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Tubes Asylum: Alright, I'm sick of this stuff, get it straight on the 6P3S-E and read this post! by twystd Questions about tubes and gear that glows. FAQ |
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First point, lets call it by a consistent western name, which is the 6P3S-E, not the 6N3CE. One reason, all the ebay sellers use that name, as Victor Khomenko pointed out, it is the transliteration of the Cyrillic, and after all, we are using what passes for English. PLEASE don't don't bastardize with a combination of the two, things are confusing enough. We don't seem to have this problem with other Russian tubes like the 6N1P, 6N6P, or the 6N23P.Second, if you don't bias these tubes at 45ma or better they ARE going to sound thin. If you just drop these things into an amp and not bias them correctly, they won't sound their best. If you bias them right, and they sound thin, that's one thing, but if you just drop them into your Whiz-Bang 2000 commercial amp, and call it good, it ain't.
Third, although these things do look exactly, I know because I've compared them close up, like Sovtek 5881s, looks can be deceiving. I've removed these dry thin sounding pieces of crap 5881s out of my friends guitar amps, and replaced them with the mil spec 6P3S-Es. Smiles all around, even without break in, they sounded so much richer, had more sustain, and better attack. To make a long story short, they may look the same, but they SURE don't sound the same.
If you've already taken into account what I've just said, and they still sound thin, then they just didn't work out, or the synergy is bad with your system. If you haven't taken into account what I've said, then you haven't really heard a 6P3S-E.
So to sum up, lets call them what they are, know what the hell you're doing and bias them correctly, and finally don't confuse them with Sovtek 5881s. I can't believe I've gone through the trouble I have to let people in on one of the best deals in audio. Hell, I don't even like pentodes, and don't use them in my audio equipment. I'm a made member of the triode mafia!;-) Consider this to be my last post about these tubes.
twystd
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Topic - Alright, I'm sick of this stuff, get it straight on the 6P3S-E and read this post! - twystd 22:40:21 02/4/10 ( 21)
- RE: Alright, I'm sick of this stuff, get it straight on the 6P3S-E and read this post! - Detune 20:12:24 02/23/17 ( 0)
It is too bad... - Valva Actual 14:55:56 02/7/10 ( 4)
- Not EL34 Replacements - Triode_Kingdom 05:42:50 02/9/10 ( 0)
Just my way of getting everyones attention. - twystd 10:55:45 02/8/10 ( 1)
- Another thing to note, they do require a long-ish break- in period, IME. (n/t) - Cory M. 16:18:18 02/8/10 ( 0)
RE: It is too bad... - drlowmu 18:00:21 02/7/10 ( 0)
Agreed Twystd. These people that want to say that these are the same 5881 sovtek - Michael Samra 04:15:16 02/6/10 ( 0)
Am I disagreeing? - Frihed89 00:43:58 02/5/10 ( 5)
- In a Push Pull amp - drlowmu 09:47:26 02/5/10 ( 4)
- Why? They work great as is. - Frihed89 12:17:27 02/5/10 ( 3)
- WHACK !!! - drlowmu 12:55:45 02/5/10 ( 2)
- Think positive Nt - Frihed89 15:15:09 02/5/10 ( 1)
- heh-heh-heh... - PakProtector 04:05:08 02/6/10 ( 0)
So which sounds better - 6P3S-E or 6N3CE ? - Triode_Kingdom 22:59:46 02/4/10 ( 7)
- RE: So which sounds better - 6P3S-E or 6N3CE ? - Michael Samra 03:44:44 02/6/10 ( 0)
ARRHHGG!;-) (nt) - twystd 00:16:54 02/5/10 ( 5)
- RE: ARRHHGG!;-) (nt) - Mendel 05:48:03 02/5/10 ( 4)
- Yeah there's more to it than 45ma. - twystd 08:37:27 02/5/10 ( 3)
- that 5881 guitar amp - FenderLover 11:51:20 02/5/10 ( 2)
- RE: that 5881 guitar amp - twystd 15:23:51 02/5/10 ( 1)
- RE: that 5881 guitar amp - FenderLover 15:51:16 02/5/10 ( 0)