is remarkably (for the price) fr .......
38: RE: Midrange DAC with 24/96 input by USB (4.91)
Posted by Roseval on 2009-01-05, 10:40:41 (92.254.0.240)
The Cambridge and maybe the Chordette but it's specs are a bit unclear The Well Tempered Computer .......
39: CIA SBT Power Supply in the house..... (4.88)
Posted by Ozzy on 2011-11-03, 16:22:04 (72.86.12.233)
....and money well spent too. Better dynamics, more snap, and fuller midrange. All of the things I was looking for. Oz .......
40: RE: USB DAC'S Bad????????? (4.88)
Posted by aljordan on 2009-07-04, 16:56:16 (74.69.242.210)
Hi Chopper87, I used to own a Havana. I think it is a very nice sounding DAC. Do you find the coax spdif connection to have a bit of digital glare compared to the USB connection? When I had the Havana .......
41: Re: Nixon usbtd with & without upgrade PS - comments please (4.81)
Posted by TomekZ on 2007-01-22, 19:56:41 (216.170.235.144)
With the 3xac vs. the stock, I noticed the midrange mostly became more open, much more open, more there. .......
42: B16 is in the works... (4.79)
Posted by cics on 2008-06-07, 21:38:32 (198.54.202.234)
Yes B15 has excellent bass, but b13 offers better midrange. B16 addresses this and a bug fix. .......
43: RE: Keep it (4.79)
Posted by niws on 2013-02-16, 16:09:06 (74.102.114.166)
I agree with the above. Keep the ARC and try the Micromega Mydac. I have a Mydac and really like it. I would bet its midrange and soundstaging performance will be very close to the $2000 dacs you are .......
44: RE: Defensive?-Server2012 (4.79)
Posted by fmak on 2013-10-01, 07:49:47 (87.228.249.167)
Sounds rather nice even with Fidelizer 3. Midrange is such that the other 32 bit OSs cannot match. Is it 64 bit or is it something else. .......
45: Re: USB Off-Ramp - Quick Review (4.79)
Posted by Socrates428 on 2005-03-21, 11:21:47 (68.235.168.103)
Could you give a more detailed review of what you hear with the SA-14 on redbook vs. DAC1 fed by the Marantz vs DAC1 fed via PC? The Marantz is one of my favorite CD and SACD players and I think it ha .......
46: A waste of a good sub (4.79)
Posted by J.Mac on 2009-04-22, 18:55:38 (67.162.146.106)
I'm not fond of the Squeezebox Boom sound. IMHO, it has a very etched and unnatural midrange. If you go this way, use a cheap sub, preferably with line level inputs. .......
47: RE: With a previous DAC I owned (4.79)
Posted by Dawnrazor on 2023-11-28, 10:24:40 (108.234.77.201)
Yeah that was some of what I was hearing, though it might be better to describe it as a lack of midrange warmth/ presence and bass rhythm that made it sound brighter. .......
48: RE: Comparison to Kimber USB? (4.79)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-01-19, 16:27:45 (68.6.165.139)
My friends and I prefer the Kimber. It has a "less grainy" midrange than the Belkin. A very nice cable for the money. I use the .5 meter. .......
49: RE: F3 (4.76)
Posted by Telstar on 2009-10-13, 12:08:19 (93.32.105.167)
I Like my F3 very much. You are lucky to have the chance to listen to the J2 and in your own setup! Please tell me the differences that you find between the two, in particular regarding the midrange a .......
50: Experiment (4.76)
Posted by AstroD on 2009-11-15, 15:26:53 (66.74.198.230)
My system has issues with lower midrange clarity and detail, so I decided to try an experiment: hook up my other computer's Harmon Kardon Soundsticks as poweramp + speakers. The result is very interes .......
51: below 100Hz (4.76)
Posted by Gordon Rankin on 2009-10-09, 12:20:06 (66.161.252.51)
Herman, I always xover the bass to midrange below 100Hz. Thanks Gordon .......
52: RE: Life after the TDA1541 (4.75)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-09-27, 06:21:29 (99.174.246.225)
TDA1541- rolled off high end, warm midrange, and poorly defined bass. Yes, true sonic Nirvanna. .......
53: RE: This is VERY enlightening advice. Thanks. (4.72)
Posted by chopper87@aol.com on 2009-07-17, 21:04:37 (64.12.116.16)
""I own the Lynx 2B. I also have owned the Havana for about a year, and would still own it if I didn't by a Cosecant, as I think it is a great sounding DAC with excellent low level resolution. Do you .......
54: RE: Interesting Posts (4.71)
Posted by Squonk on 2008-01-16, 07:38:18 (68.73.158.171)
Good for you. If there was a way, I would use a pre-amp for the bass, and no pre-amp for midrange and treble. .......
55: I use (4.71)
Posted by JB on 2009-03-11, 10:33:35 (71.38.175.78)
a flavor 3 from Chris with Oyaide 079 connectors on either end . The bass end took on some heft and midrange/treble mellowed some from a stock cord . Joe .......
56: RE: nobody knows what is going on here, (4.69)
Posted by fmak on 2009-11-23, 08:43:55 (87.228.210.244)
To audiophiles, your secondary problem is their primary one. Even to inexperineced listeners, the differences can be obvious. My wife, with zero interst in hifi, instantly recogniswed a 0.3 dB increas .......
57: iTunes 8.0 for Mac (4.66)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-09-11, 17:47:49 (72.199.184.95)
The new iTunes 8.0 (for Mac ) seems to sound a little better than the former version 7.71. It seems more open in the midrange with a bit more clarity. Overall, very nice. .......
58: RE: Please Help Build My PC System (4.66)
Posted by Kody on 2016-09-22, 15:17:37 (73.34.178.186)
PAR, Just to be safe, I ordered the Dynaudio XEO4's today. However, most of the reviews I read on the XEO2's, and I'm pretty sure I read them all, rated the bass as being pretty good. Check out the re .......
59: RE: How would you characterize (4.59)
Posted by Sprezza Tura on 2014-10-28, 10:15:45 (209.95.36.61)
The sound is cleaner, more finessed, especially in the midrange and treble. The SOtM's firmware is more stripped down and it has no wifi receiver, and no display, which also adds to its sonic purity. .......
60: RE: Blind alleys. (4.58)
Posted by Dawnrazor on 2012-08-28, 22:38:56 (24.6.239.64)
Personally I am not against measurements. Sometimes they provide much insight. But how do you measure soundstage?? Or imaging?? Midrange clarity?? etc. Certainly there is middleground and both extreme .......
61: RE: What is the rest of your system? (4.58)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2010-04-19, 15:49:55 (72.154.53.234)
I don't think the Benchmark is the problem. Grainy on "some tracks" and lean in the midrange sounds like you don't like the recordings, not the DAC that is revealing them. Though I'm not sure what the .......
62: RE: Sonic Impressions of Three Music Programs For OSX (4.55)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-11-26, 12:07:37 (70.181.190.237)
When comparing Pure Music to Audirvana Plus, be sure to reboot the computer if playing A+ first. A+ will cause problems with the PM memory buffer and harden the midrange. Thanks for your comments. ::: .......
63: RE: cPlay 1.4 Final Released (4.54)
Posted by seger on 2008-10-01, 11:36:34 (82.71.32.65)
Bass is not weaker in 1.4 - an illusion corrected by direct a-b comparisons. Reason is 1.4 is well and truly centred in midrange now, and richness extends right down to bass - good work. 145/192 best .......
64: RE: Keep it (4.50)
Posted by Bob_C on 2013-02-16, 16:41:30 (108.41.236.84)
"I have a Mydac and really like it. I would bet its midrange and soundstaging performance will be very close to the $2000 dacs you are considering." I do not have one, but I am tempted to get one and .......
65: RE: MORE FILES (4.50)
Posted by Jolida on 2011-09-09, 06:47:09 (122.174.153.134)
Exactly !! More transparent. Most of all I liked the Delicacy in the Midrange & Instrument-definition. And again, Noise-floor dropped further. Am able to hear how long the piano notes are sustained in .......
66: RE: Best computer sound - which direction? (4.50)
Posted by Telstar on 2009-05-17, 06:31:28 (93.32.131.182)
You ask for best, so none of the 3 options will provide the "best" sound coming out of a computer. _ "The midrange is where we live." - Paul Klipsch .......
67: RE: Upgradeing to Wyred4Sound Dac1 thoughts (4.48)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2012-01-22, 20:40:16 (174.51.211.143)
The Mini DAC is outstanding. The DAC2 seems to be more resolving, a bit smoother, with deeper more robust bass and beefier midrange. I could easily enjoy either of them but the DAC2 is a definite step .......
68: RE: cPlay 1.0b6 released-- initial impressions (4.47)
Posted by cics on 2008-05-14, 03:13:01 (196.11.134.77)
In my reference setup , cPlay 1.0b6 is magnificent. I want no compromise in the midrange and this version does it very well (without loosing any of the strengths that prior cPlay versions offered). :: .......
69: Windows 8.1 Initial Sonic Impressions (4.42)
Posted by Mercman on 2013-10-18, 17:54:31 (70.181.188.112)
8.1 sounds faster to me in the low end and highs. Clearer in the midrange. Bass is better controlled. Less dark sounding than Windows 8. Overall, I really like it with JRiver 19 / JPlay on my system. .......
70: @bertel & telrab: Do you get improvement with additional Device Manager changes? (4.40)
Posted by cics on 2009-03-22, 01:03:43 (198.54.202.226)
Use SSE4 version and set RAM timings to Auto (this would give 3-3-3-7@300MHz). Midrange performance should have a purity and lushness that delivers an amazing emotional impact. I have no tubes in the .......
71: SSD Drives and the Music (4.39)
Posted by Mercman on 2009-02-26, 14:04:38 (72.199.184.95)
A number of inmates have noted an improvement in sound when using an SSD drive for the OS. Gordon, Alan, and SeVeReD to name a few. The last several days I have been listening to my 17 “ 2.92GHz MacBo .......
72: RE: 2011 vs earleir models (4.38)
Posted by dmccombs on 2011-08-31, 14:17:05 (192.147.68.236)
Lokie, Yes there are significant sound quality difference between the 2009, 2010, and 2011 models. The 2010 is a faster machine than the 2009, and the 2009 uses a different power supply. The 2010 .......
73: RE: my system (4.38)
Posted by aljordan on 2008-09-06, 09:41:27 (74.69.243.112)
I've never listened to Linn gear so I cant give a very worhwhile recommendation. One nice thing about the Benchmark is that you can audition it for a month (at least in the United States). I think it .......
74: Re: Apogee Mini Dac (4.38)
Posted by Don Quichotte on 2006-04-21, 04:38:10 (86.106.89.68)
Interesting, I would like to know how does the Mini-Dac compare to the Arcam 33. Please post your impressions. I own the mini-dac and, while I like its detail, I think it could be more colorful and co .......
75: RE: cPlay 2.0b35 Released (4.37)
Posted by theob on 2010-03-03, 11:53:22 (68.43.143.212)
Initial comments also: while I agree with playmates comments in general I would say 35 sounds like there is more midrange at the expense of extension at both ends...a little brighter/airier in upper m .......
76: RE: E-MU 1616M PCI vs Lynx Two B - on playback only (4.33)
Posted by AstroD on 2009-09-13, 18:53:27 (66.74.198.230)
I recently picked up the 1212m and so far I'm very impressed. The 1616m has the same converters and PCI card. I just happened to do an RMAA test on it and came away with some crazy good THD measuremen .......
77: PS and Benchmark (4.33)
Posted by Jon L on 2009-01-16, 09:56:55 (71.104.147.91)
It doesn't surprise me *that much* (maybe a little) that some well-implemented soundcard sounds "better" than PS DLIII or Benchmark, neither providing that pure, dense, singular midrange coherence IMO .......
78: RE: @bertel & telrab: Do you get improvement with additional Device Manager changes? (4.27)
Posted by telrab on 2009-03-25, 03:18:11 (80.79.108.1)
Cics, The additional changes give a clearly noticable improvement in SQ: a more delicate and detailed midrange, the 'S'-sound in voices is more prominent as well. I now tend to push the volume even lo .......
79: RE: Trends "Audio UD-10" Packed It In.......Now Where????? (4.26)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-08-21, 17:13:00 (72.199.184.95)
I have never heard the Musical Fidelity, but I can talk to you about the Wavelength products. Both the Cosecant and the Crimson have undergone a significant transformation, and in my opinion, a major .......
80: B12's performance (4.26)
Posted by cics on 2008-05-29, 20:06:46 (198.54.202.234)
I've never experienced such a pure midrange until b12. You should get near perfect micro-dynamics and very articulate bass. It's to do with jitter - that's why audio players sound different yet send t .......
81: RE: Damnit! That's it, I'm done with WinAmp! (4.23)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-10-09, 09:49:51 (75.8.124.9)
I loved the way Winamp sounded with Ottochan ASIO plugin. The only problem I had was that the program would make a beep sound intermittently while listening to music. Too bad, as Winamp had a great mi .......
82: RE: Pure Music back to iTunes (4.22)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2010-03-24, 06:18:26 (68.210.75.217)
No, the 9.1s include a DAC/pre, based on the TOL Wolfson chip, which measures (if you put any weight in such verification) essentially identical to the Benchmark DAC1/Pre built with the same chip. In .......
83: RE: seems ?? (4.21)
Posted by antigrunge on 2012-01-28, 15:18:54 (78.146.194.13)
I meant that it is no longer available, i.e. the respective Icon cannot be clicked. ARC does precisely what it says on the can, so provided the recording is in-phase, there is a significantly improved .......
84: RE: Why base a server on a $59 card (4.21)
Posted by Telstar on 2009-04-25, 13:30:29 (93.32.169.130)
I don't know about that Fred. The DAC I have with the silver wire thingies sounds better than the dCS stuff to me and is much cheaper. I guess its a matter of taste and opinion. What's the DAC that .......
