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In Reply to: Re: Don't think so posted by mfc on June 25, 2003 at 21:26:27:
Again, I don't want this to devolve into a discussion about semantics (which it may already have done).My point is that Norman Crowhurst described how a circuit with 3rd harmonic distortion (for example) would generate 9th harmonic distortion when feedback is applied. That is because there is now 3rd harmonic distortion on the 3rd harmonic from the first time the signal went through the circuit.
But this does not happen with a follower. So in my book (and to my ears), there is a clear fundamental difference between the "feedback" in a follower and the feedback in a normal feedback loop. Which is why I think it is better to refer to what happens in a follower (or unbypassed emitter/source/cathode resistor) as "degeneration" rather than "feedback".
Best regards,
Charles Hansen
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Topic - Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - kurt s 20:13:53 06/22/03 ( 83)
- Experiment #1 completed - kurt s 19:56:38 06/25/03 ( 13)
- Re: Experiment #1 completed - john curl 15:23:29 06/26/03 ( 1)
- Re: Experiment #1 completed - kurt s 07:21:02 06/27/03 ( 0)
- Don't forget RFI - Leisure7 11:48:48 06/26/03 ( 3)
- Re: Don't forget RFI - kurt s 12:07:34 06/26/03 ( 1)
- Could also be the speaker - kurt s 12:12:18 06/26/03 ( 0)
- Re: Don't forget RFI - Steve Eddy 12:04:55 06/26/03 ( 0)
Re: Experiment #1 completed - Scott Frankland 08:54:43 06/26/03 ( 0)
Re: Experiment #1 completed - Steve Eddy 21:50:10 06/25/03 ( 4)
- Re: Experiment #1 completed - kurt s 07:40:37 06/26/03 ( 3)
- Re: Experiment #1 completed - Steve Eddy 10:34:49 06/26/03 ( 2)
- Re: Experiment #1 completed - kurt s 10:51:46 06/26/03 ( 1)
- Re: Experiment #1 completed - Steve Eddy 11:28:45 06/26/03 ( 0)
Thanks for posting your results... - Charles Hansen 20:07:15 06/25/03 ( 0)
Excellent responses from all! - kurt s 19:43:48 06/23/03 ( 41)
- A few more random thoughts.... - Charles Hansen 13:32:25 06/24/03 ( 40)
- Re: A few more random thoughts.... - kurt s 20:58:10 06/24/03 ( 38)
- I don't completely agree... - Charles Hansen 09:31:16 06/25/03 ( 36)
- Feedback - mfc 18:47:24 06/25/03 ( 25)
- Actually, I believe you are reinforcing my point.... - Charles Hansen 20:10:58 06/25/03 ( 24)
- Re: Don't think so - mfc 21:26:27 06/25/03 ( 23)
- I still think so... - Charles Hansen 06/26/03 17:12:27 06/26/03 ( 6)
- Re: I still think so... - mfc 18:23:54 06/26/03 ( 5)
- Re: I still think so... - john curl 00:13:11 06/27/03 ( 4)
- common cathode unbypassed cathode resistor results - mfc 23:29:33 06/28/03 ( 3)
- Thanks, mfc. Nice work. nt - kurt s 18:24:48 06/29/03 ( 0)
- Re: common cathode unbypassed cathode resistor results - john curl 16:06:46 06/29/03 ( 0)
- Re: common cathode unbypassed cathode resistor results - Scott Frankland 15:54:18 06/29/03 ( 0)
- Re: Don't think so - kurt s 08:18:24 06/26/03 ( 10)
- Re: Don't think so - Scott Frankland 09:11:51 06/26/03 ( 9)
- Re: Don't think so - kurt s 09:52:02 06/26/03 ( 8)
- Re: Don't think so - Scott Frankland 11:25:49 06/26/03 ( 7)
- side question on feedback - mfc 21:38:48 06/26/03 ( 4)
- Re: side question on feedback - Scott Frankland 22:57:16 06/26/03 ( 0)
- Re: side question on feedback - kurt s 22:19:05 06/26/03 ( 2)
- Re: side question on feedback - Scott Frankland 23:18:13 06/26/03 ( 1)
