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In Reply to: I work for... posted by Jim Austin on May 17, 2005 at 08:36:13:
To give the sentence a fuller due: "Defending a crackpot, bogus,
obvious audio tweak by invoking the possibility of scientific
breakthroughs is an insult to all the men and women who dedicate
their lives to achieving... a much more modest scientific
breakthrough..."Hmm... Not even the possibility of a breakthrough is to be allowed us here, much less an actual breakthrough. No no no. Can't have that! The most that can ever be claimed, according to this luminary from the Academy, is a modest breakthrough.
This is valuable information. NSTAASB.
Should there ever be another (God forbid!) Einstein, he damn well better be respectful of Mr. Austin's sensibilities and not go off acting like he's really got something. Because as we all now know, that would offend all the men and women who... labor as lesser lights.
NSTAASB. Thank you, Mr. Austin.As to the Chip being a "crackpot, bogus, obvious audio tweak" -- I'm happy to see that Mr. Austin agrees it's an obvious audio tweak, but of course they called lots of guys crackpots who now are enshrined in the halls of academe. But "bogus"? I'd like to see the proof for that.
Science is all about proof, so let's put it on the table Mr. Austin. Make it transparent for us. And in this instance we are not going to let you simply reiterate that there's No Such Thing As A Scientific Breakthrough.
clark
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Topic - A sad day on planet audio :( - JustCantBelieveIt 18:58:32 05/16/05 ( 164)
- I'm amazed this is still a topic of conversation. - Chris_F 09:35:24 05/19/05 ( 0)
I don't know, but - KT88 17:12:44 05/17/05 ( 0)
"marketing through condescention ".... - feet's too big 15:41:19 05/17/05 ( 8)
- Re: "marketing through condescention ".... - flickkit 21:41:58 05/17/05 ( 7)
- Again, this is a very sad situation… - feet's too big 06:03:10 05/18/05 ( 6)
- Re: Please re-read your post: points b and c in particular; see the self-identity? - Guy 09:04:49 05/18/05 ( 5)
- Since you ask, no I don't...... - feet's too big 11:16:25 05/18/05 ( 4)
- Re: Since you ask, no I don't......point b and c again...repeatedly. - Guy 12:02:09 05/18/05 ( 3)
- Guy, the problem with your attempted sophistry.... - feet's too big 12:37:02 05/18/05 ( 2)
- Re: I'll just point out when you are personally offensive... - Guy 12:50:30 05/18/05 ( 1)
- All right, Guy..... For the VERY last time...... - feet's too big 13:48:21 05/18/05 ( 0)
Re: A sad day on planet audio :( - Still lots of old school audiophiles out there! 08:34:02 05/17/05 ( 0)
Please... For the Love of GOD!!! - SF tech 08:27:07 05/17/05 ( 0)
"It's beyond any science currently known." -- Jim Austin - clarkjohnsen 08:14:17 05/17/05 ( 70)
- I work for... - Jim Austin 08:36:13 05/17/05 ( 69)
- Well said Jim! NT - lancelot 16:40:08 05/17/05 ( 0)
- "Invoking the possibility of scientific breakthroughs is an insult to all." - clarkjohnsen 05/17/05 12:14:47 05/17/05 ( 44)
- physics - tunenut 17:37:53 05/17/05 ( 20)
- No one claimed that there must in this case be "new laws of physics". You have a straw-man argument. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:42:53 05/18/05 ( 16)
- straw man - perhaps - tunenut 13:58:04 05/18/05 ( 6)
- Me: "An unexplored path to growth." You: "New laws of physics." - clarkjohnsen 16:24:14 05/18/05 ( 5)
- not at all - tunenut 17:13:04 05/18/05 ( 4)
- Me: "Change our view of the physical realm." You: "New laws of physics." Still LOL! - clarkjohnsen 08:00:39 05/19/05 ( 3)
- "clearly my intention" - tunenut 08:35:59 05/19/05 ( 2)