85: New Computer Sound System (4.21)
Posted by danlaudionut on 2010-09-16, 16:16:59 (205.188.116.16)
I decided to splurge for an early Christmas present to myself ... Xonar Essence STX Sound Card M-Audio Studiophile AV 40 Speakers Out of the box it wasn't too bad until you cranked it up then WOW thos .......
86: Amarra 2.1 vs Pure Music 1.65a Sonic Comparison (4.20)
Posted by Mercman on 2010-12-09, 15:55:08 (70.181.190.222)
Amarra 2.1 has a similar tonal balance when compared to Pure Music 1.65a. They both are well balanced top to bottom with no emphasis at the top, midrange or bass. The midrange on both is excellent wit .......
87: RE: bypassing media player upsampling, (4.19)
Posted by AstroD on 2009-10-12, 23:08:51 (66.74.198.230)
I find 44/16 to have a sound characterized by what I'd call tiny "holes" or "gaps" in the midrange. Maybe I'm too aware of the limitations of 44khz sampling, but when I upsample, those gaps are "fille .......
88: hmm.. I prefer PC with Foobar 0.83. (4.18)
Posted by newneringa@yahoo.com on 2009-07-04, 10:51:36 (71.92.223.178)
just got my mac mini yesterday. I connected to my crimson silver. immediately I noticed how the midrange sound different than my pc setup. PC + foobar 0.8.3 is sweeter and that's what I like. hmmm...M .......
89: RE: Fidelia Beta (4.18)
Posted by Mercman on 2012-02-04, 13:52:51 (70.181.190.237)
Sure, I've compared them. Audirvana Plus has more mid bass and is warmer sounding. Fidelia has more midrange presence than Aurivana and Pure Music. Pure Music remains my favorite. One problem I have d .......
90: CPU Voltage now set to 1.01250V, Vcc is 0.976V (CPU-Z @idle) (4.16)
Posted by cics on 2008-08-24, 17:23:51 (198.54.202.234)
Set host frequency to to 170 - this is good for 192k @ SRC 145db SNR. Midrange performance is exquisite! More bass energy and highs have more detail. I've never heard mids rendered with such perfectio .......
91: RE: And 1/10th the price USD of Amarra but Vista only... (4.15)
Posted by seger on 2009-07-10, 05:21:59 (82.71.32.65)
A few hours of listening and comparing only, but in a 3-system computer that allows me to change back and forth between players in less than a minute. HQPlayer and XXHighEnd-09-x7 in Windows 7, cPlay .......
92: Linux Mint with the real time kernel is Amazing (4.14)
Posted by Dynaudio_Rules on 2009-08-27, 03:52:19 (66.188.68.67)
Any hint of digit affects are certainly gone, midrange takes on a whole new open character of clarity, depth, and presence without even the slightest hint of glare. Decay that was un-noticed before is .......
93: Actually Abe was Right (4.14)
Posted by "Red" on 2013-07-21, 09:45:48 (99.100.50.29)
Actually in my set up, I am interested in more midrange and bass weight when using the Macbook Pro as a server. This is why I remembered reading about a comment in one of the audio forums and why I as .......
94: RE: Benchmark vs Lynx (4.14)
Posted by aljordan on 2007-12-31, 04:03:34 (74.69.243.112)
Hi Dawnrazor, I am using the stock breakout cables with the Lynx. I have been considering buying one of the Zaolla breakouts, although I would have to change a couple of the female XLRs to male since .......
95: RE: Mac Mini vs Macbook and Itunes 8.0 vs 7.7 (4.13)
Posted by Tokyohifi on 2008-09-19, 17:06:33 (218.47.39.51)
Thanks everyone for their comments. I did check all the itunes settings, and everything was off -equalizer, sound check, etc. I may not be able to do the itunes 8 macbook vs mini as quickly as I hoped .......
96: PlayPcmWin (4.12)
Posted by tes on 2014-04-03, 18:38:45 (108.162.174.125)
greetings... I recently came across a new audio player for Windows. It is called PlayPcmWin. This thing is more open and detailed across the midrange and bass. It is always fun to hear more from fami .......
97: Winamp Pro 5.31 (4.10)
Posted by Mercman on 2006-10-26, 12:15:44 (68.6.154.20)
I have been playing with Winamp Pro 5.31 with the Otachan ASIO plugin SSE2 and ASIO4ALL wrapper. The midrange from this combination is simply outstanding with my Cosecant USB Dac. Has anyone else tr .......
98: Any one think Jriver 16 sounds different than 15? (4.09)
Posted by barondla on 2011-08-08, 21:19:24 (8.18.145.144)
Free trialed 15, decided to buy, and ended up with 16. Noticed I was listening to music less and less. Tried 15 again and think I prefer it. 16 sounds more metallic in the midrange,with less warmth. .......
99: RE: Finally got a squeezebox (4.08)
Posted by kh6idf on 2008-07-30, 18:57:10 (98.194.229.125)
About 3 months later.. I have 76 stations created on Pandora, a dozen or more 128-256kb/s Internet radio stations stored as favorites, and have just activated my Rhapsody 30-day trial after reading th .......
100: RE: Midrange DAC with 24/96 input by USB (4.07)
Posted by Roseval on 2009-01-04, 08:08:41 (92.254.0.240)
You might have a look at my website, there is a list of USB DACs The Well Tempered Computer .......
101: RE: iTunes Locks up when Loading music into Memory. (4.04)
Posted by Mercman on 2013-01-01, 13:06:08 (70.181.190.237)
Is the green int light on the Audirvana plus player on? I can only guess what the PS Audio is using. If the green indicator is on and the music plays, integer is working. Integer playback has less pre .......
102: RE: Listening Impressions of the Pegasus Thunderbolt Drive (4.03)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-08-27, 09:45:05 (70.181.190.222)
I did compare the eSata connection with the Thunderbolt and found the Thunderbolt to be better. The real test is to listen to the Thunderbolt for a week and then go back to the eSata/Firewire. The dif .......
103: Sonics (especially the highs) are darn near perfect (4.02)
Posted by theob on 2008-05-10, 07:30:33 (68.40.116.205)
The high frequencies are very natural, sounding very coherent with respect to the midrange. Lots of hifi playback hardware/software separates the highs from the mids which lends itself to edginess, ha .......
104: RE: MacBook to Cary CDP DAC Input Question (4.01)
Posted by Mercman on 2012-12-09, 07:56:41 (70.181.190.237)
We did listen to DSD files with a Mac system using Pure Music. Yes, the DSD files sounded better on the Mytek than PCM. Certainly a richer midrange with greater ease in the high end. I will be adding .......
105: You should consider any of the musical fidelity VDACS (4.00)
Posted by kenzo on 2018-08-17, 18:47:38 (67.161.54.65)
I still use the original in my main system. somewhat forgiving of excessively "hot" digital, but still sounds in my system airy, extended, sweet midrange, plenty of bass, great overall musical balance .......
106: RE: Review of USB Cables (4.00)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-11-07, 15:47:30 (72.199.184.95)
I noticed stronger deeper bass, more high end air, and better midrange defintion with the RSA cable when compared to the Synergistic Research cable. The Synergistic cable seems a bit constricted compa .......
107: RE: New CMP machine - where'd my bass go? (3.98)
Posted by needtubes on 2012-07-03, 16:30:02 (72.198.27.115)
I installed the same version of foobar as on my Windows 7 machine and the bass livened up again, but definitely at the expense of midrange presence. It sounds to me that the newest foobar (1.1.13, I t .......
108: B13 vs B14 (3.98)
Posted by cics on 2008-06-03, 11:27:40 (198.54.202.226)
Do you think you could make cPlay accept multiple-file cuesheets at some point? I think this is needed before final release... Comparing b13 to b14 is interesting. B13 has the edge over b14 in the mi .......
109: can you limit the range of correction? (3.98)
Posted by DrChaos on 2021-09-03, 17:39:12 (66.10.101.210)
On my Anthem ARC correction, I limit the top frequency of correction to 1000 Hz or less. The manual even advocates such with their own Martin Logan speakers (as they share a corporate parent), and I f .......
110: I also used EAC for ripping but now I use JRiver (3.97)
Posted by SimonTJU on 2011-05-24, 13:01:43 (71.203.122.243)
...so today, I ripped a fee of my reference tracks in EAC and JRiver and play them back via JRiver. EAC has a slightly better top, more extended JRiver has a slightly richer midrange, same with upper .......
111: RE: following Vincent's (VRS) recommendation, I dld Bias Peak LE... (3.95)
Posted by Mercman on 2007-08-30, 17:24:15 (68.6.154.20)
Enjoy iTunes. It actually sounds quite good. The best of these other programs will give you a more forward perspective and clarity in the midrange with a sense of greater openness in the high end. The .......
112: I prefer my Shindo preamp... (3.94)
Posted by restock on 2009-12-01, 23:24:30 (99.232.83.128)
... to the Weiss DAC2 internal volume control by a quite some margin. The Shindo improves flow and richness and detail in the midrange. The Weiss direct is a bit tighter but less full in the bass. A b .......
113: RE: On my highly resolving system of SET amps and Horns... (3.94)
Posted by Mike Mc on 2011-09-02, 20:44:46 (121.223.172.102)
I initially used the S/Box with the internal DAC, but ultimately found it lacked that certain something. I ended up with a Havana, which I feel is better, especially in the midrange. The internal DAC .......
114: Re: M-audio Audiophile 2496 (3.93)
Posted by Scruffy_ on 2005-01-24, 04:51:33 (66.245.193.55)
My M-Audio Revolution produced a hum and distortions in the midrange, but I think it’s going to be highly dependent on the computer and its power supply. The internal cards are fine for regular comput .......
115: RE: Pinging Mercman (3.92)
Posted by Mercman on 2016-11-05, 15:31:43 (70.179.38.93)
I have experience with both of the cables you mentioned, and have them both here. The JCAT Reference has a more laid back sound that tends to be "richer " sounding with less emphasis on the high end. .......
116: RE: Cplay & usb users (3.92)
Posted by AstroD on 2010-05-20, 09:56:24 (66.74.198.230)
I had the on-board audio enabled and after disabling that, it worked. Thanks. With my current ever-evolving system, the differences between Foobar w/ASIO4ALL and CPlay are actually very minor to my ea .......
117: RE: Inmates! Please, also CHECK THIS! (3.90)
Posted by theob on 2011-12-02, 16:46:59 (76.122.133.81)
At 1st I did shy away because of Mihaylov's warning but finally tried it. Sonically not sure I like it...it tends to add weight in the lower midrange and on some music it sounds good but on big classi .......
118: Amarra 2.31 (3.89)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-09-17, 09:01:38 (70.181.190.222)
Sonic Studio has just released Amarra 2.31. I will not waste anyones's time. This is a great sounding music program and Sonic's best Amarra by far. My tesing was done in OSX Lion. As most of you know, .......
119: RE: Hi-res vs. Redbook (3.89)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-07-27, 08:30:18 (72.199.184.95)
David, You can rip DVD-As and Classic DAD. I know you asked about 192/24 material. I have some on DVD-As I ripped. Also, check out iTrax for 96/24 stuff. The music may appeal to you. If so, the record .......
120: RE: I'm just using my ISP to stream Lossless FLAC... (3.88)
Posted by Jaundiced Ear on 2016-07-20, 22:40:02 (75.53.180.112)
This is beyond bandwidth hogs, now we're getting into the realm of bandwidth black holes. Where are the audio reviewers when you need them? We need them to tell us how the treble is much more delicat .......
121: RE: Midrange DAC with 24/96 input by USB (3.88)
Posted by Mike W on 2009-01-05, 14:16:47 (69.106.250.66)
This review of DacMagic says "The DacMagic USB input does not support native high resolution files at 24/96". http://www.computeraudiophile.com/Cambridge-Audio-DacMagic-Review Couldn't find more info .......
122: RE: Quad Core i7 vs Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro (OSX) (3.86)
Posted by aljordan on 2011-03-22, 08:39:53 (204.10.46.254)
Hi Ted, Comparatively, in my system, Linux/MPD and OSX/Pure Music have a slightly softer sound with a bit more fullness in the midrange than my Windows boxes. The Windows boxes seem to accentuate the .......
123: RE: A New Basic Setup (3.85)
Posted by John Elison on 2019-11-17, 09:25:35 (192.180.236.80)
I kind of wish the Thiel's were biampable. I guess Jim Thiel though that was ridiculous. Still, it wouldn't hurt to have a second set of speaker terminals so the woofer section could have its own ampl .......
124: The Final Chapter for the Opticis Stretch USB Cable (3.85)
Posted by Mercman on 2006-05-06, 10:05:29 (68.105.74.72)
The Opticis Stretch USB Cable was powered by a battery source during this test. As others have previously suggested, it made a significant improvement to the sound heard from the Apogee Mini DAC USB ( .......
125: RE: E-MU 1616M PCI vs Lynx Two B - on playback only (3.84)
Posted by AstroD on 2009-09-14, 18:37:21 (66.74.198.230)
Quick update: Today I got my high quality 1/4" to RCA adaptors from Amazon so I can use my Acoustic Zen Matrix cables again. Man oh man is this sounding great, and I think I've solved the midrange iss .......
126: iZotope Ozone 4 (3.84)
Posted by Mercman on 2010-05-01, 08:24:25 (70.181.190.222)
Tony previously asked me to play with soundstage "enhancement" software. Using Pure Music 1.4, I was able to use the soundstage software with Ozone 4. Good fun. Yes, it can make a small soundstage sou .......
127: Re: New Scott-Nixon DAC --a lengthy comment (3.82)
Posted by TomekZ on 2007-01-20, 08:36:44 (69.129.204.201)
Having had a long 3+ year history with Nixon DACs, I received a new USBTD at the end of Dec. '06. Previously, I had a standard Tube Dac of 3+ year vintage, then a 2 year old TubeDAC+. Then last fall a .......
128: RE: Question about Emu USB vs PCI implementations (3.80)
Posted by AstroD on 2009-10-19, 14:43:27 (66.74.198.230)
A good, low-ripple power supply like I have for the 1212m (Corsair HX620) will likely trump any E-Mu USB DAC in bass weight and overall SQ. I tried the 0202 a few years ago and being bus powered it wa .......
