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As Usual You're Wrong Again....

Pat, once again you're wrong. Unfortunately when I attempt to explain why you whine that the post is too long for you to read, IMHO I think you find the truth hurts when you read it. Yet I'll address your points and explain why they are wrong, so the others who wish to continue reading can see the truth!

1)Pat D states: In fact it bugs the hell out of you that I don't believe that you can actually hear the differences between most interconnects (phono cables excepted) and speaker wires and such.

It doesn't bother me the slightest bit what you think Pat. I know what the truth is. I have attempted to open your eyes in the past. Your illogical comments just demand to be addressed, so if not you, others can see how you are mistaken. For Example: I amazed that you can believe one type of wires i.e phono cables can sound different, yet all the others interconnects, speakerwire and power cords cannot. That's very illogical.

Allow me to explain this as simply as possible. The reasons wires sound different is easily explained & scientifically verifiable. It's a well known fact the LCR parameters can effect how a wire sounds. In addition one needs to consider both metal purity and the type of dielectric used.

Why? Because the dielectric, also refered to as insulation causes an opposition or impedance, to the expansion and collapsing of the magnetic field as it forms around the wire when an AC or music signal is passed. This unfortunately for us, can effect the wire's sound audibly.

Think of it like this. (Please understand for this example I'm just making up and using easy numbers to work with so the principle I'm trying to describe will be simple to understand) Let's say we have an AC/music signal being applied at a frequency that's moving 1" back and forth in the wire. If the wire had no dielectric (the ideal) a magnetic field would expand and collapse 1" as well.

Now when using a wire with no dielectric, as the music plays the signal starts to move 1" to the left and at the same exact time the magnetic field expands out and away from the wire an equal 1". As the signal reverses and goes back 1" the magnetic field collapses an equal 1 towards the wire". Thus in the end the both start and end in the same place and all should be well.

Unfortunately for us music lovers we need dielectric on the wire to prevent them from shorting out the component. But remember the dielectric although needed does a bad thing. It's constantly opposing the expansion and collapsing of the magnetic field the AC or music signal creates. So in the end we have a magnetic field that's both expanding and collapsing too slow, due to dielectric impedance. This results in the magnetic field collapsing on a part of the AC or music signal that DIDN'T CREATE IT INITIALLY.

I suppose we could look at this collapsing (also refered to as "dump rate") on the wrong part of the music signal as a type of time induced distortion and it's definitely audible. Sort of like tape bleed through on old cassettes and 8-tracks, but not anywhere near that audible. This is just basic info Pat and something a supposedly scientifically oriented music lover should know. It's quite measureable and verifiable, just ask Nordost, they've been measuring it for years now!
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2) Pat D claims: Indeed, you are the perfect example of a person who minds.

As I said above in an earlier post I don't know one single Subjectivist (that includes me) who gives a horse's pa-toot if you or any other Objectivist for that matter, believes what to your mind is an extraordinary claim or not. If you look through the many posts here on AA you'll notice it Objectivists like YOU, RBG and others who really mind. But rather than admit this simple truth, you all claim you're only trying to keep us Subjectivists from spreading falsehoods to the gullible music lovers out there. To that bit of dung, I'd answer that in like, we are trying to keep you Objectivists from keeping young music lovers from learning to trust their ears, not measurements! Afterall many a horrible measuring amp sounds wonderful, while many a wonderful measuring amp sounds horrible, so I say TRUST YOUR EARS!
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3) Pat D continues with: You have in the past falsely accused me of considering you a liar, you have called me weak minded, you have called me a liar, and so on.

Unlike you Pat:

A) I don't keep a running tally. So I don't remember where you called me a liar (or implied it.)

B) I do however continue to believe you are indeed weak-minded "IF" you still believe you or others are so easily biased into hearing differences that don't exist simply because others say they hear differences (I know I don't) I also believe you are weak-minded "IF" you still believe seeing a brand name you like would cause you or others into believing the component sounds good (I know I don't) So yes Pat if you continue to believe these types of things then I continue to believe you are weak-minded, that's true.

C) Now if and when I ever called you a liar it's because at that time you lied. I NEVER call anyone a liar that I don't outright catch in a lie. But as I don't keep running tallies and I'm not going to review every exchange we've ever made I cannot prove it to you.
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Pat D goes on with: You want to give advice and are upset that some of us don't think it's good advice.

Pat I know I have gotten upset in the past and responded to some people, perhaps even you, in an inappropriate manner. This was due to medications I was taking at that time that. They caused me to have some wide, sometimes violent mood swings. After my wife convinced I wasn't acting right, I 1) had the meds changed,
2) realized what I did and 3) made a public apology here on AA for my actions. I think your bringing that up again and throwing it in my face, is an excellent example of some of your poorer character qualities, but then you are just being Pat D.

I'll say what I've said before, I don't give a horses pa-toot if you follow any advice I give or not. How many times do I have to tell you EVERYTHING matters? Howver just because everything matters and something works for me, doesn't mean it will work for you!

There's too many variables, your room is different, your components are different, your hearing ability is different etc. all these things and more will effect the final outcome. Yet knowing this very well yourself, if you don't get the same result, rather than give me or others the benefit of the doubt, you'll insist it isn't true. ONLY YOU seem to believe I think my advice and it's outcome is a universal truth that should occur for everyone, in every room, with everyone's different hearing abilities, not me!
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Latly Pat D asks: Is it up to you and me to prove the GSIC doesn't work?

It's up to you and anyone else who might want to try it! Not I, nor anyone else needs to prove anything to you. Who are you that you believe that I, or anyone else prove things to you? When you demand proof, I say prove it for yourself, or don't as you see fit to decide for yourself.

As for myself and others who make claims you find extraordinary:

1) we've already heard the difference.
2) we've already proved it to ourselves.
3) we already don't care if you believe us or not.

So why should we waste our precious time trying to prove something to you? We have better things to do. I have better things to do like listening to the dramatic improvement replacing 5687 tubes with 6900 tubes makes in my Mastersound Reference 845 amp!

Thetubeguy1954


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