- "Change our view of the physical realm" still does not equate with "New laws of physics." Give it up, pal. - clarkjohnsen 10:55:03 05/19/05 ( 1)
- I never said that - tunenut 21:18:42 05/19/05 ( 0)
- I did. And I was right. (nt) - Jim Austin 09:04:48 05/18/05 ( 8)
- New physics, old physics, the chip works... - Wellfed 12:31:03 05/18/05 ( 7)
- put your money where your mouth is... - jneutron 13:12:35 05/18/05 ( 6)
- How about... - Wellfed 14:52:36 05/18/05 ( 5)
- Better yet.. - jneutron 06:11:23 05/19/05 ( 4)
- I am working on having a local university test me... - Wellfed 08:00:01 05/19/05 ( 3)
- Re: I am working on having a local university test me... - jneutron 08:55:35 05/19/05 ( 2)
- Re: physics - ArlenT 18:01:05 05/17/05 ( 2)
- Re: physics - jneutron 07:15:05 05/18/05 ( 0)
- not physics - tunenut 19:09:48 05/17/05 ( 0)
Let the record show... - Jim Austin 13:25:09 05/17/05 ( 21)
- Let the record show that I quoted Mr. Austin VERBATIM and now he tries to diss me. - clarkjohnsen 08:19:53 05/18/05 ( 17)
- Clark: You're lying - Jim Austin 08:23:56 05/18/05 ( 16)
- I simply can't see why you continue the personal calumny -- - clarkjohnsen 08:39:42 05/18/05 ( 15)
- Where is it, Clark? - Jim Austin 09:02:46 05/18/05 ( 14)
- I included it in the body of the message. Geez Luiz! LOOK AT IT WITH EYES WIDE OPEN. - clarkjohnsen 09:19:10 05/18/05 ( 5)
- What is written in the body of that message - Jim Austin 09:23:53 05/18/05 ( 4)
- What is written in the subject line of that message was EXACTLY what was written in the body. Your false accusations... - clarkjohnsen 10:19:13 05/18/05 ( 3)
- Re: What is written in the subject line of that message was EXACTLY what was written in the body. Your false accusations - Steve Eddy 12:06:17 05/18/05 ( 1)
- That's pure rubbish. Plus, look at the first sentence of the post. It's all his. Begone. nt - clarkjohnsen 16:08:50 05/18/05 ( 0)
- Defending a crackpot, bogus, obvious audio tweak by invoking the possibility of scientific breakthroughs is an insult to - jneutron 10:47:51 05/18/05 ( 0)
- Re: Where is it, Clark? - Steve Eddy 09:16:56 05/18/05 ( 7)
- Re: "Where is THE APOLOGY, Clark?" should read the question. - Guy 09:58:40 05/18/05 ( 6)
- He did quote the sentence, in context... - Wellfed 13:05:28 05/18/05 ( 5)
- Yes, I know... - Jim Austin 13:28:07 05/18/05 ( 4)
- Re: Yes, I know... - john curl 17:11:50 05/18/05 ( 1)
- I've been waiting for that one... - Jim Austin 17:28:59 05/18/05 ( 0)
- Re: Yes, I know...additionally it's an Attention-graber. - Guy 13:38:31 05/18/05 ( 1)
- "Attention-grabber."..well, what do you expect from a writer? If no headlines, make them..nt - jneutron 13:43:38 05/18/05 ( 0)
"incapable of honest, serious debate" - pconr 13:46:44 05/17/05 ( 2)
- I consider it to be an irrational view... - Wellfed 12:54:04 05/18/05 ( 1)
- Re: I consider it to be an irrational view... - pconr 18:35:59 05/18/05 ( 0)
There *are* scientific breakthroughs... - jbmcb 12:36:29 05/17/05 ( 0)
Degrees - jbmcb 11:56:53 05/17/05 ( 0)
Bravo - norfish 10:29:27 05/17/05 ( 1)
- Please notice... - Jim Austin 13:30:44 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: I work for... - Soundmind 10:29:01 05/17/05 ( 19)
- Have you ever read Stereophile ? - michaelb 12:48:03 05/17/05 ( 1)
- Re: Have you ever read Stereophile ? - Soundmind 15:53:40 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: I work for... - drew 11:26:23 05/17/05 ( 9)
- Re: I work for... - Soundmind 13:03:23 05/17/05 ( 8)
- Re: I work for... - Drew 14:44:29 05/17/05 ( 7)
- Re: I work for... - Soundmind 15:54:59 05/17/05 ( 6)
- Re: I work for... - D 16:37:13 05/17/05 ( 5)
- Emerson, the giant killer, heh, heh nt. - Frank E 11:37:28 05/18/05 ( 0)