129: RE: No. Softsqueeze goes through Windows audio (3.79)
Posted by spons on 2007-12-21, 13:57:17 (65.29.79.206)
Actually, I was asking about the benefits of using the SoftSqueeze software _only_ and outputting through my HagUSB USB sound card. That is moot now because I just went to Fry's and purchased a SB3 ($ .......
130: RE: what does 45nm mean? & other comments (3.79)
Posted by cics on 2008-06-11, 12:00:01 (198.54.202.226)
Intel 45nm technology is a useful site for understanding the importance of 45nm. VIA chipsets have very low power consumption. This is important. There should be no issues whatsoever with Juli@ at 48 .......
131: More feedback on juli@ analogue out (3.78)
Posted by theob on 2009-03-28, 08:16:35 (68.43.175.248)
I'm liking it very much (maybe after 3-4 days its broken in now). Even though the shortcomings I mentioned vs Dac1 are still there, at 150 host clock control, eist disabled, new devices disabled I am .......
132: RE: Integer Mode, not always a sonic step in the right direction. (3.76)
Posted by Mercman on 2012-09-10, 09:14:11 (99.174.246.225)
In very case of integer use, be it in SL, Lion, or Mtn Lion, the same sonic characteristics are heard. The soundstage becomes larger, the bass better defined, the sound is less warm overall and slight .......
133: RE: Doppler =IM distortion makes 100-1.5K good compromise (3.76)
Posted by rick_m on 2009-10-11, 09:28:01 (64.13.14.96)
In the communications field 300-3000 is the accepted minimum bandwidth for voice and a lot of research went into it because, especially in them-thar days, bandwidth was expensive and difficult. So, I .......
134: Impressions of the Apogee Mini Dac USB (3.76)
Posted by Mercman on 2006-04-29, 13:20:23 (68.105.74.72)
This morning I connected the computer and Apogee Mini DAC USB to the Levinson 32 and played it thought the Levinson 33H amps driving the Wilson 7s and Watchdog sub. Unfortunately, the optical USB exte .......
135: RE: Holding Off On Amarra - My Reason Why (3.76)
Posted by Mercman on 2009-08-14, 10:45:15 (70.181.200.118)
You should try it DR. You have a very nice system and may appreciate what it does. iTunes has a mid bass prominence. The bass is more linear with Amarra. It does not sound warm on my system. iTunes is .......
136: RE: Slimming cPlay (3.75)
Posted by theob on 2012-02-13, 11:58:57 (76.122.133.81)
I did some minimum cplay hacking and it was good. But now I have now replicated the above clean cplay look with Dave's help. Yes I lost some function (volume, balance, scrolling within a track, polari .......
137: RE: ThThoughts on Decibel vrs Pure Music - general sonic differences (3.75)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-02-01, 17:13:45 (70.181.190.222)
I don't hear it that way Bryan. PM has more midrange presence, is bigger sounding in the soundstage, and has more dynamic bass to my ear than Decibel. Pure music is anything but soft and diffuse sound .......
138: Long-awaited difference (3.73)
Posted by steppe on 2009-12-04, 23:32:32 (93.80.50.107)
Hello, Cics and everybody. This release is long-awaited for me, as I didn't much liked 32 - too soft and smooth. Now, this version really shines. Resolution and natural brightness of highs is back. Mi .......
139: RE: 'Japanese' Voicing (3.73)
Posted by fmak on 2012-04-15, 21:56:42 (93.109.212.163)
Adjectives are: Leanish Bass; midrange clarity; hf clarity plus a degree of coolness; clean; not 'warm' enough for some. This is to me the SQ character of Accuphase Preamps and some Class AB amps. I o .......
140: Cheap Good Sounding Alternative to T-Amp (3.72)
Posted by ssglx on 2006-09-20, 19:39:00 (64.12.116.131)
I want to get decent PC audio without spending much. I have a Sonic Impact amp fed by my PC's soundcard to my Acoustic Energy 300C bookshelf speakers. Not too bad, but the Sonic Impact amp has the sam .......
141: Mac Mini vs Macbook and Itunes 8.0 vs 7.7 (3.71)
Posted by Tokyohifi on 2008-09-18, 17:33:20 (209.93.238.23)
I have read some of the threads discussing the sound quality differences between Itunes 8.0 and 7.7. Seems like there many people that think the upgrade to 8.0 sounds better, while quite a few think i .......
142: Spotify uses the Ogg Vorbis Codec, MOG uses mp3 Codec (3.71)
Posted by bullethead on 2012-12-22, 17:21:44 (98.116.102.137)
Spotify standardized on a DRM wrapped Ogg Vorbis codec. I know a lot about that Ogg Vorbis codec as my good friend knows the guy who did most of the heavy lifting programming it. Ogg Vorbis emphasizes .......
143: You've used the term "flat earth" before (3.67)
Posted by JeffH on 2015-01-16, 17:30:11 (68.96.83.110)
what does it mean exactly? I have and like the Linn LP12. Does that make me flat earth? At what point does latency matter or become audible? Is it measured or perceived? If latency is simply delay, w .......
144: RE: Very interesting... (3.67)
Posted by Mercman on 2015-01-11, 13:35:02 (70.181.188.112)
I agree that DSD64 is soft at the high end and lacks the ultimate definition heard with 192/24. DSD128 preserves that "real midrange sound" of DSD 64 without the baggage of DSD 64. Comparing the DSD64 .......
145: Mini-DAC Power Supply Upgrade (3.66)
Posted by JerryS on 2010-05-10, 21:10:01 (24.8.65.191)
A worthwhile upgrade to the Mini-DAC is to replace the little 12W power supply that comes with the unit with an Elpac FWC5012-760F. This 50W power supply is plug-compatible with the Mini-DAC and remov .......
146: RE: I haven't heard the Benchmark (3.66)
Posted by aljordan on 2009-05-29, 16:03:15 (74.69.242.210)
Hi, The Benchmark and the MHDT Labs offerings are quite different in terms of presentation. I own a Benchmark and I've owned some of the MHDT Labs products. Your amp and preamp are both tube designs, .......
147: I prefer ASIO (3.65)
Posted by Jon L on 2009-02-11, 11:46:22 (71.104.147.91)
over KS. But these days, I resign myself that it's pretty much impossible to tell what each person's set up sounds like in their own PC audio "milieu." In my setup with Foobar 0.8.3 with ASIO otachan .......
148: RE: could be-Principle (3.63)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-05-08, 17:49:50 (70.181.190.222)
The story became more interesting when I asked him which computer he liked better. He picked the new one without hesitation, but because it is less bright sounding, he thought it was the older compute .......
149: RE: YouTube you linked to sounds good on my 4 year old MacBook Air... (3.63)
Posted by beppe61 on 2015-07-14, 09:59:32 (82.54.213.117)
Hi and thanks for the valuable confirmation Your system is a very high end one. Congratulations. But mine has no reason to sound good. As i am using the on-board sound card i wonder if some motherboar .......
150: iTunes and Leopard (3.62)
Posted by Mercman on 2007-10-28, 10:15:07 (68.6.168.108)
I like iTunes much better now running under Leopard than Tiger. I find the midrange and high end to be more open and less hard sounding. In fact, I have no need for the other music programs I was prev .......
151: Beautfill mids with (much) more resolution, space and rythm than previous versions (3.62)
Posted by hfavandepas on 2009-12-08, 04:01:45 (85.147.82.48)
Hi Cics, In my setup cPlay 2,0_B33 shows much improvement in the whole midrange. From upper bass / lower mids to the upper mids, the whole mid-range has more resolution, more detail, more ambiance, mo .......
152: Re: wma (3.61)
Posted by kjg on 2005-01-27, 08:35:03 (67.161.46.247)
I just did a head to head comparison of 160 kbps MP3, MP4 (M4A/AAC), and WMA encoded audio on my main system. MP4 was the winner (pretty darned close to the original FLAC files), MP3 a little behind i .......
153: some causes (3.59)
Posted by Joe Murphy Jr on 2012-03-21, 15:18:47 (24.179.58.245)
More jitter from some docks, more noise/RFI from the dock's components riding on the signal (digital is an analog signal after all), lesser quality components on the board, etc. Look at a teardown of .......
154: RE: Help with DAC for old system (3.58)
Posted by dirichlet on 2014-07-30, 15:06:30 (95.229.229.31)
I suppose that the high priced units would encounter a bottleneck with the relatively midrange equipment I have. My budget is secondary, it depends on what USB to coax unit makes sense to buy with the .......
155: RE: I thought PC users prefer XP for Audio. Change of heart? (3.57)
Posted by Les C on 2012-04-14, 11:11:57 (112.209.96.24)
it's subjective but i took out my old windows xp x64 install cd.. and i installed it.. and (don't throw the eggs).. it does sound better. better layering, more open, more involving. j river in win xp .......
156: RE: Portable Speaker Recommendation (3.54)
Posted by niws on 2021-11-01, 21:03:23 (96.234.39.66)
Recently I found myself in a similar situation. I tried the following speakers: Oontz Ultra: not good, not worth it. Audioengine 512: not bad and may work for you. A little light in the bass and a sli .......
157: Sheesh, where do I start ? (3.54)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2010-06-22, 22:40:37 (71.229.129.165)
Let's see. Pulling no punches... My disappointments in audio gear over the years: - Adcom GFP-750 linestage. A Nelson Pass design yes, but cheap ass parts dictated by Adcom. Over hyped by Stereopile, .......
158: RE: My research (3.53)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2009-10-09, 15:49:20 (72.154.53.61)
Gordon, I agree that keeping crossovers out of the critical midrange, and making them as steep (less crossover in the crossover) as possible is the best passive approach and minimizes problems. I've h .......
159: That seems about right to me (3.53)
Posted by Beetlemania on 2014-01-14, 10:09:15 (166.2.89.43)
In my comparisons, DSD might have a scotch more spatial information but 24-bit PCM seems a tad more musical, with more "bite" (micro-dynamics, maybe) and, seemingly, more resolution even in the midran .......
160: The "best" PC speakers wanted. Simple set-up desired. Recommendations please? (3.52)
Posted by eieio on 2004-11-22, 07:27:50 (69.200.88.175)
The "best" PC speakers wanted. Simple set-up desired. Recommendations please? Hi there. I've always neglected my PC's speakers, thinking that my "main" system is what I want to be really good, and I'l .......
161: Wavelength Cosecant USB DAC-Listening Impressions (3.52)
Posted by Mercman on 2006-08-01, 12:22:30 (70.234.12.171)
After using the Wavelength Cosecant USB DAC for the last several months, I am happy to say that this is the best digital product I have ever owned. It totally smoked my Reimyo CDP777. The Cosecant put .......
162: Not formally but... (3.52)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2012-01-30, 18:21:46 (174.51.211.143)
The W4S DAC2 is very dynamic with more pronounced lower midrange and bass depth and impact vs the Apogee. It seems to also create a larger soundstage with more air with a little better detail than the .......
163: RE: Advice Needed on Using a NAS for Playback (3.51)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2018-10-02, 13:41:08 (73.78.200.105)
USB to Ethernet converters work but I agree with Cut-Throat about eliminating the laptop+HDD. However, that would mean having some sort of streaming software on the NAS and controlling it with a lap .......
164: RE: Are dinky looking DACs worth their cheap price? (3.51)
Posted by kenzo on 2013-07-21, 22:26:36 (69.181.241.142)
I just bought a dinky little centrance dacport. Using it as a usb dac and preamp, it has made my two laptops sound as good as my CD transport into Cambridge Audio dacmagic/Transcendent Grounded Grid p .......
165: RE: Dac to amp via passive pre: experiment (3.51)
Posted by LtMandella on 2019-12-24, 12:54:54 (68.104.110.35)
Yes I have CREEK passive but it is OBH-12. The KORG DAC 100M has plenty of output voltage, I only use my Grounded Grid tube preamp because it sounds better. Will have to try the Musical Fidelity tube .......
166: RE: Yellowtec PUC2 (3.51)
Posted by erin on 2013-01-19, 15:46:23 (114.77.118.2)
Old thread but anyway... I looked inside a Yellowtec PUC 2. It has many chips inside it. One seems to be a microprocessor, or FPGA. It has two boards, but I did not remove the top board to check the e .......
167: Original HRT Streamer (3.50)
Posted by Ross on 2012-12-08, 13:05:50 (74.243.245.95)
I picked up a first gen HRT Streamer about 2 weeks ago from Craigslist. I finally installed it between my computer and the NAD receiver I use with my computer. WOW big difference. Better frequency ext .......
168: Best internet music streaming hardware (3.48)
Posted by raingerz on 2013-10-31, 19:00:02 (69.123.190.33)
Currently I have a Playstation 3 on which I run music streaming by Sony's Music Unlimited. I can't quarrel with the $5/month membership fee. Unfortunately, however, the sound is very dark, as the uppe .......
169: No experience with CI, but did shootout between the other two. (3.48)
Posted by carcass93 on 2010-04-22, 08:25:55 (129.33.19.254)
First of all, forget about USB input on DLIII - it's terrible, nothing more than bandwagon-jumping, the same as with Bryston, Audio Research and many other DACs. Between DLIII and Benchmark via SPDIF, .......
170: RE: PC or notebook for playback from sound card? (3.47)
Posted by aljordan on 2007-08-13, 05:51:01 (204.10.46.254)
Hi, Can you describe your system? I don't see it listed. I've owned a Bryston 4B-ST for a number of years. I think they are a top notch company and I loved the build quality. The upper mids were a lit .......
171: Final Thoughts on Audioquest Diamond USB Cable (3.47)
Posted by Mercman on 2011-03-12, 08:02:55 (70.181.190.222)
The Audioquest Diamond needs a good deal of break-in play. With adequate break-in, the soundstage will become larger and the bass will also improve. Compared to my LA002, the Audioquest sounds as big .......