- Re: side question on feedback, correction - Scott Frankland 14:33:30 06/27/03 ( 0)
- Re: Don't think so - john curl 15:14:27 06/26/03 ( 0)
- That sums it up. - kurt s 11:57:15 06/26/03 ( 0)
Re: Don't think so - Steve Eddy 21:59:19 06/25/03 ( 4)
- Care to elaborate? - mfc 08:28:27 06/26/03 ( 3)
- Re: Care to elaborate? - Steve Eddy 10:20:01 06/26/03 ( 2)
- Re: Care to elaborate? - mfc 20:57:39 06/26/03 ( 1)
- Re: Care to elaborate? - Steve Eddy 21:13:06 06/26/03 ( 0)
Re: Hitachi MOSFETs - kurt s 11:05:23 06/25/03 ( 9)
- Interelectrode capacitances.... - Charles Hansen 20:16:28 06/25/03 ( 4)
- Thanks. - kurt s 21:01:24 06/25/03 ( 3)
- Re: Thanks. - Charles Hansen 17:05:32 06/26/03 ( 2)
- Re: Thanks. - kurt s 21:52:37 06/26/03 ( 1)
- But even the obsolete devices we cherish - Leisure7 14:32:22 06/27/03 ( 0)
Re: Hitachi MOSFETs - kurt s 11:16:17 06/25/03 ( 3)
- Re: Hitachi MOSFETs - john curl 13:21:38 06/25/03 ( 2)
- Re: Hitachi MOSFETs - kurt s 13:32:08 06/25/03 ( 1)
- Re: Hitachi MOSFETs - john curl 14:49:37 06/25/03 ( 0)
Re: A few more random thoughts.... - Steve Eddy 22:34:01 06/24/03 ( 0)
Re: A few more random thoughts.... - john curl 15:19:26 06/24/03 ( 0)
check out tripath...I have used this with my k-horns with great results. - sunnysal 09:09:00 06/23/03 ( 0)
This May Still Be Too Much Power, But... - Todd Krieger 07:37:56 06/23/03 ( 0)
Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - Steve Eddy 20:21:42 06/22/03 ( 24)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - kurt s 20:26:01 06/22/03 ( 23)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - Steve Eddy 20:39:22 06/22/03 ( 22)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - kurt s 20:50:48 06/22/03 ( 21)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - Steve Eddy 21:01:20 06/22/03 ( 20)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - kurt s 21:18:12 06/22/03 ( 19)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - Steve Eddy 21:40:27 06/22/03 ( 18)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - kurt s 22:47:34 06/22/03 ( 1)
- Re: Help wanted with low power SS amp design from amp gurus - Steve Eddy 23:09:02 06/22/03 ( 0)
- And now for a completely different point of view... - Charles Hansen 22:24:30 06/22/03 ( 15)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - Jon Risch 10:51:12 06/24/03 ( 1)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - Steve Eddy 12:47:16 06/24/03 ( 0)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - kurt s 22:57:21 06/22/03 ( 5)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - Charles Hansen 23:59:52 06/22/03 ( 1)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - kurt s 08:03:30 06/23/03 ( 0)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - Steve Eddy 23:13:25 06/22/03 ( 2)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - kurt s 07:54:11 06/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - Steve Eddy 09:04:22 06/23/03 ( 0)
- Re: And now for a completely different point of view... - Steve Eddy 22:45:20 06/22/03 ( 6)
- Re: This I do not understand, 110 db and the 5 mV - jensw 00:29:40 06/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: This I do not understand, 110 db and the 5 mV - Steve Eddy 00:49:42 06/23/03 ( 0)
- Well... - Charles Hansen 23:48:40 06/22/03 ( 3)
- Re: Well... - Steve Eddy 00:46:01 06/23/03 ( 2)
- OK, I'll walk you through the math... - Charles Hansen 15:43:32 06/24/03 ( 0)
- P.S. - Steve Eddy 01:10:48 06/23/03 ( 0)