- Re: I work for... - Soundmind 04:58:09 05/18/05 ( 3)
- no i wouldn't... - robert young 09:23:29 05/18/05 ( 2)
- Spoken like a truely worried Jadis CD player owner nt - Soundmind 13:34:35 05/18/05 ( 1)
- not a chance... - robert young 03:46:15 05/19/05 ( 0)
Re: I work for... - norfish 10:35:50 05/17/05 ( 6)
- Re: I work for... - Soundmind 11:12:10 05/17/05 ( 5)
- Philosophy of science - Jim Austin 11:55:40 05/17/05 ( 4)
- Nonsense - Soundmind 14:29:49 05/17/05 ( 3)
- No, not nonsense - Jim Austin 15:13:50 05/17/05 ( 2)
- I'm not sure where to post this... - Jack Gribble 21:20:16 05/17/05 ( 1)
- Re: I'm not sure where to post this... - Soundmind 05:18:53 05/18/05 ( 0)
In regards to the man who designed... - unclestu52 23:33:26 05/16/05 ( 1)
- Re: In regards to the man who designed... - Steve Eddy 00:04:05 05/17/05 ( 0)
Lots of good amps - Jefe 22:27:25 05/16/05 ( 5)
- Re: Lots of good amps - TommyK 14:25:52 05/17/05 ( 0)
Except he can design a good amp - michaelb 10:12:38 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: Lots of good amps - john curl 23:33:53 05/16/05 ( 2)
- Thanks for showing your true colors - Jefe 07:51:38 05/17/05 ( 1)
- I'm sorry folks are piling on JC, but... - Jim Austin 08:00:04 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: A sad day on planet audio :( - Jim Austin 20:14:48 05/16/05 ( 1)
- great article, Jim - Alex S 20:23:09 05/16/05 ( 0)
Here's JC's post - Jim Austin 20:01:23 05/16/05 ( 0)
Best to not judge John Curl's - warnerwh 19:59:10 05/16/05 ( 69)
- Re: Best to not judge John Curl's - May Belt 09:19:17 05/17/05 ( 5)
- Re: May Belt... - Guy 10:56:22 05/18/05 ( 2)
- Re: May Belt... - May Belt 12:49:18 05/18/05 ( 1)
- Re: May Belt.. - Guy 12:56:00 05/18/05 ( 0)
- "Jim believes [in] strict physical conventional electronic or acoustic theories." Exactly! - clarkjohnsen 12:50:02 05/17/05 ( 0)
It's true that I don't believe in magic - Jim Austin 09:59:02 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: Best to not judge John Curl's - john curl 22:42:29 05/16/05 ( 62)
- Why make tweek that can't be heard on average system?? - Robert Hamel 10:37:19 05/17/05 ( 13)
- Re: What's "average?" - geoffkait 05:49:09 05/18/05 ( 0)
- I can hear the effect on my $190 kitchen Sony system. Which, by the way... - clarkjohnsen 11:36:22 05/17/05 ( 11)
- Clark, tell us what that $190 system is. I'd be interested in getting one if they're still making it. nt - JimL 14:05:01 05/17/05 ( 7)
- NB: This newer system... - clarkjohnsen 16:07:31 05/18/05 ( 3)
- Could your system be the MHCGX450? Description sounds similar, also price. nt - JimL 19:12:57 05/19/05 ( 1)
- That most surely is it. In addition... - clarkjohnsen 10:21:08 05/20/05 ( 0)
- Or, maybe if you provide the original model number I can scrounge around for a used one. nt - JimL 11:32:21 05/19/05 ( 0)
- Here ya go. - clarkjohnsen 08:32:47 05/18/05 ( 2)
- Thanks, Clark. nt - JimL 11:18:04 05/19/05 ( 0)
- did you mean spring for the extra $125? - jneutron 11:18:01 05/18/05 ( 0)
Well if that's the case it will work for "Joe Sixpack" - Robert Hamel 12:33:51 05/17/05 ( 1)
- "What's wrong with beer anyway??" It makes you gross. - clarkjohnsen 13:13:19 05/17/05 ( 0)
Your "Double-Wide" in Arkansas awaits you;-) nt - Ivan303 12:08:38 05/17/05 ( 0)
Hmm. I may be interpreting your post incorrectly. Are you implying that...... - Rick W 07:34:04 05/17/05 ( 1)
- I think he's saying - Rodney Gold 09:51:02 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: Best to not judge John Curl's - Jack Seaton 06:49:27 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: Best to not judge John Curl's - Steve Eddy 23:55:03 05/16/05 ( 44)