172: Fantastic (3.46)
Posted by theob on 2011-06-11, 03:55:22 (76.122.133.81)
After a day or so of listening I have to tell you I have had several days of what I call 'religious experiences' while playing back many of my music files. The sense of depth and large space is extrem .......
173: RE: Testing Pure Music... (3.46)
Posted by Mercman on 2010-03-12, 06:48:35 (70.181.200.118)
No, you can't switch quickly between the programs. The sound of PM is more open and revealing in the midrange, much bigger soundstage, better defined bass than iTunes. iTunes is a bit heavy in the mid .......
174: RE: My experience-Accupahse (3.46)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2009-06-19, 20:46:53 (71.105.30.126)
"Accuphases digitals have a house sound, yes, delicate if you like to call them this way. Japanese voicing is my take - clean, dynamic, clear but somewhat lean to my ears." Interesting. My Accuphase .......
175: RE: USB Cables (3.45)
Posted by AstroD on 2011-03-01, 15:13:55 (66.74.198.230)
Wireworld is state of the art with USB cables. I've only used their entry level Ultraviolet model, but it's excellent and blows away an ordinary USB cable. Forget "bits are bits" and just listen. Mayb .......
176: RE: Lmao! (3.45)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-10-15, 10:37:19 (75.8.124.9)
The version 3 Cosecant is a big improvement over the ver 2. The Async USB interface in the ver 3 really improves focus and detail. I love the Numerator and prefer it to the NOS module. I think it has .......
177: Re: Q: USB cables & Galvanic Isolation (3.44)
Posted by Mercman on 2006-12-18, 11:00:35 (68.6.154.20)
I had been using the Opticis with a battery power supply for my PC given that it was 65 feet from the USB Dac. Today I connected the Opticis to my MacBook Pro with a short Kimber USB cable. I used the .......
178: Cplay version 2.0b34 is the gift that keeps on giving (3.42)
Posted by theob on 2010-01-06, 16:31:28 (68.43.143.212)
Listening to 44 / medium buffer I get a more fleshed out midrange from mid bass to upper mids that is ripe in a good way. Woodwinds sound rounder, acoustic guitar sound boards sound wonderful, voices .......
179: Do you have more info.... (3.39)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2012-03-21, 17:01:31 (174.51.211.143)
...to backup the comments below? "Look at a teardown of the Wadia 170i vs a teardown of the Onkyo ND-S1. Based on the manufacturer's name and reputation in High End audio gear, you would think that t .......
180: I'm trying the level just below .636 (.60?) nt (3.39)
Posted by theob on 2008-09-15, 05:03:57 (68.43.175.248)
Anyway so far so good. Time will tell. What does this do? I believe it reduces the fsb voltage further. Is that correct? Is it just another source for rfi if too high? I'll post my longer term comment .......
181: Re: Lynx 2B (3.39)
Posted by Jon L on 2004-11-26, 14:33:05 (204.1.248.126)
1. ANyhow, the computer/hard drive could be clearly heard. --You mean unshielded cable gave you hum/hiss with PC? 2.AXCO with do 1st through 4th order slopes. so yes it will do 3rd order. --FanTastic. .......
182: RE: Re-test with Main PSU powering HDD (3.38)
Posted by theob on 2009-03-28, 03:57:27 (68.43.175.248)
Right now I have to say the juli@ only because I don't get the problem. If the problem could be fixed I would have to go back and forth to make a definitive call. Are there any alternatives to the gd .......
183: RE: Mac Mini vs Macbook and Itunes 8.0 vs 7.7 (3.38)
Posted by Mercman on 2008-09-18, 17:52:02 (72.199.184.95)
I had to lower the output level of my sub with iTunes 8. After that, I had detail, balance with no congestion in the midrange or high end fatigue. I'm using a 2.8GHz iMac. As AudioDoctor previously ob .......
184: The Topping E30 DAC. I have one (3.37)
Posted by AbeCollins on 2022-04-13, 10:51:58 (73.229.163.4)
The Topping E30 is not a bad DAC and very reasonably priced. However, the Topping D90 is better IMHO with a more robust and dynamic sound. A little more 'meat' in the midrange too. The E30 might be a .......
185: Good feedback. Here's way forward (3.37)
Posted by cics on 2008-09-12, 22:24:51 (198.54.202.226)
cPlay 1.1 @ 176k or 192k gives best performance. At 96k (or less), 1.0 gives best performance. I'm going to release 1.2 that combines both aspects, i.e. tuning parameters optimises to output rate sele .......
186: cPlay 1.0b12 released (3.37)
Posted by cics on 2008-05-29, 08:44:07 (198.54.202.234)
Change Log: Increased time delays to support EMU/Creative cards Low-level optimization applied in ASIO interface Minor improvement in DSP performance Use new tuning parameters for all soundcards .......
187: RE: 100 - 5k midrange. I wish! (3.36)
Posted by EddieV on 2009-10-18, 11:50:49 (86.92.21.76)
I use the Bastanis full-range driver exactly for this purpose (see photo). It is a 12 inch unit that is optimized for use in open baffle. The down side of that is that the cross over should be at 2 .......
188: Anyone tried Phase 180? (3.36)
Posted by edward on 2008-09-21, 23:45:56 (72.220.6.63)
Hey "cics", first of all let me just say that 1.2.1 is a very nice improvement over 1.2. The midrange definitely has more resolution and is more 3D with more front to back separation. Keep up the good .......
189: Mini (3.35)
Posted by Telynau on 2009-11-13, 19:47:09 (67.86.2.145)
Yes, you can toggle back and forth. I think the demo is identical to the product -- it's just that without the dongle you get the interruptions. I never bothered with the demo, though -- just bought t .......
190: RE: Reference Recordings on a mac Mini (longish)? (3.35)
Posted by JerryS on 2009-01-23, 07:24:06 (75.70.49.103)
Go with an Apogee Mini-DAC with Firewire. Firewire is FAR better than Toslink, plus 24/192 is no problem. This DAC sounds very good and even better with an Elpac FWC5012-760F. This 50W power supply is .......
191: RE: What case you would recommend for CMP2 (3.32)
Posted by Phelonious Ponk on 2009-10-11, 03:35:56 (74.227.157.172)
I think there's a whole lot of theory being discussed here that doesn't necessarily work in practice. No surprise there. Speaker design is a choice of compromises, said the guy who never designed a sp .......
192: RE: Wavelength Silver Crimson-Final Thoughts (3.31)
Posted by Mercman on 2007-07-29, 17:37:36 (68.6.154.20)
Alan, I'll try to answer this. I have used ASIOFORALL and Asio2KS with Vista Business and XP Pro. I also played music straight through without ASIO. I have not tried the USB-ASIO Vista driver. I will .......
193: RE: Blind alleys. (3.31)
Posted by Tony Lauck on 2012-08-29, 08:08:23 (65.19.76.104)
" But how do you measure soundstage?? Or imaging?? Midrange clarity?? etc." Soundstage and imaging are high level perceptual constructs that are created by extensive "signal processing" in the brain .......
194: Try any 2 1/2 way (3.30)
Posted by Panelhead on 2009-10-10, 07:39:24 (98.196.133.233)
A 2 1/2 way speaker meets most of this. I have pair of 22L2 Quads that run the midrange driver full range on bottom, and cross over to the tweeter at 4K. Works great because almost all the music is i .......
195: silver (3.29)
Posted by Jon L on 2012-03-06, 00:45:35 (76.167.160.144)
It always amazes me how material/dielectric sound signature carry over from traditional analogue cables to digital/usb/firewire cables. I've tried cryo'd pure silver for computer audio, and while I a .......
196: Gustard U16 is in da house (3.29)
Posted by Sordidman on 2018-11-09, 14:12:11 (24.5.66.201)
Pretty nice sounding right out of the boxes. I am getting a little more low level detail already and am not losing any of the midrange that was happening with the Matrix. I am going to let it run-i .......
197: LOL (3.29)
Posted by Jon L on 2005-11-27, 15:56:24 (206.40.213.39)
My guess comes from playing with various upsampling and non-upsampling DAC's and also various upsampler software on my audio PC. This is rough guestimate only, of course, but IN GENERAL, upsampling sm .......
198: iPhone 4 connected to preamp (3.28)
Posted by AstroD on 2011-01-14, 15:43:51 (66.74.198.230)
I picked up the Wireworld iPod cable recently and it's pretty remarkable when used with my iPhone 4 and my big rig. It has a very rounded and complete sound in the lower midrange. This set up sounds s .......
199: RE: centrance dacport and output impedance (3.27)
Posted by kenzo on 2013-07-22, 08:35:34 (69.181.241.142)
Just wanted to mention in case anyone is considering a dacport that after a few days of burn in the dacport is now sounding absolutely glorious. I have been it using this weekend as a usp dac + preamp .......
200: Re: Wavelength Cosecant USB DAC-Listening Impressions (3.26)
Posted by GregPen on 2006-08-07, 17:25:53 (146.244.221.118)
Hello, I auditioned both the Brick and the Cosecant. I listened through a pair of Magico speakers and Thor amps. Jay at Audio Revelation was a great guy... I definitely heard a difference between the .......
Found 200 records in Critic's Corner.
1: RE: Over on the goN is a question: Why is there no Stereophile review of Magnepan 3.7? (7.20)
Posted by josh358 on 2011-08-06, 18:20:33 (64.252.130.180)
I'm wondering if they didn't do the same .5-way trick with the 3.7 that they did with the 1.7, but in this case in the midrange. (The ribbon tweeter already has superb dispersion and it shouldn't be a .......
2: RE: Nasality / Rogers LS3/5A (7.20)
Posted by geoffkait on 2022-09-22, 16:11:48 (98.169.214.23)
The LS3/5a's are world-renowned for having virtually no coloration in the midrange, along the lines of Quads, possessing very realistic and uncolored midrange. .......
3: RE: Question for all industry Insiders, Pistonic drivers (6.25)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2017-11-06, 20:20:07 (71.218.3.216)
>> Hope you are not describing those unnatural sounding Ceramic drivers or dynamic limited dome midrange /tweeters , Pistonic in the bass is a big advantage, but you will have a hard time beating the .......
4: RE: You know what (6.12)
Posted by Pat D on 2011-03-03, 19:26:09 (99.251.236.4)
The difference between the Kef 104 and Kef 104aB is the crossover. After 17 nor 18 years, one of the crossovers capacitors went, so I had the distributor put in the 104aB crossover. I am quite familia .......
5: RE: I don't go as far as you do, but I am more in agreement than not (6.08)
Posted by Dave_K on 2015-08-20, 15:59:27 (199.46.198.232)
That is a classic example of why you can't judge a speaker based on its near field on-axis pseudo-anechoic response. In the far field, in room, those ugly looking midrange peaks and nulls in the on-ax .......
6: Silver 8 vs Silver 6 (6.01)
Posted by STEVE H on 2015-07-30, 11:09:02 (71.165.4.50)
I compared the Silver 8 to the Silver 6 yesterday. Distinct difference I heard right away. Silver 8 had much more defined bass and very clear midrange. Silver 6 was very congested in the midrange, esp .......
7: RE: Imaginary yes! And I spot the CJ in the pic (5.99)
Posted by E-Stat on 2019-08-24, 07:06:09 (206.255.211.119)
I have a CJmv75a, the predecessor of sorts(?) It sounds really nice, just nice music, no mess no fuss. JWC reviewed that amp in the 80s when I using a Threshold Stasis 3. He let me borrow it for a w .......
8: RE: False assumptions lead to false conclusions (5.97)
Posted by jamesgarvin on 2017-11-07, 07:38:39 (72.49.6.227)
"A good example of this last point was when B&W debuted their generation 3 Nautilus (the current ones with the "Continuum" midrange cones) in Japan. Obviously they used Classe electronics (this was ab .......
9: RE: Question for all industry Insiders, Pistonic drivers (5.91)
Posted by A.Wayne on 2017-11-06, 20:05:23 (99.166.174.206)
Charles, Hope you are not describing those unnatural sounding Ceramic drivers or dynamic limited dome midrange /tweeters , Pistonic in the bass is a big advantage, but you will have a hard time beati .......
10: Here's one for ya..... (5.69)
Posted by Bob Rex on 2006-05-16, 16:39:58 (24.229.113.100)
I sold the Fourier speakers those many moons ago. And honestly, while they weren't what Petey wrote, they weren't that bad. We sold a good number of them. Although I did fry a midrange on them during .......
11: "Dark" is the.. (5.66)
Posted by mkuller on 2008-03-08, 18:35:21 (207.200.116.66)
...opposite of "light". To me it means a diminished upper midrange and high frequencies. "Warm" to me means a little more lower midrange than is neutral. A "tubey" sound, for example. The opposite of .......
12: Re: Wilson's challenge (5.62)
Posted by unclestu52 on 2006-03-23, 13:12:35 (63.16.98.250)
Look at Stereophile's test reports for Wilson. Most reviewed have their midrange phase inverted to the tweeter and woofer, at least according to their test results. Doing so will suck out the midrange .......
13: Here are my three..... (5.57)
Posted by Ozzy on 2012-09-13, 05:58:01 (152.178.50.16)
VAC PA 100/100 - tube amp that sounded like a SS amp, and not a very good one Silverline Sonata II - not a bad speaker, but with a thick, somewhat muddy midrange Meadowlard Shearwater HR - Steely soun .......
14: RE: Given that speakers need high efficiency - IE both high impedance and high sensitivity (5.52)
Posted by stellavox on 2018-02-02, 05:19:37 (24.94.48.171)
Continuing off (original) topic - Thanks for the report on the Pure Audio Project speakers. First heard them maybe two years ago at the Montreal show. Liked them immediately - especially considering t .......
15: RE: Off-axis and distortion (5.33)
Posted by Doug Schneider on 2018-03-10, 17:28:51 (174.113.100.67)
Hi, Because it's a coaxial design, you're going to get roughly the same thing up, down, left, right. I say "roughly" because the speaker is on a bit of an angle, so things might differ a tiny bit. But .......
