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In Reply to: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... posted by RGA on January 1, 2004 at 18:11:39:
> > > ...but it seems to me that if a 2 way two driver speaker can soudn that damn wonderful with a glorious cohesive sound why do we seem to perceive an advantage with so many of these EXTREMELY complex speakers.Exactly! You understand... but so many others just don't get it!
Two way systems can sound wonderful! Even one way systems can too... but i like to enhance with a subwoofer on for the bottom and a supertweeter on top.
That makes them 3-way systems but, the big difference is that one driver handles MOST of the music. One driver acts as a point source... the sub and the supertweeter are crossed over very low and very high so distortion induced by the crossover is not audible.
Multi-driver speakers like the Legacy can fill a large room with sound (in the case of the Legacy... it will need a big amp tho because it's a difficult load to drive... just look at the impedance curve... below 2 ohm in a few places!!!). Fewer drivers typically provide much easier loads and are easier to drive... especially by tube amps... which in my opinion are better than solid state. So the Legacy has a dissadvantage from the start since it cannot be driven by better sounding tube amps.
Also, having built many speakers over the years i have become aware of the horrible fatiguing sound of crossovers... the crap sound of a human voice being played thru a cone only to be handed off to a dome for higher notes... uhg... not to mention the power sucking monsters complicated crossovers are... sucking the life right out of the music... flat frequency response be damned!
Once an audiophile hears the sound a crossover contribues to the overall sound of a speaker... he/she will never like multiway speakers with crossovers in critical ranges of the music... like the Legacy.
Again, i have never heard the Legacy's. I do know they use expensive parts... but a more simple 2 or 3-way using some of the same components would probably sound better. A guess I am willing to make based on my (limited, hobbiest) experience.
I think the folks who like this speaker or similar multi way designs with lots of crossovers mucking up the sound and terrorizing an amp... reviewers or consumers... just haven't heard better, less complicated quality designs side by side... or haven't yet discoverd the musically detrimental sound characteristics of crossovers.
So there!
Peace. And happy new year to all!
Godzilla
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Topic - The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - RGA 18:11:39 01/1/04 ( 57)
- Here is a two-way that uses 9 drivers and is totally seamless - gme109 13:47:46 01/2/04 ( 5)
- Re: Here is a two-way that uses 9 drivers and is totally seamless - morricab 04:39:15 01/3/04 ( 1)
- I didn't say they were 9" drivers.... I said 9 drivers. - gme109 10:41:31 01/3/04 ( 0)
- Re: Here is a two-way that uses 9 drivers and is totally seamless - Sean 18:00:26 01/2/04 ( 2)
- Re: Here is a two-way that uses 9 drivers and is totally seamless - gme109 10:37:16 01/3/04 ( 1)
- Re: Here is a two-way that uses 9 drivers and is totally seamless - Sean 10:50:18 01/3/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Bruce from DC 13:30:18 01/2/04 ( 4)
- I'll second this statement - ccd 15:19:49 01/2/04 ( 3)
- Re: the trick with 3-ways - Bruce from DC 12:14:02 01/5/04 ( 0)
- For that matter.... - Sean 18:11:10 01/2/04 ( 1)
- Re: For that matter.... - RGA 18:38:44 01/2/04 ( 0)
See $8,000 Merlin VSM-M's are a bargain!!!!! (nt) - chuck55 12:38:55 01/2/04 ( 0)
Getting A Big Box To "SHUT UP" aint easy. And thats why... - ka7niq 11:58:00 01/2/04 ( 1)
- That's why its not a closed box (at least for the woofers) - morricab 04:37:11 01/3/04 ( 0)
A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - Mali 08:57:24 01/2/04 ( 11)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - morricab 11:19:37 01/2/04 ( 10)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - CONfused V 03:12:49 01/3/04 ( 1)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - RGA 16:20:55 01/3/04 ( 0)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - Mali 12:02:48 01/2/04 ( 7)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - CONfused V 03:15:42 01/3/04 ( 0)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - morricab 15:30:24 01/2/04 ( 5)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - Dave Kingsland 06:41:09 01/3/04 ( 4)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - CONfused V 07:14:49 01/3/04 ( 3)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - mauimusicman 18:42:19 01/6/04 ( 0)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - RGA 16:46:17 01/3/04 ( 0)
- Re: A couple of two-ways that will knock your socks off. - mauimusicman 15:24:19 01/3/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 02:09:42 01/2/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Ric Schultz 19:16:11 01/1/04 ( 2)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 02:11:20 01/2/04 ( 1)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 02:12:07 01/2/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Godzilla. 01/1/04 18:35:11 01/1/04 ( 17)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Johnny B 09:51:42 01/2/04 ( 2)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Godzilla. 12:29:55 01/2/04 ( 1)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Johnny B 13:13:45 01/2/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - uw312@aol.com 08:39:12 01/2/04 ( 9)
- Legacy Whisper and Amplifier question? - twochanneldave 23:21:49 01/4/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 03:20:05 01/3/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Godzilla. 08:51:17 01/2/04 ( 6)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - uw312@aol.com 10:54:04 01/2/04 ( 5)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 03:22:06 01/3/04 ( 4)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - uw312@aol.com 08:50:47 01/4/04 ( 3)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - RGA 12:34:05 01/4/04 ( 2)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - uw312@aol.com 15:39:50 01/4/04 ( 1)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - RGA 16:25:56 01/4/04 ( 0)
Interesting Note............. - TjMV3 07:02:24 01/2/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 02:15:44 01/2/04 ( 2)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Godzilla. 06:24:28 01/2/04 ( 1)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 03:31:39 01/3/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Tom Brennan 18:18:47 01/1/04 ( 8)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - philefreak 10:20:27 01/2/04 ( 0)
Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - RGA 18:34:58 01/1/04 ( 6)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Godzilla. 18:44:44 01/1/04 ( 5)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Brian Walsh 11:28:03 01/2/04 ( 0)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 02:19:38 01/2/04 ( 3)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - Godzilla. 06:36:20 01/2/04 ( 2)
- Re: The Legacy discussion below got me thinking... - CONfused V 03:24:32 01/3/04 ( 0)
- Godzilla - Mali 09:05:32 01/2/04 ( 0)