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In Reply to: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? posted by limono on March 4, 2009 at 19:56:15:
I have been fortunate to meet Greg Timbers of JBL on several occasions. He has mentioned the battery biasing of capacitors more than once, but just as with RCAfan mentioning conical horns it took a while for the importance of the information to make it through my thick skull. As with the conicals, when I finally experimented I was delighted with the results of this "charge coupling" technique.
Greg describes the technique creating a class A situation. I think this is correct. I have long thought that the remarkable retrieval of fine detail possible with single ended tube circuits is due to the avoidance of a zero crossing point with zero signal, i.e. the transformer(s) are biased up to some point between cutoff and saturation by plate current. Instead of tiny microvolt signals (reverberant tails, etc.) being distorted by nonlinearities in the crossover region where magnetic fields are collapsing and reforming in opposite polarity with every audio half cycle, these tiny signals sail on through the most linear operating region of a biased transformer as just a tiny modulation of the quiescent bias point.
So now it seems we have the same situation with capacitors. In the usual passive crossover, to pass the audio signal the electrostatic fields have to collapse and reform with every half cycle, and the smallest signals live in the most "dirty" nonlinear region of the device. Biasing the capacitors involves extra cost and expense, as one needs to two capacitors of double the value of the unbiased circuit (four times total capacitance) to achieve the same filtering. Rich and I have found that with the high pass crossover to our midrange / high frequency driver the improvement in sound is not subtle, more of a "Wow" experience.
Greg Timbers discusses the technique in the third post of the Lansing Heritage thread linked to below.
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Topic - JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - limono 19:56:15 03/4/09 ( 33)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - mah 02:41:58 10/1/16 ( 1)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - mah 02:52:12 10/1/16 ( 0)
Can I ask an "is it kind of like" question about the sound? - Dan_ed 06:29:36 03/9/09 ( 0)
RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - Steve Schell 03/8/09 13:36:53 03/8/09 ( 6)
- RE: "charge coupled capacitor network in crossover"... - Ivan303 17:57:32 03/8/09 ( 4)
- RE: "charge coupled capacitor network in crossover"... - Steve Schell 22:37:12 03/8/09 ( 3)
- RE: "charge coupled capacitor network in crossover"... - Ivan303 08:28:23 03/9/09 ( 2)
- RE: "charge coupled capacitor network in crossover"... - Steve Schell 10:21:38 03/9/09 ( 1)
- Could be.... - Ivan303 10:29:40 03/9/09 ( 0)
RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - Steve Schell 13:44:00 03/8/09 ( 0)
JBL K2 - djk 21:23:22 03/7/09 ( 3)
- RE: JBL K2 - freddyi 11:08:05 03/8/09 ( 2)
- RE: JBL K2 - Robert Hamel 12:35:52 03/8/09 ( 1)
- RE: JBL K2 - freddyi 10:06:49 03/9/09 ( 0)
Charge Coupled Capacitor Network - JoMoCo 18:50:55 03/6/09 ( 1)
- RE: Charge Coupled Capacitor Network - JoMoCo 21:38:59 03/6/09 ( 0)
RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - gymwear5@hotmail.com 13:55:14 03/6/09 ( 0)
Can anyone point me to a schematic?? - SLM 23:00:37 03/5/09 ( 3)
- RE: Can anyone point me to a schematic?? - djk 02:07:10 03/6/09 ( 2)
- RE: Can anyone point me to a schematic?? - JoshK 08:23:25 03/6/09 ( 1)
- RE: Can anyone point me to a schematic?? - gfederys 10:33:08 03/6/09 ( 0)
RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - rjd 20:02:39 03/5/09 ( 8)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - dave slagle 08:12:40 03/6/09 ( 6)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - Steve Schell 13:57:20 03/8/09 ( 4)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - dave slagle 18:17:44 03/8/09 ( 3)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - Steve Schell 22:48:32 03/8/09 ( 2)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - dave slagle 11:45:55 03/9/09 ( 1)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - thraxAn 03:27:09 09/17/16 ( 0)
- RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - PakProtector 09:34:32 03/6/09 ( 0)
Shhhhhh* - eso 20:38:24 03/5/09 ( 0)
RE: JBL charge coupled capacitor network in crossover?? - Robert Hamel 03:49:58 03/5/09 ( 2)
- Have you tried with cheaper caps? - Ivan303 07:21:03 03/9/09 ( 1)
- RE: Have you tried with cheaper caps? - Robert Hamel 09:26:21 03/9/09 ( 0)