16: Thanks and anyone else want to give this a shot? (5.32)
Posted by Frihed89 on 2008-03-08, 23:36:55 (87.53.108.41)
The reason I ask is that sometimes I hear tubes that sound warm in the midrange, but from the lower midrange on down the sound is like it's coming out of a deep deep cave. Is this black (= deep warmth .......
17: RE: Kudos to Art on the Altec Valencia restoration (5.29)
Posted by Peter Breuninger on 2013-04-23, 16:14:10 (71.175.4.33)
Dear Kloss, I surely understand your love of the classic horns, they have a midrange immediacy that is haunting. I, and perhaps it’s only me, hear a cuppiness in the 1200 Hz range in many of the older .......
18: RE: John Atkinson... (5.25)
Posted by FredericB on 2012-06-30, 10:33:16 (24.150.204.153)
"The 3/5 will make many CDs sound "pleasant" or at least tolerable." Although I agree with this comment isn't it paradoxal that the speaker was born as a recording monitor designed to flag any distort .......
19: Re: wrong question to ask perhaps (5.22)
Posted by cjfrbw on 2006-07-24, 12:52:06 (24.4.32.2)
I have been hearing live music a bit recently, jazz trios and quartets in a large room, big band in a large room, and a singing group in an medium sized greek style outdoor theatre. First, live music .......
20: RE: Audio reviewers aren't supposed to be investigative journalists - but this is annoying. (5.01)
Posted by Spendor Harbeth on 2009-07-23, 09:39:28 (70.95.249.62)
Fair enough reply John. ( I do like to keep you on your toes) I just honestly feel that the consumer for the SA-1 is not looking at PSB,EPOS, or similar. I confess to being VERY biased. I own 3 pairs .......
21: RE: False assumptions lead to false conclusions (4.97)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2017-11-08, 02:47:59 (71.218.3.216)
>> I am unclear here, as I thought, in response to your comments to Sue above, that the B&W speakers are underdamped in the critical midrange, which, you claim, explained her preference for the Meridi .......
22: RE: How do the Celestion SL6's hold up? (4.95)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2013-08-14, 14:08:39 (4.30.66.254)
>I would be very interested to know how you would rate them compared to >more modern designs, presumably not too badly if you still use them. Still mellow, that copper-dome tweeter not being sufficien .......
23: I have heard those... (4.94)
Posted by mkuller on 2012-07-23, 11:43:47 (99.62.230.174)
...double KLH 9s and a few pair of Quad 57s. Both speakers open a very transparent window on the midrange, the Quads almost better than anything available today. But... They both beam, are unacceptabl .......
24: The "often noted, never explained" SET sound . . . (4.89)
Posted by caspian@peak.org on 2011-03-22, 09:15:30 (66.178.144.81)
. . . is what it is. It measures how it measures, and its errors are of the euphonic sort that evoke positive emotional responses from many listeners. Combine a fair amount of second harmonic distorti .......
25: Really, though (4.88)
Posted by unclestu52 on 2009-03-08, 21:52:16 (63.16.46.150)
I read Stereophile's reviews with tablespoons of rock salt. Sometimes they point out anomalies but like to disguise what are failings in my book by printing what is seemingly glossy, golden descriptio .......
26: RE: OK, how's about this for a compromise? (4.85)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2013-04-08, 15:07:36 (173.77.100.54)
>The original poster would have been more accurate had he written: >"Although several of JA's measurements of the Silent Speaker II could be >seen as cause for concern or even alarm, the SSII's in-roo .......
27: RE: Awesome, it's how many audiophiles can masturbate on the head of a pin time! (4.84)
Posted by josh358 on 2011-06-19, 13:44:33 (64.252.117.71)
Seems to me 1 and 2 are often the same in the sense that to accurately reproduce a natural recording, you almost by definition have to reproduce the recording accurately -- and you can only get accura .......
28: RE: Harbeth Manufacturer's response to Stereophile (4.79)
Posted by theaudiohobby on 2008-10-13, 16:04:12 (90.209.108.14)
Thanks for the link. Those measurements certainly show the M40.1 to be a lot smoother in the upper midrange and lower treble than JA measurements would lead one to believe, the treble lift beyond ~4k .......
29: They don't sound rich to me (4.78)
Posted by Dave_K on 2021-10-21, 04:00:07 (71.232.142.235)
I usually assume "rich" means a strong upper bass region and/or lower midrange, similar to "full". I've heard the little MBLs a couple of times at shows, driven by MBL Corona electronics. Both times, .......
30: I can see why JA is so frustrated... (4.73)
Posted by jamesgarvin on 2010-04-20, 09:51:57 (74.215.224.21)
when people misrepresent what is actually written as the foundation for their critism. What RJR really wrote was that the Monitor Audio's midrange was NEARLY identical to the Dynaudio, that the Monito .......
31: Re: JA Genesis 5.2, It's a joke right??? (4.72)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2006-02-02, 10:45:41 (65.213.7.6)
> The "All Important Midrange" lifting a quote from Stereophile, is > clearly a stamped metal frame unit. Yes. Isn't what's important how that unit sounds and measures? Note, BTW, that the recess aro .......
32: RE: Really, though (4.66)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2009-03-09, 05:02:29 (96.224.177.82)
>in one speaker test report, written none other than JA, he points out that >that the "tweeter blends smoothly to the inverted midrange driver". Now in >my book, it is a crime to have a midrange drive .......
33: AR stuff (4.65)
Posted by Ross on 2005-04-07, 11:53:50 (216.206.81.10)
The AR-2 was designed as a 2way, and the addition of the tweeter from the 3 made it a 3way, but not in the sense you imply. The crossover from the woofer to the tweeter/midrange was unchanged, and the .......
34: AR stuff (4.51)
Posted by Ross on 2005-04-07, 11:53:50 (216.206.81.10)
The AR-2 was designed as a 2way, and the addition of the tweeter from the 3 made it a 3way, but not in the sense you imply. The crossover from the woofer to the tweeter/midrange was unchanged, and the .......
35: RE: suck-out in the midrange? nt (4.51)
Posted by RGA on 2016-09-19, 20:05:08 (115.160.152.66)
Well done. Well done. :) .......
36: suck-out in the midrange? nt (4.49)
Posted by Jim Austin on 2016-09-18, 07:01:38 (160.39.32.96)
. .......
37: distortion (4.45)
Posted by Tom Brennan on 2006-04-08, 13:45:27 (12.211.55.158)
Because of lower excursions needed vented systems have lower distortion than sealed. Some people are sensitive to the lower distortion of vented and some are sensitive to the better transients of seal .......
38: RE: Not Me! (4.39)
Posted by kerr on 2008-12-30, 12:07:52 (209.43.1.25)
>"then they're simply NOT a properly designed speaker Yeah, that's been my take on single driver speakers. I've listened to somewhere in the vicinity of 15 in various iterations and they've all exhibi .......
39: Well, for ME, dark sounding means the frequency balance... (4.29)
Posted by Steve Parry on 2008-03-08, 07:26:39 (75.31.51.26)
...is tipped toward the bass, whereas warm sounding means tipped to the low midrange. I would say the opposite of dark is bright, white, or light sounding, and the opposite of warm sounding is of cour .......
40: Can't remember their name - went out of business (4.14)
Posted by Mike in NJ on 2015-03-21, 07:25:38 (69.125.163.186)
They had a trapezoid shape, with a midrange and treble module on top...It was around 15 years ago...??? .......
41: Works for me, too (4.12)
Posted by E-Stat on 2008-11-25, 18:51:56 (206.255.204.18)
along with the fast forward. You missed Winer's out of control eyebrows and some loose upper midrange and low end. rw .......
42: "Close but not the originals" (4.08)
Posted by Brian H P on 2017-08-15, 14:41:22 (69.59.200.72)
Well, the SEAS A26 kit, available from Madisound, is about as close a clone as you can get, very similar in driver complement, minimalist crossover, aperiodic cabinet alignment, and measured/audible p .......
43: Generally speaking, the "crossover catastrophe" involves the midrange in a three-way system. nt (4.07)
Posted by clarkjohnsen on 2006-05-15, 08:03:07 (208.58.2.83)
x .......
44: RE: About Time Seeing a Truthful Review.. (4.07)
Posted by dtyoshih on 2007-06-27, 12:56:16 (161.149.63.107)
Well....are you going to tell us which speaker had the forced midrange and which reviewer gave it a glowing review??? .......
45: RE: Agree completely (4.07)
Posted by Tony Lauck on 2013-04-25, 10:18:14 (65.19.76.104)
I used objective means for the bass, but subjective means for the midrange and highs. .......
46: Re: Actually, sighted listening appears to be more sensitive... (4.07)
Posted by Pat D on 2004-12-02, 15:23:14 (69.195.197.239)
"Until there is a "validation test" for DBTs using music as a program which determines their sensitivity - at what level various audible differences can be identified to a statistically significant de .......
47: RE: C'mon, it's more than just myself and Elizabeth (4.06)
Posted by RGA on 2014-02-21, 21:10:08 (202.4.201.51)
Show me how. So far the ole "I have a woofer thiiiiiiiiis big" Has not worked to well. My friend commenting on tweeters usually meets with a slap in his midrange. .......
48: RE: Usually... (4.04)
Posted by A.Wayne on 2017-03-25, 06:54:31 (99.166.174.206)
Strange chart , no midbass ! Midrange at 240 hz ! Subbass at @60 hz .... Uhhh Huh ... .......
49: RE: Huh (4.04)
Posted by josh358 on 2011-06-20, 09:06:49 (64.252.117.71)
I've heard good things about the Nolas, as well as the 3.7's, which I haven't heard yet either. Unfortunately, there are pluses and minuses to any approach. The 3.7's may go down to 45 Hz, where it's .......
50: RE: perfect pitch (4.04)
Posted by RGA on 2011-05-31, 21:24:58 (207.216.51.161)
Yeah they're kind of funky looking aren't they. Certainly will require some time to position and they seem to like being way away from everything. On the flip side they do have a futuristic kind of lo .......
51: RE: How to tame the shouty, strident upper midrange associated with Lowther drivers (4.01)
Posted by sk on 2012-12-21, 13:01:30 (76.24.44.61)
Sounds like the Beauhorn phase-plug design........one of my favorite speakers of all time! .......
52: RE: Oh ye of little faith... (4.00)
Posted by J. Phelan on 2017-11-04, 14:30:43 (32.215.21.216)
The Giya's use a dome midrange -but so do (many) horns. Even ATC (a 'waveguide') uses a dome. I don't know if this makes them 'pistonic', but it appears to... .......
53: Re: Wilson's challenge (3.98)
Posted by Ozzie on 2006-03-23, 19:44:13 (198.24.6.135)
"Most reviewed have their midrange phase inverted to the tweeter and woofer, at least according to their test results." That sounds like a properly executed second order crossover design to me. ::: TO .......
54: RE: What you didn't mention, Bruce... (3.97)
Posted by Spendor Harbeth on 2009-10-15, 07:34:58 (210.82.101.156)
...but no matter what, do NOT call me Spendor "Midrange Nut" Harbeth! .......
55: Yup, much better when HP talked about chocolatey midrange and the astrological signs of his reviewers. (3.93)
Posted by Enophile on 2014-03-24, 17:53:49 (162.17.93.34)
If I go the rest of my life without a 'wear a diaper' reference like I have seen used for some amplifier reviews, I'll be just fine. .......
56: RE: remember Corey Greenberg? (3.93)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2007-08-07, 21:41:35 (209.97.232.14)
First of all, thanks for correcting the spelling of Corey's last name. between the tweeter and woofers. >> I beg to differ. This just allows the tweeter to let you accurately hear what your electroni .......
57: "chocolatey midrange" (3.93)
Posted by oldmkvi on 2014-03-25, 06:37:00 (108.220.54.45)
Check out "The Posh Nosh" on you tube- Takes descriptive prose to a new level! "Notes of leather and cotton…." .......
58: RE: If the test assumption is clearly wrong, then...? (3.92)
Posted by Dave_K on 2015-06-26, 12:07:22 (50.164.204.218)
When listening to panels and other open baffle speakers in the near field, the bass balance is a variable of distance. With big panels, it's less so, because the smaller the panel, the greater the aff .......
59: RE: Here's a critic not impressed with some audiophile speakers! (3.91)
Posted by Pat D on 2010-10-01, 18:29:38 (99.251.236.4)
"I think that if I had the room to put together an ideal speaker assembly, it would have a true ribbon tweeter, Tympani bass panels, and an electrostatic midrange." We can always dream! .......
60: Funny how (3.90)
Posted by unclestu on 2013-09-05, 20:20:08 (74.87.55.18)
Stereophiles' impulse test measurements show almost all Wilsons to have the midrange inverted in polarity to the tweeter. That is the most annoying aspect of Wilson's sound: Acuracy is sacrificed for .......
61: I pretty much agree, but I think it can be presented even more simply (3.90)
Posted by John Marks on 2009-04-16, 12:38:01 (72.82.27.89)
Dear Kal, I don't really object to anything you say, but, my personal calibration is slightly different. Here's how I divvy up the frequency spectrum. Imagine sitting down at a full-sized piano keyboa .......
62: Bass note decay timing is bass "speed" (3.88)
Posted by Richard BassNut Greene on 2006-07-27, 09:19:41 (209.104.139.41)
The bass under 50Hz. from my satellite speakers with their 5.5" "bass" cones is so "fast" ... I can't even hear it! The attack of most bass notes is played by the midrange speaker or bass/midrange sp .......
63: RE: BorderPatrol D/A Converter (3.88)
Posted by TubeDriver on 2018-08-23, 13:17:46 (173.73.68.201)
While the analogue output stage has a big impact on sonics, I think chips have a sonic character of their own. R2R DAC chips were largely abandoned due to cost and difficulty of manufacturing, not bec .......
64: RE: KEF 104aB and KEF 105 (3.86)
Posted by Ole Lund Christensen on 2010-07-09, 09:12:47 (91.9.187.21)
The large tweeter in 105 was later replaced by a smaller tweeter in 105/4 and yes the extreme high frequency dispersion was limited in the original 105. But you could turn the tweeter/midrange box and .......
