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I was somewhat surprised by the November issue of TAS which had a round up of digital amps, from NuForce, Rowland, Cary, Kharma etc.If I was to summarize all the reviews, they didn't think the digital (class D / T switching type amps) were quite there yet, mainly in the treble region. Many of them found the treble to be "funny". They used terms like compressed, dynamically constrained, colored, etc. Not that this is a new complaint against switching amps, but on some of the more sophisticated designs that I've heard, it hasn't really been much of an issue. The only amp they really liked was the Kharma (which I haven't heard.)
In their round table discussion, Krell's amp designer was particularly savage in his criticism of digital / switching amps in general (he points out their inability to generate a clean square wave as a sign of fundamental flaws in their capabilities.)
They even sort of went back on their previous positive NuForce review, saying that some people will love NuForce amps and some people will hate it, but they can't recommend it universally. Basically they don't like the sound "out of the box" of either Tripath or ICEPower modules.
No Bel Canto or PS Audio reviews in this issue, which I thought was a strange omission from a roundup of digital amps.
Overall an interesting wake up call given all the hype digitals have been receiving, but I wonder if they haven't gone a bit overboard in their criticisms.
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Topic - The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - sethk@survivormail.com 11:34:54 11/1/06 (60)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - dazzdax 08:24:27 11/6/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - pushpulltriode 12:03:48 11/4/06 (1)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - Passive Chappy 12:53:57 11/5/06 (0)
- " I feel safe asserting that class "D" technology has come of age even for demanding audiophiles" - shoe 11:31:28 11/4/06 (1)
- Re: " I feel safe asserting that class "D" technology has come of age even for demanding audiophiles" - morricab 07:30:12 11/7/06 (0)
- Anyone have access to a softcopy? - DevillEars 08:14:01 11/3/06 (0)
- They still have a long way to go.. - Audio Pharaoh 23:51:32 11/2/06 (4)
- "they will never approach the 'emotional content' of a good Tube or a good SS design" - mac 00:41:14 11/3/06 (3)
- Re: "they will never approach the 'emotional content' of a good Tube or a good SS design" - Audio Pharaoh 12:39:51 11/3/06 (2)
- "jumping on the band wagon" - mac    15:01:28 11/3/06 (1)
- Interesting read...but still - Audio Pharaoh 18:49:54 11/3/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - MasterSound 12:49:23 11/2/06 (0)
- Me neither - morricab 09:27:33 11/2/06 (0)
- I think the Spectron is pretty good - Quint 04:41:37 11/2/06 (2)
- I owned a Spectron Musician II and totally agree. - gme109 18:35:39 11/2/06 (0)
- I agree 100% - Pete Watt 09:03:48 11/2/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - PTC 20:14:28 11/1/06 (4)
- "Nuforce Ref 9.02 wasTAS Amplifier of the Year for 2005 " CIA D200 was given TAS Editors Choice Award in 2006. - gme109 07:17:52 11/3/06 (2)
- Re: "Nuforce Ref 9.02 wasTAS Amplifier of the Year for 2005 " CIA D200 was given TAS Editors Choice Award in 2006. - morricab 07:57:48 11/3/06 (1)
- Can these amps drive any speaker?. - SimonTJU 17:37:10 11/3/06 (0)
- Yeah, what's up with that? nt - Vic D 23:23:11 11/2/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - xxyyzz 18:58:15 11/1/06 (0)
- Digital amps are a threat to many traditional amp manufactures, & the magazines who collect advertising $'s from them. - gme109 17:02:52 11/1/06 (6)
- What an ignorant, clueless, defensive response... - mkuller 16:21:20 11/2/06 (4)
- I can now see why your response was so defensive, you once reviewed for TAS. - gme109 09:07:17 11/3/06 (0)
- coming from an ex-TAS reviewer - mac  20:03:38 11/2/06 (2)
- Cheers, sockpuppet...(nt) - mkuller 09:26:39 11/3/06 (1)
- Now that's much more what I'd expect from someone of such distinguished lineage as yourself. - mac    10:55:54 11/3/06 (0)
- That would be the paranoid response - E-Stat 18:04:31 11/1/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - AbeCollins 15:58:50 11/1/06 (21)
- NuForce vs. ? - zigster 17:46:19 11/1/06 (2)
- Re: NuForce vs. ? - AbeCollins 18:29:51 11/2/06 (1)
- Re: NuForce vs. ? - zigster 19:14:29 11/2/06 (0)
- "I found the NuForce Ref 9.02 to be significantly better than the ... UCD based amps I auditioned." - mac  17:28:34 11/1/06 (17)
- Re: "I found the NuForce Ref 9.02 to be significantly better than the ... UCD based amps I auditioned." - DaveT 08:03:52 11/3/06 (0)
- Re: "I found the NuForce Ref 9.02 to be significantly better than the ... UCD based amps I auditioned." - AbeCollins 18:33:54 11/2/06 (15)
- "I had the D100's for a while in my setup." - mac  19:47:00 11/2/06 (14)
- Re: "I had the D100's for a while in my setup." - AbeCollins 20:17:59 11/2/06 (13)
- poor little Abel... - mac    22:00:53 11/6/06 (12)
- Believe what you want. - AbeCollins 23:52:30 11/6/06 (11)
- "You're clueless." - mac  00:58:35 11/7/06 (10)
- Re: "You're clueless." - AbeCollins 09:12:30 11/7/06 (9)
- two lies, two smear campaigns and counting... - mac    10:38:15 11/7/06 (8)
- You're such a whiner Mike. Get a life. - AbeCollins 11:38:40 11/7/06 (7)
- Old news Abel (6 years to be exact). Your dirty deeds are occurring now in real-time. - mac     12:13:52 11/7/06 (6)
- Why was MikeCH banned from AA, only to reappear as "mac" ? - AbeCollins 16:22:54 11/7/06 (5)
- Hey Abel.... - mac  17:45:57 11/7/06 (4)
- Re: Hey Mike... - AbeCollins 18:12:00 11/7/06 (3)
- You will see, Abel. NT - MikeCh 20:16:48 11/7/06 (2)
- See what? Please be clear. NT - AbeCollins 16:25:20 11/20/06 (1)
- It's only been 18 days. - MikeCh 16:43:58 11/20/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - kenster 13:31:11 11/1/06 (4)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - Schweikert 18:15:50 11/3/06 (0)
- "the way the amps reproduced bass was quite impressive" - beppe61 04:17:27 11/2/06 (0)
- Was that the only room you visited at RMAF? - xxyyzz 18:50:45 11/1/06 (1)
- Re: Was that the only room you visited at RMAF? - kenster 19:30:25 11/1/06 (0)
- Deja vu all over again..... - doodlebug 12:00:53 11/1/06 (1)
- Speaking of deja vu..... - mkuller 12:30:25 11/1/06 (0)
- Re: The Absolute Sound (TAS) doesn't like digital amps much - Schweikert 11:48:15 11/1/06 (0)