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In Reply to: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? posted by more sense than money on April 11, 2005 at 05:05:30:
Just for have some answer about it with low price removing AOP on my CD Player Proceed PCD2.J'ai essayé diverses combinaisons pour en arriver à quelques conclusions :
I've try most combinaisons to obtain some results :Vue interne / internal view:
[img]http://www.audio-conseil.com/SAV/Proceed/CardTest.jpg[/img]
Sur une base de OPA604 en IC5 et IC10, j'ai monté successivement en IC4 et IC9 des :
The patron is : OPA604 on IC5 and IC10, in combo on IC4 and IC9 with :OPA134 : Moins de médium aigu, son moins dynamique, image stéréo plus basse et moins large.
Less mid high range, dynamic break down, sound stage low and narrow.OPA627 : Son détaillé, beau médium, mais ... trop de bruits, de parasites en sortie, à la mesure nous obtenons + 0,09 V sur les RCA...
Details and good mid range, but ... too much parasites noises, + 0,09V RCA OUT.AD 847 : idem, 0,03 V mesuré sur les RCA
AD 844 : idem avec un +0,60V ! je n'ai même pas essayé pour l'fun.
I haven't try even for fun...OPA604 : 0,00V et un son digne d'une platine haut de gamme de ce calibre, il y a tout, là où il le faut, pas grand chose à reprocher à cette combinaison, qui est pour moi la meilleure de toutes celles que j'ai faites.
That's right, this a real sound about Cd player to this price and reputation.
It's not perfect... and I think it's allways possible to grow up more, but it was the best listening to the day.Il est certainement possible de faire mieux ... Ã voir
Even it's possible to make a better test ... may be a day ... soonJ'ai également essayé une combinaison avec 4 x OPA627 : la voie de gauche a décidée de partir ailleurs... avec pas mal de parasites.
I have tryed a combinaison with 4 X OPA627, and there are too much noises in output RCA.
IL semble que le montage du Proceed nous empêche de combiner certains AOP... et je ne sais pas pourquoi.
I can't put what I want in my Proceed, like AOP, and I don't know why.
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Topic - Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - more sense than money 05:05:30 04/11/05 ( 34)
- Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - sonicninja 14:35:37 04/15/05 ( 0)
Yes, at lower price points due to much better op-amps. - Il Mostro 08:18:27 04/15/05 ( 0)
In my limited experience -- not at all - John Gratsias 12:29:20 04/14/05 ( 2)
- Hmm...OTOH...consider the source.. - Harmonia 16:24:31 04/15/05 ( 1)
- That's not what the question was - John Gratsias 19:50:25 04/19/05 ( 0)
I can Speak for $5000 ones. - billeames 12:29:34 04/13/05 ( 0)
Yes, my computer is so much better than my old CD player - Scrith 21:21:17 04/12/05 ( 5)
- Yeah but it takes forever to boot up and the fan is noisy! -nt - AbeCollins 20:35:35 04/13/05 ( 4)
- Re: Yeah but it takes forever to boot up and the fan is noisy! -nt - AlphaGeek 09:06:41 04/15/05 ( 0)
- Re: Not really.... - Lynn 22:24:45 04/13/05 ( 2)
- re: Still a lot of 'crap' just to play CD's don't ya think? - AbeCollins 07:08:20 04/15/05 ( 1)
- Re: re: Still a lot of 'crap' just to play CD's don't ya think? - Tracksider 00:46:29 04/20/05 ( 0)
Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - audio.feel@caramail.com 04/12/05 19:33:34 04/12/05 ( 0)
Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - soulfood 19:17:03 04/12/05 ( 1)
- Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - more sense than money 03:04:05 04/13/05 ( 0)
Yes and No... - Todd Krieger 18:33:22 04/12/05 ( 0)
Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - Logan 17:53:40 04/12/05 ( 0)
Them blue LEDs have won me over....[nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 16:30:56 04/12/05 ( 1)
- Yeah-once you've gone blue there's no turnin back..nt - agattu 02:19:41 04/13/05 ( 0)
Yes, with each generation - Rod Clark 13:44:55 04/12/05 ( 0)
Short Answer: yes. Long answer... - Harmonia 11:47:57 04/12/05 ( 4)
- Excellent response and I might add... - AbeCollins 13:00:55 04/12/05 ( 2)
- Very good point. - Harmonia 21:53:34 04/12/05 ( 1)
- Don't know but... - JohnL 23:51:26 04/12/05 ( 0)
Great response, a pleasure to read. :) -nt - JohnnyLightOn 12:26:17 04/12/05 ( 0)
Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - jimmyjames 10:17:12 04/12/05 ( 0)
Power cords and suspension tweaks have gotten better. - Al Sekela 08:09:03 04/12/05 ( 0)
Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - audio.feel@caramail.com 06:40:30 04/12/05 ( 2)
- Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - frank 07:30:33 04/12/05 ( 1)
- Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - audio.feel@caramail.com 09:39:24 04/12/05 ( 0)
Re: Have CD players improved in the last 10 years? - Frank 07:58:35 04/11/05 ( 0)
Inexpensive ones have - Jack G 06:54:26 04/11/05 ( 0)
I think DAC's have gotten better, - jbmcb 06:20:27 04/11/05 ( 1)
- Re: I think DAC's have gotten better, - Marantzman 13:51:08 04/17/05 ( 0)
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