65: Although responding to you is probably a waste of time (3.85)
Posted by John Marks on 2013-11-27, 13:27:50 (100.40.104.66)
One, you have seized upon two sentences in a review that took up just about an entire column (IIRC, the sidebar was related but not limited to the ESP CG). Two, you have disregarded context--totally. .......
66: RE: Refreshing Candor From One of Stereophile's Finest. (3.84)
Posted by josh358 on 2010-10-22, 15:40:01 (64.252.143.248)
Yah, but the Quad was introduced 53 years ago! It owes its classic status to its role in audio history, hence the "classic." Which being said, it's pretty amazing that, after all these years, its midr .......
67: I'd like to see the micro categorization of loudspeakers carried to the logical extrmem (3.84)
Posted by keith_d on 2010-12-22, 23:55:05 (69.72.52.6)
Book Matched Sapele Veneer Three-Way Floorstander With Ribbon Tweeter and Ceramic Coated Midrange Loudspeaker of the Year.... [Uh, "extreme."] .......
68: Just so (3.83)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2005-04-08, 07:13:09 (207.91.86.2)
My point was that, in a "true" 3-way speaker, the midrange driver handles the mid range, i.e. from 400-500 Hz up to, say, 2Khz. Unfortunately, the state of the art at the time of AR's "classic" design .......
69: RE: Reviewer's systems...A call for "varied" reference systems (3.78)
Posted by the old school on 2013-05-17, 22:46:38 (76.126.197.238)
You are wrong. Tubes are VASTLY superior in many measurements: especially in the crucial midrange and in meaningful distortion. .......
70: RE: Art Dudley (3.78)
Posted by TubeDriver on 2012-07-21, 12:15:24 (108.48.115.56)
A's are the ones you want, C's are listenable but not magic and don't waste your time with E's. On a somewhat related note, I think the Pioneer PIM-16s have an equal amount of presence and magic as t .......
71: Re: Easy to listen speakers???? (3.77)
Posted by jdouglas51 on 2006-06-13, 14:51:42 (207.200.116.196)
the ESP's are balanced, flat, top to bottom.....laid back because they dont have that cranked forward midrange that most call detail, only to be driven slowly mad afyer extended listening. ::: TOPIC:: .......
72: "the implication that an MQA'd release must inevitably be preferable to the hi-res original" (3.76)
Posted by Krav Maga on 2018-10-10, 19:46:07 (24.243.226.38)
Well, it's obvious that JVS is one of MQA's biggest fanboys. I'm sure you'll love the Stereophile RMAF Show Report article titled "RMAF: Starting the Day with MQA". (Link below) In the "RMAF: Startin .......
73: studio setup (3.76)
Posted by Bill Way on 2016-08-07, 10:38:07 (108.54.110.65)
The studio where I used to assist had a common monitor setup: a pair of Yamaha NS-10Ms for most day-to-day work, a pair of big horns (JBL/Urei) built into the walls, and some little midrange-only c .......
74: With decided bias on my part, I agree (3.73)
Posted by E-Stat on 2004-11-11, 15:00:27 (67.96.197.225)
I've learned so much about music and listening from knowing this man for over twenty five years. It took me twenty years to finally "get" what he said long ago about getting the midrange right. rw ::: .......
75: Rogers LS3/5A and beyond (3.73)
Posted by geoffkait on 2013-08-31, 09:05:14 (174.236.230.245)
Rogers whilst having a great midrange and treble are quite poor at dynamics and bass. All depends on what you can't live without. If you must have powerful bass and dynamics, one must look elsewhere. .......
76: RE: Thanks for reminding me... (3.71)
Posted by Beetlemania on 2018-03-07, 21:42:43 (73.20.49.228)
In the KEF I can see the tilt you mean from the upper midrange up but it's hard to characterize the overall bass with that dip. Your comment about the Thiel is ironic given Wes Phillips' subjective op .......
77: You mean (3.71)
Posted by E-Stat on 2007-06-28, 10:31:31 (206.255.203.68)
like HP's hating the exotic Hill Plasmatronics speaker? While it was years ago, I still remember his humorous description of its midrange "honking": "My heart goes where the wild goose goes" Like hi .......
78: RE: Very well (3.70)
Posted by E-Stat on 2017-01-27, 10:46:49 (206.255.198.169)
BTW, it's not a sophomore design issue -- it's a limitation of the driver type. What is sophomoric is employing a driver in a range not suited for its use. BTW, even in three-ways the problem stil .......
79: RE: Can't speak for the drivers alone, but... (3.67)
Posted by Bill the K on 2021-09-29, 21:29:18 (223.227.61.106)
I am yet to listen to Bose 901 at length but given such a dip of midrange I am afraid eight of those drivers would not compensate for it. Maybe the hole is not in the middle but reflected all over. Ho .......
80: to be precise (3.67)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2004-12-30, 08:46:53 (207.91.86.2)
the . . . um . . . focus is rather shallow. The upper woofer and midrange appear to be in focus. The lower woofer and top of the cabinet are not. A greater depth of field would have brought the whole .......
81: It's the palpability (3.67)
Posted by DAP on 2013-09-27, 07:59:35 (199.198.223.106)
Can there be a word more used by reviewers than "palpability"? It does seem on occasion to substitute for a more nuanced description of sound. TAS: "Lack of enclosure vibration contributes to palpab .......
82: Since you're 40 dB down at 10 kHz. yourself... (3.66)
Posted by Dave Pogue on 2017-03-22, 05:57:48 (69.243.11.225)
... what difference does THAT make to you? 'Course that's way better than I can do at 87, but then I couldn't care less what a reviewer's hearing is, since the midrange is pretty much all that matters .......
83: RE: You get what the designer intended - analogy to cars (3.65)
Posted by josh358 on 2010-11-19, 08:40:49 (64.148.11.93)
It isn't even easy to say for sure that one of the two has to be more accurate, because they may not be the best for a given room, or a certain type of music. For example, in the case of two channel s .......
84: How to tame the shouty, strident upper midrange associated with Lowther drivers (3.65)
Posted by Kloss on 2012-12-21, 09:03:00 (50.50.176.185)
A bit of lose wool or cotton ball pulled and placed lightly behind whizzer, can tame the peak a bit as can changing toe in so ones listening slightly off axis. .......
85: My favorite (3.62)
Posted by E-Stat on 2017-04-21, 06:49:03 (206.255.198.169)
was a funny reference found in HP's review of the Hill Plasmatronic. While he liked the tweeter, he found the midrange honky sounding. It was something to the effect of "the obnoxious honking ( My He .......
86: Atkinson is lost. (3.62)
Posted by bjh on 2013-04-25, 07:42:28 (67.211.125.178)
He has taken this no "absolute sound" idea, which seems a fair way to summarize it IMO, as a launching pad into the ridiculous. So since the idea of comparing a product, e.g. a speaker system, to how .......
87: RE:"ESL's dont measure for crap , only the bad ones" (3.60)
Posted by Dave_K on 2016-12-19, 06:51:16 (73.249.178.108)
I've auditioned the modern Quad ESLs a couple of times and to me they sound just like they measure, with a dished out midrange and mid-bass hump. They have great clarity, but they're not what I would .......
88: RE: Peter Qvortrup was saying this 2 decades ago. (3.57)
Posted by the old school on 2013-05-05, 09:44:40 (76.126.197.238)
I'll go with Stereophile's quoted prices as they have an extended track record for accuracy. Nor do measurements of all other speakers show the horrible frequency response of Art's Es, driven by his .......
89: channels reversed?? that would explain the worse performance right there... (3.57)
Posted by Tom Schuman on 2014-04-18, 23:34:55 (217.224.70.111)
If the Magico room really had the channels reversed, no wonder you preferred just about any room to that one.....LOL Also the smaller speaker's strength in the midrange, with no attempt to do low bass .......
90: RE: RJR's review of Linn Majik in Stereophile (3.54)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2009-08-23, 08:52:21 (64.208.192.131)
>Also how do we measure this foot tapping quality? Wonder if JA saw any >quibble in the graphs which would indicate a better than usual rhythmic >reproduction by the Linn. In general, you are talking .......
91: RE: Thanks (3.54)
Posted by Ozzy on 2019-05-28, 08:52:48 (160.84.253.236)
If you have the room for them, get a pair of Klipschorns. Replace the xovers with something from Volti Audio, replace the midrange compression driver with the A55G. Then sit back with a smug smile whi .......
92: soundstage gave a positive review to Geoff's Clever Little Clock :-) (3.54)
Posted by DAP on 2022-06-15, 12:45:05 (76.10.131.117)
The review is listed in the "Reviews and Awards" page of the Machina Dynamica web site, machinadynamica.com/machina7.htm While the link is a dead link, I found this quote from the article online: "Aft .......
93: 'salty' Klipsch fans. Yup. (3.53)
Posted by mhardy6647 on 2019-08-15, 05:16:16 (71.192.138.56)
Having lived with a pair of Cornies (umm, I mean, Cornwalls ) for a decade -- yeah, I've noticed that, too. They were big, brash, loud, and crude. Really good with some recordings; really horrible wi .......
94: RE: Harbeths too? (3.53)
Posted by mark.korda@myfairpoint.net on 2017-08-25, 10:38:25 (67.253.54.149)
Hi, Jim Austin, thanks for writing back. I had to re-read your article a few times. You could not of given the Devore speakers any better praise. There beautiful and I would love to own a pair. What .......
95: Good poast PAt...a quick thought for you.. (3.53)
Posted by SamTubes on 2004-08-22, 18:47:21 (204.97.214.168)
A lot of folk LOVE a single driver speaker and will listen to NOTHING else...you know: one with a LOUSY frequency resposne, and a midrange hump. In other words, I agree with you that a flat response m .......
96: Here's an example of what I'm talking about (3.52)
Posted by Dave Kingsland on 2005-08-29, 06:52:36 (24.147.152.206)
Recently, inmate Christine Tham posted in-room frequency response measurements. Her speakers are B&W CDM-7NT and her room is untreated. B&W normally designs for a fairly flat anechoic response. You ca .......
97: Srajan and Jules Coleman distinguish themselves... (3.52)
Posted by LarryB on 2005-07-26, 11:20:37 (206.231.80.2)
by providing insight into the products they review which goes far beyond the typical "this preamp has cyrstalline highs and melodious midrange." It is primarily for that reason that I read their artic .......
98: Re: Simple...... (3.52)
Posted by Alex Peychev on 2006-07-25, 21:34:14 (24.6.74.243)
Larry, I am not generalizing. It is simply my opinion. I can hear Neodymium magnets from 100 miles. :) There is a certain glare in the upper midrange that can not be mistaken. It hurts my ears. If you .......
99: RE: Let me try to make you happier, or, at least, less annoyed... (3.52)
Posted by the old school on 2013-05-07, 16:57:11 (76.126.197.238)
I have not heard the de Capoi, but JA's measurements of it indicated that it had 3 significant glitches in its impedance traces between 400Hz and 900 Hz that corresponded to three midrange peaks. AD n .......
100: True story except... (3.50)
Posted by suekraft on 2018-08-23, 09:56:11 (184.59.200.194)
The guy was hanging rocks from the underside of his Krell amplifier and it was his midrange driver that was blown. I could hear it vibrating and distorting from where I was seated across the room, but .......
101: Great idea... (3.49)
Posted by mkuller on 2013-04-23, 14:01:01 (99.62.230.174)
...audio reviews for the aging Baby boomers and the hearing impaired. "There is a suckout in the upper midrange coincidentally near the same frequencies as my wife's voice." Nostalgia columns of vinta .......
102: RE: I don't think Atkinson gets it....agreed (3.49)
Posted by dbphd on 2017-11-03, 11:39:23 (68.6.88.115)
This thread has in many ways been enlightening for me, especially the recounting of early history, but it has also sullied two of my audio icons, John Atkinson and Charlie Rose. Really Charles, I woul .......
103: RE: Nasality / Rogers LS3/5A (3.47)
Posted by Krav Maga on 2022-09-21, 19:21:49 (24.162.126.158)
Loudspeaker grills and frames can alter a speaker's frequency response, therefore, they could tame or exacerbate nasality, depending on the loudspeaker. IIRC from past reviews the LS3/5A is known to h .......
104: Dumb question: On those speakers, what did the Moon amp do to reveal "more extended bass?" (3.46)
Posted by Enophile on 2012-05-20, 14:28:10 (108.94.51.158)
That was a little perplexing. Did the way the Moon handled the tweeters and mid appear to extend the bass from the amplified woofer, or do you think the Moon allowed the bottom of the midrange to bett .......
105: Re: Speakers better now...HMMMM? (3.45)
Posted by J-PMatt@Comcast.Net on 2004-12-19, 13:33:23 (70.104.69.75)
"Not everyone will agree with this as still the two best sounding speakers for midrange accuracy were born a long long time ago. Those being the Quad ESL 57 and the STAX ELS F81" I think it would be a .......
106: RE: Refreshing Candor From One of Stereophile's Finest. (3.45)
Posted by josh358 on 2010-10-22, 16:05:46 (64.252.143.248)
If it were me, I'd put those 1-D bass panels on everything. I've never heard anything else with quite that combination of midbass realism and slam. I sometimes think that if I had the room, I'd combin .......
107: Looks like some crossover phase error (3.45)
Posted by caspian@peak.org on 2011-11-24, 14:33:26 (66.178.144.49)
I will read the article soon, but just looking at that graph I'm guessing that this is a 3-way speaker with crosspoints around 350 and 2500 Hz? These are not the deep reverse nulls you see with a prop .......
108: Tame the "shout"? (3.44)
Posted by E-Stat on 2013-04-19, 15:49:45 (206.255.212.225)
Why accept *any* honkiness? I gather midrange neutrality isn't important to you. ...and musical involvement that few other speakers can duplicate "Few can duplicate?" To duplicate exactly what? .......
109: Re: Sillier me (3.43)
Posted by regmac on 2005-07-22, 06:38:26 (64.12.116.7)
Hi Tom: By "accurate" do you mean a flat frequency response, among other things? If so, it's instructive to note that J. Gordon Holt delighted in proving to people that a FFR was not what they preferr .......