- Analyzing the chip - KlausR. 04:17:09 05/17/05 ( 43)
- "Worthless when you want to provide solid evidence." - clarkjohnsen 08:06:35 05/17/05 ( 42)
- I fully agree with you... - KlausR. 10:22:07 05/17/05 ( 6)
- "Obviously it's not you." Actually I'm one of the few who do. Remember? - clarkjohnsen 11:25:52 05/17/05 ( 5)
- ""You weren't interested in the truth.""...LOL, you mean....your version?nt - jneutron 12:05:32 05/17/05 ( 4)
- I told him -- and I tell you -- the truth. That it did not set you free... - clarkjohnsen 12:35:11 05/17/05 ( 3)
- your "truth"...you crack me up..you've provided nothing of substance.just denigration.nt - jneutron 13:02:17 05/17/05 ( 2)
- Denigration? What do you call Klaus' "Obviously it's not you" remark? - clarkjohnsen 13:15:50 05/17/05 ( 1)
- Consistent with your postings..."surely, I heard it...I can't be wrong'..nt - jneutron 13:24:35 05/17/05 ( 0)
- Re: "Worthless when you want to provide solid evidence." - Sue Kraft 10:13:00 05/17/05 ( 12)
- "the transport in my CD player wasn't level" - BS64 12:48:39 05/17/05 ( 0)
- Who told you that? nt - clarkjohnsen 11:22:01 05/17/05 ( 10)
- Geoff Kait - Sue Kraft 12:08:10 05/17/05 ( 9)
- Did he explain why? - KlausR. 00:08:11 05/18/05 ( 1)
- No - Sue Kraft 04:59:43 05/18/05 ( 0)
- Re: Geoff Kait - Steve Eddy 20:46:25 05/17/05 ( 0)
- I'll let him answer that, but Damn! he never told *me*. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:32:02 05/17/05 ( 5)
- Don't you purveyors of "truth" talk to one another???nt - jneutron 13:04:25 05/17/05 ( 4)
- Re: Did Hirohito and Hitler talk to one another? Answer made. - Guy 07:06:35 05/18/05 ( 3)
- Perhaps those references are better left on the cutting room floor?.. - jneutron 07:18:47 05/18/05 ( 2)
- It was a playful joust: that 'sinister forces' work solo. No offense met. - Guy 10:01:32 05/18/05 ( 1)
- that 'sinister forces' work solo. - jneutron 11:21:48 05/18/05 ( 0)
Re: A question for Mr. Johnsen...and please be straight-up... - Guy 08:55:47 05/17/05 ( 3)
- Re: Mr. Johnsen, I'm overjoyed to respond... - Guy 10:07:59 05/18/05 ( 0)
I see you haven't replied... I gave you the courtesy...nt - clarkjohnsen 08:50:54 05/18/05 ( 0)
No such thing as a 10X improvement in sound. For a more reasoned example... - clarkjohnsen 11:30:05 05/17/05 ( 0)
"Life is too full of interesting things to do." - Jim Austin 08:41:49 05/17/05 ( 12)
- Here ya go, Jim... - Steve Eddy 10:18:09 05/17/05 ( 10)
- laughed so hard I soiled the armor... nt - TommyK 14:12:53 05/17/05 ( 0)
- That could well be me right now... - Jim Austin 12:12:21 05/17/05 ( 8)
- Re: That could well be me right now... - Steve Eddy 12:42:30 05/17/05 ( 7)
- I wish I hadn't see that... - Wellfed 13:45:27 05/17/05 ( 2)
- Re: I wish I hadn't see that... - Steve Eddy 14:30:21 05/17/05 ( 1)
- I panicked there for a moment, my appetite is quickly returning... - Wellfed 14:44:42 05/17/05 ( 0)
- What the heck IS THAT???? - Jim Austin 13:29:12 05/17/05 ( 3)
- Re: What the heck IS THAT???? - Steve Eddy 14:28:34 05/17/05 ( 2)
- Art, I'm guessing... - Jim Austin 17:07:17 05/17/05 ( 1)
- Re: Art, I'm guessing... - Steve Eddy 18:43:29 05/17/05 ( 0)
Re: "Life is too full of interesting things to do." - Steve Eddy 09:06:49 05/17/05 ( 0)
""a bunch of ninnies too scared to listen for themselves""..you crack me up.nt - jneutron 08:37:37 05/17/05 ( 4)
- I think it is. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:31:21 05/17/05 ( 0)
For most folks it isn't a question of fear ... nt - Jack Seaton 10:55:21 05/17/05 ( 2)
- exactly - BS64 11:36:37 05/17/05 ( 1)
- Re: exactly - jneutron 12:12:41 05/17/05 ( 0)
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