110: Re: Vandy Quattro: When will we see an in-depth review??? (3.43)
Posted by unclestu52 on 2005-09-27, 03:00:44 (63.16.86.191)
It's a very nice sounding speaker, and heralds a 'new' Vandersteen sound: significantly more open top end and a very detailed midrange. Apparently Richard has streamlined the process of matching drive .......
111: I've never written this publically, but... (3.43)
Posted by Jim Austin on 2012-10-01, 09:43:57 (74.65.133.42)
...I have at times relied for my aural assessments on the opinion of Bilbo, my Boston Terrier. he prefers tubes, probably for their warm midrange (and possibly their actual warmth). I haven't verifie .......
112: JA Genesis 5.2, It's a joke right??? (3.42)
Posted by loony on 2006-02-02, 09:57:25 (68.250.41.137)
I reference your latest review of the 5.2 Loudspeaker from Genesis Advanced Technologies. Look close: I have been designing, building, and modifying speakers since the early 70's. Look at the picture .......
113: Without a perfect simulation, it's all 'how do you take your coffee?' (3.42)
Posted by Gag Halfrunt on 2013-04-30, 10:27:54 (80.2.121.65)
No system I have ever heard has been realistic enough to be able to pass the 'live/recorded' test. By that, I mean if I walked into a room with someone at a piano standing beside a stereo, I'd always .......
114: Now you talking about something different... (3.41)
Posted by jamesgarvin on 2009-10-21, 14:11:20 (74.215.224.21)
Now you are talking about the language of subjective reviewing, and describing what one hears. A midrange may be liquid to one person, and muffled to another. One tweeter may be bright to one, detaile .......
115: RE: Have you heard it? (3.41)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2013-11-25, 15:51:06 (173.52.248.27)
> it would have been a lot simpler if KEF just followed "normal" / >"typical" convention and wired the woofer in polarity and the tweeter out >of polarity. From the speakers I have measured, I don't .......
116: sorry you're so sensitve (3.41)
Posted by truthseekerprime on 2007-05-16, 13:29:20 (69.200.83.8)
" You lose! (You, again.) You didn't even have the odds right. And do you suppose the good professor conducts "A/B tests" on components using tones? Good God, man!" I lose, huh? You're really not doin .......
117: i went and heard CVs in the 70s (3.38)
Posted by hifitommy on 2013-03-24, 11:38:18 (142.129.112.55)
i went into the store and had the salesguy put n some CVs, and we talked. within 1/2 hour, i had a headache. they were all boom and tiz. the midrange where most music lives just wasn't there. then at .......
118: RE: Discombobularity (3.36)
Posted by 6bq5 on 2023-04-17, 10:20:09 (52.119.121.37)
Mark, Art Dudley was an incredible person, and your question must have piqued his interest- There is also another aspect to this story - Harvey was quite a character! His ability to wax rhapsodically, .......
119: RE: can you clarify? (3.36)
Posted by Dave Pogue on 2007-06-03, 16:22:34 (69.138.175.19)
We're going over old ground here. Most speakers will not reveal audible polarity diferences largely because (1) they are not polarity coherent and/or (2) they have complex crossovers. For instance, to .......
120: Sounds great... (3.34)
Posted by robert young on 2006-04-18, 11:19:09 (207.88.135.146)
but may not measure great! Funny thing how with all the measurements and tests we've got, we can't seem to be able to capture system synergy or pleasure as a number... I think Sonus faber did an amazi .......
121: no highs, no lows... (3.34)
Posted by Tom Schuman on 2006-02-13, 01:17:43 (85.181.31.217)
...nothing wrong with that. the fact that they sell so well is just testament that people don't care about highs and lows, they care about music, which exists mostly in the midrange anyway. the high e .......
122: RE: Very well (3.32)
Posted by Doug Schneider on 2017-01-27, 10:43:02 (70.31.73.111)
Hello, You asked for an example of where a distortion measurement matters -- and I gave it to you. And it's not a matter of simply overdriving, since it happens at fairly low output levels. BTW, it's .......
123: RE: Measurements vs. Reviewers (3.32)
Posted by Dave_K on 2015-08-20, 05:10:28 (50.164.204.218)
Hypothetically, if I auditioned these W-B Square One speakers and liked them, and then I saw the measurements, I would want to go back for another round of listening with different source material cho .......
124: RE: Over on the goN is a question: Why is there no Stereophile review of Magnepan 3.7? (3.32)
Posted by sailor321 on 2011-07-26, 09:30:40 (209.124.166.34)
I think it is some marketing ploy that does not make since. Why not toot your horn if there is a major design change. It was suppose to be a big secret about the super tweeter on the 1.7 and that got .......
125: Harmonic Tech Cyberlight Interconects (3.31)
Posted by vettracer on 2006-01-30, 19:00:07 (24.94.22.102)
No sane person should audition this product. It sounds like crap. Yes, I have heard it and it sounds like crap, and Fremer is insane. There I said it. Look at it this way, They cramed an entire outpu .......
126: RE: I don't get it. (3.29)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2017-03-13, 08:02:35 (207.66.194.226)
>How could that be the case for a sealed speaker enclosure? A sealed speaker is still a tuned resonance system. Note the difference when you try to move your speaker's cone with the terminals floating .......
127: RE: Harry's take was a bit different (3.29)
Posted by regmac on 2019-12-09, 07:36:43 (172.78.31.94)
"...-its audible flaws were overlooked (highly colored bass, overly romantic midrange colorations, and a drooping top octave). Did I forget to mention the heat it generated and the number of tubes tha .......
128: Read this. (3.29)
Posted by Rick W on 2009-10-25, 14:54:53 (66.108.29.102)
The last paragraph of JA's measurement section of that Tetra review. "While Paul Bolin apparently managed to work around this speaker's limitations to some extent, its disappointing measured performan .......
129: DCS's historical development achievements (3.28)
Posted by Sordidman on 2013-06-03, 15:16:03 (108.169.2.66)
have been super significant.... And from the Purcell to Puccini, - not exactly what would match up well with many folks' desire to "warm up" the sound. My experience with comparing my Arcam's DCS tech .......
130: You're the man (3.28)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2005-04-07, 06:13:58 (207.91.86.2)
My recollection is refreshed. But you agree with my basic point that the AR-2 and its descendants were all designed fundamentally as 2-way speakers, regardless of whether they had 2 or 3 drivers, corr .......
131: You're the man (3.27)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2005-04-07, 06:13:58 (207.91.86.2)
My recollection is refreshed. But you agree with my basic point that the AR-2 and its descendants were all designed fundamentally as 2-way speakers, regardless of whether they had 2 or 3 drivers, corr .......
132: This only points out the necessity of long term listening... (3.27)
Posted by mkuller on 2009-08-18, 10:17:30 (207.200.116.66)
...before describing the sound of a product - or making a purchasing decision. Side-by-side comparisons and first impressions are pretty worthless unless there are gross frequency response problems wi .......
133: RE: Hey, SpenHar! (3.26)
Posted by Bill the K on 2009-12-13, 07:04:00 (61.17.222.97)
Thats a great name for a new line of speakers. SpenHar Monitor 5.A nice ring to it.The very name sounds like a solid midrange and good lows.A warm sound but a little harsh at high frequencies.The Moni .......
134: Lyrita CDs (3.25)
Posted by richard@batnet.com on 2008-01-05, 01:10:01 (67.150.245.19)
Lyrita reissues: I’m wondering if any have heard the recent Lyrita CDs. Although better than the original remastering done in the 90s, I find them somewhat disappointing - too “digital” sounding and l .......
135: measuring speaker distortion (3.25)
Posted by awsmone on 2006-04-06, 19:37:32 (165.118.1.50)
I think I have seen some Speaker distortion measurements from Paul Miller, in HiFi Choice, and occassionally HiFi News from memory. They were quite interesting The one I definitely remember being meas .......
136: RE: Stereophile review of Boulder amps (3.25)
Posted by regmac on 2007-11-27, 08:14:50 (64.12.116.141)
“I tend to agree with the Boulder view. What do you think?” I think you’re correct. Rich Maez got it about right when he said, “Somewhere, someone shot the messenger.” That said, Stereophile is to be .......
137: "I can't see that HP and other reviewers had much to do with it." (3.25)
Posted by E-Stat on 2011-03-03, 15:43:26 (206.255.211.134)
Correct. HP reviewed in in issue 8 and found its upper midrange peak unbearable, despite being non-boxy sounding and having good imaging. Computer analysis can as quickly create problems when you make .......
138: RE: Peter Qvortrup was saying this 2 decades ago. (3.24)
Posted by the old school on 2013-05-11, 11:19:57 (76.126.197.238)
You are wrong: JA DID measure AD's AN Es as AD positioned them in corners. Plus, the five times I have heard the Es, they sounded much like I would have predicted from JA's measurements: boomy bass, a .......
139: RE: KEF Versus KEF - Product of the year to a non-existent product? (3.24)
Posted by RGA on 2013-12-02, 20:32:19 (115.160.152.66)
I think I understand what you're saying with the LS-3/5a and Kef LS50. I also think you've zeroed in on my reservations. You may actually like the AX Two over the more expensive Audio Notes. It was d .......
140: I think you have to consider all the trades (3.24)
Posted by josh358 on 2013-03-24, 21:11:20 (107.211.82.25)
When a manufacturer makes a speaker in the $1-$3K range, he can't afford to do everything he'd like. If he builds a big cabinet and puts a big woofer in it, that means using a cheaper midrange driver, .......
141: You know they r going to hunt u down don't u (3.23)
Posted by awsmone on 2006-04-11, 07:59:00 (203.59.186.82)
You cannot hide, the trolls will find you where ever u hide, no matter how far u run But seriously I find ur points very interesting As I listen to my SS amp, I wonder: is this actually more like the .......
142: RE: The Longest Review Ever (Ayre / Wilson Audio) (3.23)
Posted by aehaas on 2010-06-30, 14:25:02 (71.101.116.58)
Another week has passed. The lows are deeper, lower and crisper. If you do not like a lot of bass you will want to pass on my system. It will knock you off your sox. The highs I will describe as highe .......
143: Three questions, well, actually four (3.21)
Posted by KlausR. on 2007-05-12, 21:43:54 (83.84.181.88)
In his AES paper on midrange phase distortion Lipshitz cites an Audio Amateur article (Muller, TAA vol. 11, p.64 (1980 Jan.)) where the results of that two-part DBT (test tone + musical excerpts) were .......
144: NYC Show Impressions (3.21)
Posted by Dave Garretson on 2007-05-12, 11:12:29 (24.225.245.221)
This was my first hi-end show & quite a revelation. It's good to see 2-channel audio alive and well in a dedicated show. But I was disappointed by the sound in many rooms. I'm sure in some cases this .......
145: You lose the spatial effects with... (3.20)
Posted by mkuller on 2005-01-31, 10:09:36 (152.163.100.7)
...amplified music. The absolute sound is defined as "live, unamplified music occuring in a real space". As you pointed out: >I would actually argue that an electric combo imposes its sound on the hal .......
146: THose 'spots' are folks who have a particular bias (away from SOTA) (3.20)
Posted by Smelly_Socks on 2016-08-01, 13:56:43 (107.77.83.129)
So four spots... First clarity nuts like me. I will give up other perfections to have perfect clarity at my price point Second, Bass nuts. Folks who want to rumble their guts at all times.. Third mid .......
147: RE: How do you tell the difference (3.19)
Posted by regmac on 2013-12-13, 08:12:57 (192.182.48.85)
"I know of someone that got the idea that people *want* distortion so he put a knob on his preamp so you could just dial it in. Pretty sure he never sold more than one of two of them." Still, I recall .......
148: ??? for JA re vertical measurement axis in speaker tests (3.19)
Posted by caspian@peak.org on 2009-11-09, 20:28:00 (66.178.144.136)
Hi, John: I notice that when you test speakers for quasi-anechoic on-axis frequency response and step response, you always (for consistency's sake, I assume) place the mic on the tweeter axis. But, fo .......
149: RE: A little harsh, but yes. (3.17)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2019-07-31, 10:31:25 (24.145.117.29)
Other than horrible-sounding Klipschorns driven by horrible-sounding 1970s solid state electronics, the only horns I've heard were Avantegardes (Duos, I think) driven by an all-BAT tube system playing .......
150: RE: You are chasing ghosts (3.16)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2009-03-13, 22:56:15 (209.97.232.111)
Things like the Quads (any of them) tend to be cult favorites. The reason is that despite all of their weaknesses, they do at least one thing superbly well. In the case of the Quads, it is a special m .......
151: Monster cable (3.16)
Posted by unclestu52 on 2006-05-15, 22:15:12 (63.16.89.59)
of all people, makes a test kit with a dB meter and a test CD with impulse test tracks, set at tweeter, midrange and woofer levels. Play the disc and measure the volume. Since the disc had reversed an .......
152: Re: Bruce from DC and AR Speakers... (3.15)
Posted by Ross on 2005-04-06, 11:26:36 (216.206.81.10)
Bruce, The AR-2 was the 2way speaker you were refering to. The AR 2a was the "2" with the addition of the dome tweeter from the "3". The 2ax used the tweeter from the "4" as a midrange along with the .......
153: You're on to something........... (3.15)
Posted by J-PMatt@Comcast.Net on 2006-02-15, 19:12:19 (68.45.82.11)
Dr. Bose knows that humans are most senstive to what we consider the "midrange". By emphasizing that, he get's the novice to take notice. Along with the best marketing for an audio product I've ever s .......
154: RE: Iconic, but limited... (3.15)
Posted by regmac on 2014-01-31, 06:56:31 (192.182.49.106)
Hi John: Inasmuch as Quads don't play very loud, have limited bass, portray performers in miniature, don't "disappear" or image especially well, and are decidedly unattractive (cosmetically speaking), .......
155: Exactly, but... (3.14)
Posted by SalD on 2006-04-30, 11:40:38 (67.83.205.202)
...that's what reviewers usually mean when they use the term. I've never seen the word "musical" attached to any component that is in any way analytical or otherwise revealing. Sometimes live music do .......
156: Hmmmmmm.....I read JA's review (3.14)
Posted by Ross on 2016-12-13, 20:04:27 (172.9.116.164)
And it is largely positive. He states that the lack of HF extension was a problem for him, but he praised LF extension, midrange and low treble clarity, dynamics and scale. He noted a lack of distort .......
157: Re: LOL! (3.13)
Posted by theaudiohobby on 2005-11-04, 11:24:29 (194.203.201.98)
That great that they are still making them new, I have a pair that is fully refurbished, and one late model, They have them on 16" inch stands, which cleans up the bottom end, and also makes integrati .......
158: RE: R. Harley Overture Visits & Conflicts of Interest (3.13)
Posted by Spendor Harbeth on 2009-08-12, 10:00:28 (70.95.249.62)
Yes, often the sky opens up, the heavens appear, and the reviewer is bathed in golden velvet...every few months!!!!!!!!!!! Fremer himself refers to "king making" in his AVguide post. Read it. But in a .......
159: Re: The measurements are great, but... (3.13)
Posted by Pat D on 2006-04-11, 05:53:35 (69.195.219.94)
"the subpar midrange dispersion." Which shows up in the measurements! I also see peaks at 4 and 9-10 kHz. Not that it looks like a "bad" speaker, but I would screen them out of my audition list. I can .......
160: RE: False assumptions lead to false conclusions (3.12)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2017-11-04, 20:43:58 (23.24.137.117)
>> A little backstory would be nice. When submitting products for review to Stereophile, manufacturers are not allowed to pick the reviewer. That is the decision of the editor. We had no idea who wou .......
161: I am with CH this time (3.12)
Posted by Stale on 2011-06-16, 10:45:34 (151.154.29.157)
Re: "I agree with JV's rejection of components that make all recordings sound pleasant by adding, or subtracting, from what is on the master tape. " How do you know what is on the tape unless you pass .......
162: Wow (3.12)
Posted by E-Stat on 2015-11-16, 13:44:54 (206.255.200.146)
I couldn't disagree more strongly with one sentiment expressed in the linked article: "In other words, it's not really worth trusting an audio reviewer who is older than you are, because there is a r .......
163: Re: Right question - wrong answer... (3.10)
Posted by KlausR. on 2005-08-22, 23:54:04 (83.84.177.139)
A speaker may sound better to you because it has a broad midrange peak of, say, 2 dB. Ot it may sound better to you because it shows a 5 dB peak at mid-bass. In either case it does not reproduce bette .......
164: RE: Stereophile reviewer thrown under the bus (3.09)
Posted by John Atkinson on 2015-08-16, 05:43:03 (173.52.251.6)
>I would question if JA heard what he did because he saw it measured, or >once he saw the measurement he used it to explain what he heard... That is a great question. It is why Stereophile's reviewer .......
165: RE: Exactly. You have just described reality (3.09)
Posted by josh358 on 2013-05-03, 20:47:00 (107.211.82.25)
If everything were subjective, half of all listeners would prefer the sound of a table radio to that of a pair of Alexandrias. Obviously, this isn't the case. We all have a reasonable idea of what liv .......
166: This is why you need to make lots of audio friends. (3.08)
Posted by Al Sekela on 2006-12-07, 14:50:56 (71.131.227.91)
And listen carefully to what they like and dislike in different audio systems. I have one friend who values dynamics above tonal purity. Another wants a warm midrange and an open rendering of piano ch .......
167: RE: This only points out the necessity of long term listening... (3.08)
Posted by regmac on 2009-08-18, 10:32:37 (64.12.116.16)
"This only points out the necessity of long term listening...before describing the sound of a product - or making a purchasing decision. "Side-by-side comparisons and first impressions are pretty wort .......
168: RE: Reviewer(s) Average Age ??? (3.07)
Posted by RGA on 2011-10-26, 20:23:45 (218.188.39.59)
Then how do you explain the reviews to the contrary? Imaging "is 'good' if the performers can be effortlessly located." wiki On every well made disc - it is easy to hear this information on AN loudspe .......
169: That does seem useful (3.07)
Posted by Metralla on 2012-02-26, 16:52:11 (69.111.164.34)
Since it is purely based on what the reviewer experiences in their system and room. Any reviewer should have no trouble in completing the check list. I think 0-50 is a little too much though, and 1-10 .......
170: It doesn't require much investment (3.07)
Posted by E-Stat on 2013-04-19, 14:22:50 (206.255.212.225)
to find speakers that don't honk in the midrange (or are "shouty" as you call it). A lowly pair of Advents provides a far more natural presentation of music to these ears - along with more extensi .......
171: Thanks (3.07)
Posted by caspian@peak.org on 2010-12-28, 13:33:37 (69.59.200.72)
I'll go take a look at those measurements. Do you find the alto/soprano vocal range to be especially revealing of distortion in a speaker? I use Kate Wolf a lot to evaluate possible upper midrange/cro .......
172: You've seen them all, huh? (3.07)
Posted by truthseekerprime on 2007-05-16, 12:37:42 (128.122.53.252)
Well, no, I haven't seen them all. That's why I asked. I've done extensive searching on this in the past, and I have yet to see any DBT showing this effect. Random quotes from some people aren't going .......
173: RE: Wilson Sabrina X Loudspeaker (3.06)
Posted by Ladok on 2021-02-13, 11:39:56 (71.217.90.122)
Of more concern to me was JA's report that he heard a hum coming from one of the speaker's midrange unit before he even had the speaker hooked up! Like the driver had come alive and was singing along .......
174: Tubed vs SS bass... (3.06)
Posted by mkuller on 2006-05-06, 14:30:30 (207.200.116.196)
>That said, are you aware of *any* tube amp that controls bass as well as the best ss units?> No, but they are fairly close. Bass transient attack and control are still areas where ss is superior. I h .......
175: Toe-in? (3.05)
Posted by Dave_K on 2015-08-17, 11:37:09 (50.164.204.218)
John, I noticed that J.M. said he listened with the speakers completely toed in to the listening postion. What toe-in angle did you listen at? My reason for asking is that the high crossover frequency .......
176: RE: Thank you for the detailed reply. (3.04)
Posted by Charles Hansen on 2011-06-18, 10:20:14 (65.101.220.28)
>> I don't listen for any given sonic quality (e.g., extended treble or smooth midrange), but just rate the music. Of course, by rating the records, I am indirectly rating the playback system in a hol .......
177: RE: Have to agree with Sam T. on this issue (3.04)
Posted by Kloss on 2007-06-26, 06:41:02 (4.254.79.149)
Some of my loudspeakers use a transformer to ajust levels of tweeter and midrange.Best to match drivers but if you cant the transformer for me has been the best way.You do get the benifit of ajusting .......
178: RE: Funny, damned if you do (3.03)
Posted by zendada@w-link.net on 2014-12-20, 15:20:34 (97.113.30.26)
Except in a very small space, moving (the clue) directly up against the wall - as we suggested to Mr. Reichert before his review - will actually make quite a significant difference. The lower midrange .......
179: Back when... (3.03)
Posted by mkuller on 2012-09-14, 10:39:14 (24.4.150.31)
...I was reviewing - maybe 1997 - Wilson came out with a new 3-way, the WITT, I believe, and a pair were delivered and set up by one of their guys for me to review. I moved it around and really couldn .......
180: RE: I think that Stereophile's coverage of affordable equipment is in good faith, and meaningful (3.01)
Posted by middleground on 2015-02-25, 05:50:03 (174.88.255.83)
Curious about the Dynaudios, I found this on line: "CONS: Fatiguing high end. Understated midrange. Pillowy bass reproduction. No gain pot on Compact mkIII. Remote cable is unreasonably short. Short w .......
181: RE: Smooth frequency response and a well-controlled HF rolloff . . . (3.01)
Posted by Doug Schneider on 2023-02-10, 19:49:49 (173.34.242.63)
Indeed, ribbons can make nice high-frequency drivers, but they can make really poor upper-midrange drivers. It's all about the range it's used in. We measure distortion and, over the years, I'd notice .......
182: Re: Bruce from DC and AR Speakers... (3.00)
Posted by Bruce from DC on 2005-04-04, 13:59:53 (207.91.86.2)
I think you're memory is a little scrambled, but I'm not sure. ;-) Dixie Hifi did indeed sell AR speakers. But Dixie was a mail-order outfit based in Richmond, Virginia. Now, they also traded under th .......
183: Not unless they comment on the sound, and even then... (3.00)
Posted by SalD on 2006-01-26, 23:42:02 (67.83.205.202)
...it's not that important. On most systems I've had I could tell if a recording was really bad or really good, and I've never read too much in Gramaphone that amounted to audio nit-picking... it's pr .......
184: Hmmmmm . . . (3.00)
Posted by Pat D on 2004-08-14, 19:52:54 (69.195.197.239)
Nothing ever found closer than 2 dB in an audio DBT? Where do you get that? So why do folks like Tom Nousaine want to level match to within 0.1 dB? I have pointed out one graph for level matching crit .......
185: To pursue the Vandersteen example... (3.00)
Posted by Jim Austin on 2006-05-28, 03:57:28 (70.16.65.66)
Vandersteens are somewhat forgiving up to a point but require very careful setup to approach their considerable potential. This is something a casual review, by someone used to a different style of sp .......
186: What kind of conclusion is this? (2.99)
Posted by Bill the K on 2010-04-20, 09:31:00 (61.17.32.156)
I was reading Stereophile's RJR's review of Dynaudio X12 bookshelf speaker.He compares it with Monitor Audio Silver RS6 and finds that the RS6 has more extended upper frequencies and much better exten .......
187: Agree entirely ! (2.99)
Posted by E-Stat on 2007-06-25, 09:52:55 (206.255.203.68)
Although I am clearly in the minimalist camp overall (no preamp for CD sources) and not a big EQ fan, I highly value having tweeter level controls on speakers. It has been my experience that passive c .......
188: Re: T-Line Addenda (2.99)
Posted by skrivis on 2006-04-11, 08:05:47 (12.168.82.2)
I believe that Bud ranked bass loading methods as: 1. Horn-loaded (as in large concrete bass horns) 2. Transmission line 3. Aperiodic ("Line Tunnel," "Pressure Release," "Variovent") 4. Sealed box. 5. .......
189: Not only reviewed, but recommended back when it still meant something... (2.98)
Posted by Jay on 2004-07-03, 02:19:21 (63.185.8.245)
VMPS Tower II/R $1595/pair Stereophile May 1988 "Excellent imaging despite wide baffle and considerable drive-unit spacing... Superb bass extension and dynamic range, if a little loose; a clear yet u .......
190: Read it again and I would say its pretty positive (2.97)
Posted by morricab on 2013-02-11, 00:07:19 (160.62.4.10)
Perhaps you could highlight for me where he is damning with faint praise because I don't see it. It seems to me that he thinks the overall balance is about perfect with an almost tube-like midrange et .......
191: No it was many years ago... (2.96)
Posted by mkuller on 2005-10-14, 11:13:50 (207.200.116.6)
...that I compared the Blue Heaven and Red Dawn. The Red Dawns went back but I own the BHs. I was trying the BH's again because I felt I wasn't getting enough high frequenies from the MIT. Initially, .......
192: Usually... (2.96)
Posted by mkuller on 2017-03-23, 10:14:24 (107.205.10.55)
...the biggest change in hearing acuity is the loss of high frequencies as we age. As JA has pointed out, he refrains from discussing the very high frequencies. How much musical information occurs abo .......
193: RE: What did you think when you heard them? (2.95)
Posted by josh358 on 2010-05-20, 15:23:42 (64.148.11.234)
"Wait, FIRST, have you heard them?" LOL. Minor detail, that. Hey, maybe we should start a new publication written by reviewers who don't actually listen to the equipment: "The Grundage 8000, had I hea .......
194: funny story (2.95)
Posted by Sue Kraft on 2005-06-08, 10:27:12 (24.208.19.61)
A friend of mine has rocks taped to the bottom side of his amp and a pyramid placed on top. He swears both dramatically improve the sound. When he finally talked me into stopping by for a listen, the .......
195: I kinda thought you were confused (2.95)
Posted by E-Stat on 2006-05-07, 05:28:56 (24.99.71.139)
Among others KLH9, Acoustech X, many Martin Logans, Infinity Servo Static. I've also heard some of the early Magnepan magnetoplanar speakers including the Timpany IV. Of that list, only two are full .......
196: Let's take this one step at a time (2.95)
Posted by E-Stat on 2007-07-04, 22:04:15 (206.255.203.68)
Back to your reprise of the same accusation: As far as polarity is concerned, it was inexcusable that HP ignored it. Huh? Let's take another look at Harry's comments and try to place your comments i .......
197: RE: Tape is the penultimate ... (2.93)
Posted by Myles B. Astor on 2017-03-10, 08:59:06 (204.148.78.62)
Not necessarily. Especially when you consider new PB heads with narrower gaps are far better than what was used back in the '60s and '70s. Ergo the old master tapes played back on newer machines can s .......
198: Actually (2.93)
Posted by E-Stat on 2007-11-05, 15:17:47 (206.255.203.68)
I was staying on TG's commentary about amplifier design. His continual theme of "less parts" (actually fewer parts) relates more to a complex amplifier design, such as a pro amp, rather than high powe .......
199: Re: Is Stereophile going to re-test the Edge amp? (2.92)
Posted by rs2 on 2004-06-22, 18:47:29 (151.198.122.96)
As an NL-12 owner, I read the review & the section about the measurements anomaly & I request that John Atkinson could briefly describe what this might sound like & under what conditions. For myself, .......
200: RE: A fair shake? (2.92)
Posted by zendada@w-link.net on 2014-12-28, 20:08:33 (97.113.6.236)
As Jim Croft, the speaker's designer, said in his post on this thread, JA did NOT measure the speakers correctly. (the clue) depends on there being at least three room boundaries for correct bass rein .......
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